I'm running 12.2 but haven't tried any previous versions. I have a Linksys-N router, and an Asus USB-N13 wireless adapter in a mini-ATX case with an Intel DH77DF MB. As long as I'm in the same room as the router all works fine. As soon as I install the box in any other room, I can't connect to the access point (router). My wife is running an HP laptop (Windows-7) and can go anywhere in the house and get 3-4 bars on her signal quality meter. Why can't I? Attached is my dmesg output when not in the same room as the router. While in the same room as the router: # iwconfig wlan0 wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"linksys" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432 GHz Access Point: 00:18:F8:FF:72:D5 Bit Rate=18 Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Retry long limit:7 RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality=68/70 Signal level=-42 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 # ifconfig wlan0 wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 10:BF:48:FB:C9:D1 inet addr:172.16.10.101 Bcast:172.16.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::12bf:48ff:fefb:c9d1/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:404 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:362 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:119068 (116.2 Kb) TX bytes:102049 (99.6 Kb) While out of the same room as the router: #iwconfig wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"linksys" Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=20 dBm Retry long limit:7 RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off #ifconfig wlan0 wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 10:BF:48:FB:C9:D1 inet addr:172.16.10.101 Bcast:172.16.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Any help appreciated. Regards Mark
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I'm running 12.2 but haven't tried any previous versions. I have a Linksys-N router, and an Asus USB-N13 wireless adapter in a mini-ATX case with an Intel DH77DF MB. As long as I'm in the same room as the router all works fine. As soon as I install the box in any other room, I can't connect to the access point (router).
Given the short range, I'd suspect a hardware problem in the Asus adapter. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I'm running 12.2 but haven't tried any previous versions. I have a Linksys-N router, and an Asus USB-N13 wireless adapter in a mini-ATX case with an Intel DH77DF MB. As long as I'm in the same room as the router all works fine. As soon as I install the box in any other room, I can't connect to the access point (router).
Given the short range, I'd suspect a hardware problem in the Asus adapter. Except that I bought 2 of them because we are moving our office out of
On 10/19/2012 07:45 AM, James Knott wrote: the room containing the router and into another. We both have our own Linux boxes. I got one for each. They both act the same. Regards Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Given the short range, I'd suspect a hardware problem in the Asus adapter. Except that I bought 2 of them because we are moving our office out of the room containing the router and into another. We both have our own Linux boxes. I got one for each. They both act the same.
The info you provided indicates a loss of signal. Software doesn't do that. I use WiFi all the time with my ThinkPad and it doesn't matter where I am in my condo. I have also used it in other locations, including one hotel where I couldn't connect with Windows! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I'm running 12.2 but haven't tried any previous versions. I have a Linksys-N router, and an Asus USB-N13 wireless adapter in a mini-ATX case with an Intel DH77DF MB. As long as I'm in the same room as the router all works fine. As soon as I install the box in any other room, I can't connect to the access point (router).
My wife is running an HP laptop (Windows-7) and can go anywhere in the house and get 3-4 bars on her signal quality meter. Why can't I? Attached is my dmesg output when not in the same room as the router.
The antenna in a laptop runs all the way around it. The antenna in your dongle is small, and is further shielded by the metal case of your PC. So it is seeing a much worse signal level than your wife's. The extra loss due to the wall (what is the wall made from, BTW?) and perhaps by unfortunate orientation of your PC might make the signal unusable Can your wife's laptop report dBm? See what levels she is getting in both places. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 10:10 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I'm running 12.2 but haven't tried any previous versions. I have a Linksys-N router, and an Asus USB-N13 wireless adapter in a mini-ATX case with an Intel DH77DF MB. As long as I'm in the same room as the router all works fine. As soon as I install the box in any other room, I can't connect to the access point (router).
My wife is running an HP laptop (Windows-7) and can go anywhere in the house and get 3-4 bars on her signal quality meter. Why can't I? Attached is my dmesg output when not in the same room as the router. The antenna in a laptop runs all the way around it. The antenna in your dongle is small, and is further shielded by the metal case of your PC. So it is seeing a much worse signal level than your wife's. The extra loss due to the wall (what is the wall made from, BTW?) and perhaps by unfortunate orientation of your PC might make the signal unusable
Can your wife's laptop report dBm? See what levels she is getting in both places.
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop. I've just now been reading this too. http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop.
I've just now been reading this too.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop.
I've just now been reading this too.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000? Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
They are multifunction devices which include a WiFi adapter for Ethernet mode. The Asus includes a repeater mode, but I don't think the D-Link does. In your case, you'd configure for the WiFi adapter mode and connect to your computer with an Ethernet cable. Also, these require less from the CPU than a USB device. Both of these can be USB or wall wart powered and can be placed wherever you can reach with a cable. The D-Link can do 802.11n, but the Asus is 802.11g. However, there is a later model Asus that also does N. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 01:47 PM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
They are multifunction devices which include a WiFi adapter for Ethernet mode. The Asus includes a repeater mode, but I don't think the D-Link does. In your case, you'd configure for the WiFi adapter mode and connect to your computer with an Ethernet cable. Also, these require less from the CPU than a USB device. Both of these can be USB or wall wart powered and can be placed wherever you can reach with a cable. The D-Link can do 802.11n, but the Asus is 802.11g. However, there is a later model Asus that also does N.
OK, thanks. I'll spend a few dollars in the hope this takes care of my problem. Regards Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop.
I've just now been reading this too.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
Mark
We've used the cheap Linksys routers from Wal Mart to connect to another Linksys router between houses. All of ours Linksys routers have been "updated" with the DD-WRT firmware. Gives loads more configuration options than the standard software they come with. -- “The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets.” — Will Rogers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 02:06 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop.
