Re: [opensuse] Scheduled Cron Jobs in YaST
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-----Original Message----- From: Dirk Gently Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:35 PM To: Paul Groves Subject: Re: [opensuse] Scheduled Cron Jobs in YaST Paul Groves wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone know if it is possible to create and edit Cron Jobs in YaST instead of modifying the files directly? I cannot find anything in the OpenSUSE manuals.
Any help is appreciated.
What's the advantage to that? If you don't understand cron jobs, then you shouldn't be messing with them anyway, regardless of what interface you work through. The current way is the best way, because those who don't know what they're looking at will shy away from messing with crontab and related files. Dumbing-down crucial administration tasks is NOT a win -- because it makes it easy for the under-informed to fool themselves into thinking they know what they're doing. It's purely for ease of administration as I am the only one at my place of work who understands crontab. If there was a nice YaST plugin that just showed when the tasks run and what they run then my colleagues can troubleshoot in my absence. I was thinking of something like FreeNAS has in it's web interface, you click a'dd cronjob', click checkboxes and type in time(s) for when you want it to run then type a command. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 8/22/2013 12:36 PM, Paul Groves wrote:
What's the advantage to that?
If you don't understand cron jobs, then you shouldn't be messing with them anyway, regardless of what interface you work through.
Paul: your quoting style makes it hard to keep your threads straight. The problem appears to be here-----> X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail Please consider switching to a real email client. Dirk: Just because someone uses a different tool than you does not mean they "don't understand cron jobs". Pretty insulting tone if you ask me. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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John: I apologise, but if anyone knows a better email client that I can also use in OpenSUSE for hotmail I would love to know but I have tried using Thunderbird and Kmail and I lost emails from my storage folders with both programs. They seem to support other providers fine but not Hotmail for some reason. Unless anyone knows how to configure Kmail or Thinderbird correctly for hotmail? (I have stumbled upon a nice firefox add-on called x-notifier but you still have to use the awful hotmail web interface unfortunately). Dirk: If you must know, none of my colleagues have any experience in systems other than Windows which is why none of them can understand crontab. I'm sure they will learn it eventually but that is where it stands at the moment. I'm sure you would agree that it is never a good idea for only one admin on site to know how to use a server which is why I am trying to simplify it in this way, then my colleagues can understand it more easily before going 'straight to the deep end' so to speak. Anyway lets not go too far off topic.. Is there any way of administering cronjobs in YaST or is the only way via editing the crontab file? lol spell checker on Windows corrects cronjobs to corncobs :D -----Original Message----- From: John Andersen Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Scheduled Cron Jobs in YaST On 8/22/2013 12:36 PM, Paul Groves wrote:
What's the advantage to that?
If you don't understand cron jobs, then you shouldn't be messing with them anyway, regardless of what interface you work through.
Paul: your quoting style makes it hard to keep your threads straight. The problem appears to be here-----> X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail Please consider switching to a real email client. Dirk: Just because someone uses a different tool than you does not mean they "don't understand cron jobs". Pretty insulting tone if you ask me. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-08-22 at 21:10 +0100, Paul Groves wrote:
John: I apologise, but if anyone knows a better email client that I can also use in OpenSUSE for hotmail I would love to know but I have tried using
Change provider. Hotmail sucks. :-| Now it doesn't work well with thunderbird or not at all. What will they do next? Can you really trust them?
Dirk: If you must know, none of my colleagues have any experience in systems other than Windows which is why none of them can understand crontab.
There is not much to understand. Just edit the file via "crontab -e". In my files, the first line is: # min hour day Month week_day 0=7=sunday. which suffices to remind me of the meaning of fields. Any editor will do, doesn't need to be "vi". - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIX8owACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WNWQCeNIFWfKf/5rxgZgIsyRYLIOTS yPsAni6MND4y2HY+1kWgrL9atKYroEFM =rgaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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