[opensuse] Failed upgrade to 15.0
Hi, I failed to upgrade a test partition with Leap 42.3 to 15.0, using the DVD method. First it aborted because it found reiserfs partitions in fstab, even though they were references to quite old openSUSE installs on other partitions. Like 13.1. Obviously I can not change them. This is absurd. I had to comment them out. :-/ I rebooted and tried again, and after it started probing the target partition, yast crashed. I got logs and photos, will write a bugzilla later, time permitting. This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/ I don't even know why. <http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE Malachite, Leap 42.3 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/11/2018 06:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/
I don't even know why.
<http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112>
Thanks for being the "canary in the coal-mine" Carlos. Drop a link when you get the bug written. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-06-11 19:56, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/11/2018 06:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/
I don't even know why.
<http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112>
Thanks for being the "canary in the coal-mine" Carlos. Drop a link when you get the bug written.
Sure. <https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096960> I needed to upgrade this system to 15.0 fast, so I did not wait and used zypper dup instead, which worked uneventfully, this time. Yes, I have another bug reported against zypper dup upgrade problem that attacks randomly. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.0 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-06-11 21:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 19:56, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/11/2018 06:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/
I don't even know why.
<http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112>
Thanks for being the "canary in the coal-mine" Carlos. Drop a link when you get the bug written.
Sure.
Well, it has been solved as duplicate of bug 1094963, which although solved means that it is impossible to upgrade to 15.0 (or install fresh and import partitions) on machines that have encrypted partitions. Which means all of my machines. Good grief :-/ When I tested the 15.0 Betas the import feature was not ready, so I could not test it. It was added very late in the process. And it is buggy. Another bug is that it may select all partitions for formatting, even /home, which of course destroys all your data. :-/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.0 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-06-12 22:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 21:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 19:56, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/11/2018 06:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/
I don't even know why.
<http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112>
Thanks for being the "canary in the coal-mine" Carlos. Drop a link when you get the bug written.
Sure.
Well, it has been solved as duplicate of bug 1094963, which although solved means that it is impossible to upgrade to 15.0 (or install fresh and import partitions) on machines that have encrypted partitions. Which means all of my machines. Good grief :-/
When I tested the 15.0 Betas the import feature was not ready, so I could not test it. It was added very late in the process. And it is buggy.
Another bug is that it may select all partitions for formatting, even /home, which of course destroys all your data.
:-/
Well, I got information on private mail that since L42.3 YaST can update itself while the DVD is loading, so that these type of bugs have less impact and do not require reissuing the installation ISO. <https://github.com/yast/yast-installation/blob/master/doc/SELF_UPDATE.md> «Starting on version 3.1.175, yast2-installation is able to update itself during system installation. This feature will help to solve problems with the installation even after the media has been released. Check FATE#319716 for a more in-depth rationale.» (that Fate is private, so I can not read it. Needs login I don't have). The doc link says where SLE gets the updated version, but not where openSUSE gets it, so that I can not find out when there is a new version available. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.0 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-06-13 09:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Well, I got information on private mail that since L42.3 YaST can update itself while the DVD is loading, so that these type of bugs have less impact and do not require reissuing the installation ISO.
<https://github.com/yast/yast-installation/blob/master/doc/SELF_UPDATE.md>
«Starting on version 3.1.175, yast2-installation is able to update itself during system installation. This feature will help to solve problems with the installation even after the media has been released. Check FATE#319716 for a more in-depth rationale.»
(that Fate is private, so I can not read it. Needs login I don't have).
The doc link says where SLE gets the updated version, but not where openSUSE gets it, so that I can not find out when there is a new version available.
I got new info on the bugzilla: this auto update feature is not available for openSUSE :-( <http://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096960#c10> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.0 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 14:01:04 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2018-06-13 09:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Well, I got information on private mail that since L42.3 YaST can update itself while the DVD is loading, so that these type of bugs have less impact and do not require reissuing the installation ISO.
<https://github.com/yast/yast-installation/blob/master/doc/SELF_UPDATE.md>
«Starting on version 3.1.175, yast2-installation is able to update itself during system installation. This feature will help to solve problems with the installation even after the media has been released. Check FATE#319716 for a more in-depth rationale.»
(that Fate is private, so I can not read it. Needs login I don't have).
