According to the README file that comes in /var/log it says I should be able to install rsyslog to run alongside the fancy journal - "Syslog implementations such as syslog-ng or rsyslog may be installed side-by-side with the journal and will continue to function the way they always did." Yet when I try, using YaST2, I am getting the following ominous error message - "systemd-logger-228-29.1.x86_64 conflicts with namespace:otherproviders(syslog) provided by rsyslog-8.24.0-1.3.x86_64" My choices are to either deinstall systemd_logger-228-29.1.x86_64 (sounds like a bad idea to my uneducated eyes) or not to install rsyslog which conflicts with my intentions because that is exactly what I am trying to do, install it! So, if I blow away the systemd-logger will I also lose the ability to use the fancy journal logging ability? Or encounter some other nasty surprise later on? Thought I better ask before I do something dumb, as I was expecting rsyslog to install without a whimper... Marc.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org