[opensuse] Re: Advantages of OpenSuse over (K)ubuntu
Hey guys, I've been an Ubuntu user for a long time now. Recently, I dicovered that for the most applications I use in Ubuntu, there are better ones available in the KDE environment, so I decided to move to KDE. Now, I'm wondering what distrubiton is more suitable for KDE. Since you guys are using OpenSuse for a long time, can you give me reasons why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ? regards Samir --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi :) El Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2006 17:45, Samir van de Sand escribió:
Hey guys,
I've been an Ubuntu user for a long time now. Recently, I dicovered that for the most applications I use in Ubuntu, there are better ones available in the KDE environment, so I decided to move to KDE. Now, I'm wondering what distrubiton is more suitable for KDE. Since you guys are using OpenSuse for a long time, can you give me reasons why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
¿YaST? :) Just MHO Rafa -- 50% of all statistics are inaccurate. OpenWengo: rgriman --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It just another distro On 10/19/06, Rafa Grimán <rafagriman@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi :)
El Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2006 17:45, Samir van de Sand escribió:
Hey guys,
I've been an Ubuntu user for a long time now. Recently, I dicovered that for the most applications I use in Ubuntu, there are better ones available in the KDE environment, so I decided to move to KDE. Now, I'm wondering what distrubiton is more suitable for KDE. Since you guys are using OpenSuse for a long time, can you give me reasons why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
¿YaST? :)
Just MHO
Rafa
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Rafa Grimán a écrit :
why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
AFAIK, ubuntu is just an other debian clone. Debian have advantages, but also drawbacks. To be _very_ short, Debian is all free (as in GPL), totally non commercial, very low pace (new distro any several years) and hav an online tool (apt) very powerfull. But the ease of use is not the strong point. I find SUSE much more friendly jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2006 18:35, jdd escribió:
Rafa Grimán a écrit :
why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
AFAIK, ubuntu is just an other debian clone. Debian have advantages, but also drawbacks. To be _very_ short, Debian is all free (as in GPL), totally non commercial, very low pace (new distro any several years) and hav an online tool (apt) very powerfull. But the ease of use is not the strong point.
I find SUSE much more friendly
Debian/Ubuntu people usually argue the power of apt and the freedom as advantages to choose their distro. Well, it's true apt is powerful but apt may also be used in SUSE (apt-rpm) and SUSE also offers the user more choices (YaST, Smart,...) while Debian-based distros AFAIK only offer apt. So I don't see why someone would choose Debian just because of apt. Many also argue Debian has a big central repository with lots of packages (I'm pretty sure they aren't using even 10% of the packages) but probably they haven't taken a look at repos.opensuse.org. Ubuntu also depends on a company (Canonical), so that's not different from SUSE. About the freedom of Debian, well, I don't have to comment it, I think everyone understands what "OSS" means in "SUSE 10.1 OSS". At the same time, we have YaST while Debian/Ubuntu doesn't. And that's really a strong advantage. So long live SUSE! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
they aren't using even 10% of the packages) but probably they haven't taken a look at repos.opensuse.org.
I don't understand how to use repos.opensuse.org Is there a way to add all directories to smart or yast ?? -- Marcel Mourguiart --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2006 21:21, Marcel Mourguiart escribió:
they aren't using even 10% of the packages) but probably they haven't taken a look at repos.opensuse.org.
I don't understand how to use repos.opensuse.org
Is there a way to add all directories to smart or yast ??
No, AFAIK. But you have tons of packages there, so you don't have to search through the whole Internet in most cases. It would be cool if someone made a tool to add all those directories to YaST/smart anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ok, thanks for the various answers. So what I see now as main advantages of OpenSuse is YaST and SmartRPM, which incorporates with several package management systems. Anyway, for developing java applications I really need eclipse. Is eclipse somehow related to GTK or Gnome or does it have any dependencies on it ? I just need to make sure that it is integrated well into KDE. On 10/19/06, Víctor Fernández <vfernandez@polinux.upv.es> wrote:
El Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2006 21:21, Marcel Mourguiart escribió:
they aren't using even 10% of the packages) but probably they haven't taken a look at repos.opensuse.org.
I don't understand how to use repos.opensuse.org
Is there a way to add all directories to smart or yast ??
No, AFAIK. But you have tons of packages there, so you don't have to search through the whole Internet in most cases.
It would be cool if someone made a tool to add all those directories to YaST/smart anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Samir van de Sand <samir.vds@googlemail.com> [10-20-06 11:05]:
Ok, thanks for the various answers. So what I see now as main advantages of OpenSuse is YaST and SmartRPM, which incorporates with several package management systems.
Anyway, for developing java applications I really need eclipse. Is eclipse somehow related to GTK or Gnome or does it have any dependencies on it ? I just need to make sure that it is integrated well into KDE.
On 10/19/06, Víctor Fernández <vfernandez@polinux.upv.es> wrote:
El Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2006 21:21, Marcel Mourguiart escribió:
they aren't using even 10% of the packages) but probably they haven't taken a look at repos.opensuse.org.
I don't understand how to use repos.opensuse.org
Is there a way to add all directories to smart or yast ??
No, AFAIK. But you have tons of packages there, so you don't have to search through the whole Internet in most cases.
It would be cool if someone made a tool to add all those directories to YaST/smart anyway.
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you guys are using OpenSuse for a long time, can you give me reasons why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
I tried Kubuntu last year and in my opinion it's rather confusing. OpenSuse is normally more integrated IMO. But YMMV. -- Med venlig hilsen Kaare Rasmussen, Jasonic Jasonic Telefon: +45 3816 2582 Nordre Fasanvej 12 2000 Frederiksberg Email: kaare@jasonic.dk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/10/19 17:45 (GMT+0200) Samir van de Sand apparently typed:
I've been an Ubuntu user for a long time now. Recently, I dicovered that for the most applications I use in Ubuntu, there are better ones available in the KDE environment, so I decided to move to KDE. Now, I'm wondering what distrubiton is more suitable for KDE. Since you guys are using OpenSuse for a long time, can you give me reasons why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
I've spent an unreal amount of the past 2+ weeks installing, upgrading & using Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu/Xubuntu. On the KDE desktop, there's very little difference between SUSE and Kubuntu, other than YaST. That's a big difference. I find Adept inept, and Synaptic little better. Apt-get is nice, but only when it works, which is woefully less than 100% of the time. Under the covers Ubuntu is Debian. I've yet to find anything Debian does differently from SUSE that I like better the Debian way. e.g., they cram virtually everything, including X, into runlevel 2, making 3 and 5 totally equivalent to 2. Sudo for every system task you need to do in Ubuntu is a monumental PITA. Its near single purpose CDs can be a big headache. The CD they'll mail you for free is wholly unsuited to installation into a multiboot environment. Its help forums seem to be populated almost entirely by the clueless n00b types. Far more questions get asked than seem to get useful answers. I can't go so far as to say Ubuntu is bad, but the only time I'll recommend Ubuntu over SUSE is for a child's educational purposes -> Edubuntu. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Samir van de Sand wrote:
Hey guys,
I've been an Ubuntu user for a long time now. Recently, I dicovered that for the most applications I use in Ubuntu, there are better ones available in the KDE environment, so I decided to move to KDE. Now, I'm wondering what distrubiton is more suitable for KDE. Since you guys are using OpenSuse for a long time, can you give me reasons why OpenSuse is better than Kubuntu ?
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