The doc link says where SLE gets the updated version, but not where openSUSE gets it, so that I can not find out when there is a new version available.
I got new info on the bugzilla: this auto update feature is not available for openSUSE :-(
Sorry Carlos, I'm not clear. I too have some encrypted filesystems for data but not the main file system. Can I upgrade my 42.3 to 15 or not? If so do I need to do something special? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-06-13 22:00, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 14:01:04 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
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Sorry Carlos, I'm not clear. I too have some encrypted filesystems for data but not the main file system. Can I upgrade my 42.3 to 15 or not?
Not with the DVD. You can with "zypper dup", or commenting out all encrypted filesystem entries in fstab, and perhaps in /etc/crypttab. Possibly, after the solution to the bugzilla gets into the servers, using the netinstall media. I'm not fully sure of this. I may, time permitting, test the netinstall image on my laptop and report back, but not soon. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.0 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/06/18 17:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-12 22:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 21:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 19:56, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/11/2018 06:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/
I don't even know why.
<http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112> Thanks for being the "canary in the coal-mine" Carlos. Drop a link when you get the bug written. Sure.
<https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096960> Well, it has been solved as duplicate of bug 1094963, which although solved means that it is impossible to upgrade to 15.0 (or install fresh and import partitions) on machines that have encrypted partitions. Which means all of my machines. Good grief :-/
When I tested the 15.0 Betas the import feature was not ready, so I could not test it. It was added very late in the process. And it is buggy.
Another bug is that it may select all partitions for formatting, even /home, which of course destroys all your data.
:-/ Well, I got information on private mail that since L42.3 YaST can update itself while the DVD is loading, so that these type of bugs have less impact and do not require reissuing the installation ISO.
<https://github.com/yast/yast-installation/blob/master/doc/SELF_UPDATE.md>
«Starting on version 3.1.175, yast2-installation is able to update itself during system installation. This feature will help to solve problems with the installation even after the media has been released. Check FATE#319716 for a more in-depth rationale.»
WOW! That would be a most fantastic trick to perform indeed when there is no connection to the internet -- ie, when the Cat 6 cable from the router is not plugged into the laptop and there is no wi-fi connection :-).
(that Fate is private, so I can not read it. Needs login I don't have).
The doc link says where SLE gets the updated version, but not where openSUSE gets it, so that I can not find out when there is a new version available.
BC -- "..The times have been That, when the brains were out, the man would die,.." "Macbeth", Shakespeare -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-06-15 06:59, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 13/06/18 17:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-12 22:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 21:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-11 19:56, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/11/2018 06:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is the first failed DVD upgrade I get since 1998 :-/
I don't even know why.
<http://paste.opensuse.org/7824651> <http://paste.opensuse.org/84936112> Thanks for being the "canary in the coal-mine" Carlos. Drop a link when you get the bug written. Sure.
<https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096960> Well, it has been solved as duplicate of bug 1094963, which although solved means that it is impossible to upgrade to 15.0 (or install fresh and import partitions) on machines that have encrypted partitions. Which means all of my machines. Good grief :-/
When I tested the 15.0 Betas the import feature was not ready, so I could not test it. It was added very late in the process. And it is buggy.
Another bug is that it may select all partitions for formatting, even /home, which of course destroys all your data.
:-/ Well, I got information on private mail that since L42.3 YaST can update itself while the DVD is loading, so that these type of bugs have less impact and do not require reissuing the installation ISO.
<https://github.com/yast/yast-installation/blob/master/doc/SELF_UPDATE.md>
«Starting on version 3.1.175, yast2-installation is able to update itself during system installation. This feature will help to solve problems with the installation even after the media has been released. Check FATE#319716 for a more in-depth rationale.»
WOW! That would be a most fantastic trick to perform indeed when there is no connection to the internet -- ie, when the Cat 6 cable from the router is not plugged into the laptop and there is no wi-fi connection :-).
Well, obviously :-) But remember that during the Beta phase, installing XFCE was impossible without fast Internet, because it was not included on the DVD. Anyway, the autoupdate feature is not available on openSUSE. YaST is capable, but intentionally there is no server with updated data for this particular feature. I also don't have confirmation if the Netinstall image, which has to download yast, gets an updated yast or not. One rationale for "not" is that only the "not updated" got the full testing of betas. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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