I had no end of trouble getting a sync with my Treo 600 under SuSE 9.2. I finally got an answer on how to get it working on the list, but then I discovered that it would only work one time after every reboot. So I gave up and tried Gentoo. After applying the same hint there as I used in SuSE -- a udev rule that turned out to have come from the Gentoo forums anyway -- it worked without a hitch. But there are things about Gentoo that make me a little nervous. Probably the biggest is that I want to run the same thing on my servers as my desktop, and Gentoo on servers seems... painful. Anyway. (Rant for another list, I suppose.) So I dutifully try the new 9.3 LiveCD, and, lo and behold, my Treo sync's! So I go through the hassle of installing 9.3 over Gentoo, and get all the patches applied, and all the recent supplements updated. I get all of my environment just about the way I like, and then I try to sync. I use Jpilot. I'm just doing a straight backup. And what do I get for all of this trouble? That's right: a hard lock up. Part-way through, it just locks up the machine. No ctrl-alt-delete. No ssh. So I think, hey, maybe it's a fluke, and just try it again. Same thing. (And, no, not on the same Palm database.) I've had more trouble getting a Palm device to sync with Linux over the years than anything else. And don't even get me started with how bad all of the programs to sync it with are. I really just want to sync with Evolution, but I guess putting memos in Evolution is the equivalent of brain surgery or something. After about 8 years of using Linux on "the desktop," I think I'm just about over it. I've beat my brains against the wall too hard, too many times. I've lost basically the whole weekend to this reinstall. (And to go back to Gentoo will take a week.) I don't think I'm asking for anything difficult here, folks. I just want what I've been able to have on Windows since my first Palm Pilot Pro 10 friggin' years ago: flawless sync'ing with a PIM. I know, I know: "code it yourself." Yeesh, dk
So I dutifully try the new 9.3 LiveCD, and, lo and behold, my Treo sync's! So I go through the hassle of installing 9.3 over Gentoo, and get all the patches applied, and all the recent supplements updated. I get all of my environment just about the way I like, and then I try to sync. I use Jpilot. I'm just doing a straight backup. And what do I get for all of this trouble? That's right: a hard lock up. Part-way through, it just locks up the machine. No ctrl-alt-delete. No ssh. Before you get too exasperated, try using the command line software from a virtual terminal (for instance ctrl-alt-f1).
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:54:07 -0500
David Krider
Jerry Feldman wrote:
Before you get too exasperated, try using the command line software
To backup, pilot-xfer -p /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 -b [dir]
If the first command locks up the terminal, then alt-f2 should get you into the second vt.
If you are successful, then possibly there is a problem with X, KDE, or jpilot.
GOOD idea. Really good. I wish I'd thought of it, and thank you! I tried it, and it worked. I tried it again, and in the middle of the operation, I switched back to vt7. Just as soon as X tried to come up, I got another hard lock. So, you hit the nail on the head. Being a "Gnome guy," I guess problem lies somewhere with Gnome (since I'm running gdm) or xorg. OTOH, that still leaves me screwed, basically. I've applied all the updates. I don't know what else to try in order to fix this. Thanks again, dk
On Sunday 24 April 2005 7:35 pm, David Krider wrote:
Jerry Feldman wrote:
Before you get too exasperated, try using the command line software
To backup, pilot-xfer -p /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 -b [dir]
GOOD idea. Really good. I wish I'd thought of it, and thank you!
I tried it, and it worked. I tried it again, and in the middle of the operation, I switched back to vt7. Just as soon as X tried to come up, I got another hard lock. So, you hit the nail on the head. Being a "Gnome guy," I guess problem lies somewhere with Gnome (since I'm running gdm) or xorg.
OTOH, that still leaves me screwed, basically. I've applied all the updates. I don't know what else to try in order to fix this. In the previous post, I mentioned that you use a virtual terminal. The next experiment is to use pilot-xfer from a terminal window, such as xterm or Gnome Terminal to see if it lock up X or GNOME. (xterm may be better since it is an X client not a GNOME client. It may appear that you have a problem with GNOME or X.
I would suggest switching to KDM, but still use GNOME as your Window
manager. If you do not lock up under KDM, we've identified the culprit as
GDM. What I am trying to do is to find out what component is the cause of
the failure. Once you do that you can submit a problem report to SuSE. From
my standpoint, it appears to be some interlock between udev and GDM.
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