I've just now been reading this too.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
Mark
We've used the cheap Linksys routers from Wal Mart to connect to another Linksys router between houses. All of ours Linksys routers have been "updated" with the DD-WRT firmware. Gives loads more configuration options than the standard software they come with.
That's interesting. I saw info about DD-WRT on the WWW while investigating this problem. I said to myself then, if I had another LinkSys router I would try this. I don't have another lying around though. I don't remember mine being too cheap though. Seems like it was $40-60. It's been 2-3 years though. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 01:28 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:06 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop.
I've just now been reading this too.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
Mark
We've used the cheap Linksys routers from Wal Mart to connect to another Linksys router between houses. All of ours Linksys routers have been "updated" with the DD-WRT firmware. Gives loads more configuration options than the standard software they come with.
That's interesting. I saw info about DD-WRT on the WWW while investigating this problem. I said to myself then, if I had another LinkSys router I would try this. I don't have another lying around though. I don't remember mine being too cheap though. Seems like it was $40-60. It's been 2-3 years though.
Mark
All things are relative. Take a "cheap" Linksys router and turn it into a three or four hundred dollar router by upgrading the firmware. We cranked the power up to a quarter watt on one, connected it to a parabolic outdoor antenna and had a solid connection eight miles away. Not to shabby for fifty or so dollars. Do it to two of them with external parabolics and have a link over miles of terrain. Needs to be relatively line-of-sight. Hills and trees will kill the signal. -- “The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets.” — Will Rogers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 02:36 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 01:28 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:06 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior walls are just normal dry wall. I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop.
I've just now been reading this too.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
Mark
We've used the cheap Linksys routers from Wal Mart to connect to another Linksys router between houses. All of ours Linksys routers have been "updated" with the DD-WRT firmware. Gives loads more configuration options than the standard software they come with.
That's interesting. I saw info about DD-WRT on the WWW while investigating this problem. I said to myself then, if I had another LinkSys router I would try this. I don't have another lying around though. I don't remember mine being too cheap though. Seems like it was $40-60. It's been 2-3 years though.
Mark
All things are relative. Take a "cheap" Linksys router and turn it into a three or four hundred dollar router by upgrading the firmware.
We cranked the power up to a quarter watt on one, connected it to a parabolic outdoor antenna and had a solid connection eight miles away. Not to shabby for fifty or so dollars.
Do it to two of them with external parabolics and have a link over miles of terrain. Needs to be relatively line-of-sight. Hills and trees will kill the signal.
So are you saying I could just take my existing Linksys router, flash the firmware, then boost the power so my whole house was covered? Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 02:34 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:36 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 01:28 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:06 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote: > I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior > walls are just normal dry wall. > I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop. > > I've just now been reading this too. > > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO >
Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be placed where convenient for best signal
Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
Mark
We've used the cheap Linksys routers from Wal Mart to connect to another Linksys router between houses. All of ours Linksys routers have been "updated" with the DD-WRT firmware. Gives loads more configuration options than the standard software they come with.
That's interesting. I saw info about DD-WRT on the WWW while investigating this problem. I said to myself then, if I had another LinkSys router I would try this. I don't have another lying around though. I don't remember mine being too cheap though. Seems like it was $40-60. It's been 2-3 years though.
Mark
All things are relative. Take a "cheap" Linksys router and turn it into a three or four hundred dollar router by upgrading the firmware.
We cranked the power up to a quarter watt on one, connected it to a parabolic outdoor antenna and had a solid connection eight miles away. Not to shabby for fifty or so dollars.
Do it to two of them with external parabolics and have a link over miles of terrain. Needs to be relatively line-of-sight. Hills and trees will kill the signal.
So are you saying I could just take my existing Linksys router, flash the firmware, then boost the power so my whole house was covered?
Mark
House heck, half the neighborhood. *<]:oD If you crank the power up all the way though you need to provide a little colling fan for long term use. The transmitter finals will handle it just fine but it does generate some heat. -- “The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets.” — Will Rogers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/19/2012 03:44 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:34 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:36 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 01:28 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:06 PM, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 10/19/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote: > Mark Hounschell wrote: >> I didn't realize that about the laptop antenna. The interior >> walls are just normal dry wall. >> I'll have to find out about the actual dBm on her laptop. >> >> I've just now been reading this too. >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx#fbid=liKhosl6OWO >> > > Another possibility is to use Ethernet connected portable access > points, such as the Asus WL-330Ge or D-Link DAP-1350. These > devices can act as Ethernet connected WiFi adapters and can be > placed where convenient for best signal > Are these different than what I see called a "range extender"? Like the LinkSys RE1000?
Mark
We've used the cheap Linksys routers from Wal Mart to connect to another Linksys router between houses. All of ours Linksys routers have been "updated" with the DD-WRT firmware. Gives loads more configuration options than the standard software they come with.
That's interesting. I saw info about DD-WRT on the WWW while investigating this problem. I said to myself then, if I had another LinkSys router I would try this. I don't have another lying around though. I don't remember mine being too cheap though. Seems like it was $40-60. It's been 2-3 years though.
Mark
All things are relative. Take a "cheap" Linksys router and turn it into a three or four hundred dollar router by upgrading the firmware.
We cranked the power up to a quarter watt on one, connected it to a parabolic outdoor antenna and had a solid connection eight miles away. Not to shabby for fifty or so dollars.
Do it to two of them with external parabolics and have a link over miles of terrain. Needs to be relatively line-of-sight. Hills and trees will kill the signal.
So are you saying I could just take my existing Linksys router, flash the firmware, then boost the power so my whole house was covered?
Mark
House heck, half the neighborhood. *<]:oD If you crank the power up all the way though you need to provide a little colling fan for long term use. The transmitter finals will handle it just fine but it does generate some heat.
Thanks for this info. I'll go play now. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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