[opensuse] Flash for Firefox - Installed rpm from adobe, links are correct, restarted - what's the trick?
All, I have a NOAA weather site that continues to use flash for radar loops, As we are under a convective SIGMET, I would like to look at the radar loop. The site is: https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=shv&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes I've installed: flash-player-npapi-25.0.0.127-release.x86_64.rpm and the links in /usr/lib64/browser-plugins is correct: libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so I've restarted the browser, but still flash does not appear as a plugin in about:plugins and the site still complains that a Plugin is Required. Is the problem me?, is it NOAA?, is it flash? What's the trick? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [03-24-17 18:12]:
All,
I have a NOAA weather site that continues to use flash for radar loops, As we are under a convective SIGMET, I would like to look at the radar loop. The site is:
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=shv&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
I've installed:
flash-player-npapi-25.0.0.127-release.x86_64.rpm
and the links in /usr/lib64/browser-plugins is correct:
libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
I've restarted the browser, but still flash does not appear as a plugin in about:plugins and the site still complains that a Plugin is Required.
Is the problem me?, is it NOAA?, is it flash? What's the trick?
Tw 20170322 and firefox 52.0.1 x86_64 flash-player-25.0.0 /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so plays for me, but... as of firefox 52.x npapi is no longer supported. announced today and advised several days ago. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:58:53 -0400 Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [03-24-17 18:12]:
All,
I have a NOAA weather site that continues to use flash for radar loops, As we are under a convective SIGMET, I would like to look at the radar loop. The site is:
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=shv&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
I've installed:
flash-player-npapi-25.0.0.127-release.x86_64.rpm
and the links in /usr/lib64/browser-plugins is correct:
libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
I've restarted the browser, but still flash does not appear as a plugin in about:plugins and the site still complains that a Plugin is Required.
Is the problem me?, is it NOAA?, is it flash? What's the trick?
Tw 20170322 and firefox 52.0.1 x86_64 flash-player-25.0.0 /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so
plays for me, but... as of firefox 52.x npapi is no longer supported. announced today and advised several days ago.
But specifically Flash is still supported according to what I read. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/08/firefox_52/ Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/24/2017 05:06 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
But specifically Flash is still supported according to what I read.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/08/firefox_52/
Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Even Google, who as been bad mouthing flash for three years has finally deprecated it and won't use it any more. However, other Google properties (Nest for one) still insist on it. The good side of flash: You can uninstall it or turn it off. Try that with HTML5. There are still no real controls for that. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Fri, 24 Mar 2017, John Andersen wrote:
The good side of flash: You can uninstall it or turn it off.
Or dis-/enable it with a prefbar checkbox, or set it to "click-to-play" (works additionally too) etc.
Try that with HTML5. There are still no real controls for that.
https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix Works.Via disabling scripts, XH-requests, plugins, and whatnot. You can find it too via the usual mozilla addon stuff. And you won't need most other stuff (like (most of) NoScript etc.). After a little getting used to it, it's actually easier to use than e.g. NoScript or depending on extensive filter-lists of AdBlock. I also have a not so long DNS-blacklist for my dnsmasq, so e.g. $ host facebook.com ; host fb.com facebook.com has address 127.0.1.1 fb.com has address 127.0.1.1 And quite a bit more, the rest of fb and doubleclick etc. pp. But it has accumulated some overzealous cruft (now that I use uMatrix), but still, it's just 124 entries of the most notorious stuff. HTH, -dnh -- "You do not beg the sun for mercy." -- Maud'dib's Travail from The Stilgar Commentary -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-25 10:19, David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017, John Andersen wrote:
The good side of flash: You can uninstall it or turn it off.
Or dis-/enable it with a prefbar checkbox, or set it to "click-to-play" (works additionally too) etc.
I use "Flashblock" since years. Maybe I could use the above trick instead.
I also have a not so long DNS-blacklist for my dnsmasq, so e.g.
$ host facebook.com ; host fb.com facebook.com has address 127.0.1.1 fb.com has address 127.0.1.1
Interesting :-)
And quite a bit more, the rest of fb and doubleclick etc. pp. But it has accumulated some overzealous cruft (now that I use uMatrix), but still, it's just 124 entries of the most notorious stuff.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 01:06, Dave Howorth wrote:
Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Because sites use it. Ask them.
Well, no. I don't have flash installed, so I don't care one way or all the others. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-25 20:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 01:06, Dave Howorth wrote:
Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Because sites use it. Ask them.
Well, no. I don't have flash installed, so I don't care one way or all the others. :)
Well, then you are lucky. I absolutely need to use several sites that use Flash. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:12:21 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 20:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 01:06, Dave Howorth wrote:
Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Because sites use it. Ask them.
Well, no. I don't have flash installed, so I don't care one way or all the others. :)
Well, then you are lucky. I absolutely need to use several sites that use Flash.
So you ask them! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-25 21:17, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:12:21 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 20:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 01:06, Dave Howorth wrote:
Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Because sites use it. Ask them.
Well, no. I don't have flash installed, so I don't care one way or all the others. :)
Well, then you are lucky. I absolutely need to use several sites that use Flash.
So you ask them!
Most certainly not. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:27:20 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 21:17, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:12:21 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 20:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 01:06, Dave Howorth wrote:
Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Because sites use it. Ask them.
Well, no. I don't have flash installed, so I don't care one way or all the others. :)
Well, then you are lucky. I absolutely need to use several sites that use Flash.
So you ask them!
Most certainly not.
So your suggestion that I do was hypocrital at best. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-25 22:16, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:27:20 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 21:17, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:12:21 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 20:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2017-03-25 01:06, Dave Howorth wrote: > Having said that, why is anybody still using Flash?
Because sites use it. Ask them.
Well, no. I don't have flash installed, so I don't care one way or all the others. :)
Well, then you are lucky. I absolutely need to use several sites that use Flash.
So you ask them!
Most certainly not.
So your suggestion that I do was hypocrital at best.
No, I did not ask. It was you who asked "why is anybody still using Flash?" and I answered. I'm not interested in asking the sites, I more or less know the answer, and they will not answer to me. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 25/03/17 05:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
So you ask them! Most certainly not. So your suggestion that I do was hypocrital at best.
No, I did not ask. It was you who asked "why is anybody still using Flash?" and I answered. I'm not interested in asking the sites, I more or less know the answer, and they will not answer to me.
BTDT and Carlos is correct. They ignore you. Some places, it seems, the use of flash is too deeply involved in their business process. Carlos, as well as my clients, are an example of that on the receiving end because its like that for some producers. While the change to HTLM5 is easy for the consumers because of the way browsers have been developed, it seems it is not so easy for content providers. Then there's archival material. I'm sure that Youtube has great tools for production & conversion, and I'm sure that converting from the format produced by phonecams and consumer grade DSLR to HTML5 is easy for them and they have to deal with such volume as to make it worth while. As for <strike>holdouts</strike> places like Brighttalk and CNet, who knows. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-26 15:11, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 25/03/17 05:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
So you ask them! Most certainly not. So your suggestion that I do was hypocrital at best.
No, I did not ask. It was you who asked "why is anybody still using Flash?" and I answered. I'm not interested in asking the sites, I more or less know the answer, and they will not answer to me.
BTDT and Carlos is correct. They ignore you.
Some places, it seems, the use of flash is too deeply involved in their business process. Carlos, as well as my clients, are an example of that on the receiving end because its like that for some producers.
While the change to HTLM5 is easy for the consumers because of the way browsers have been developed, it seems it is not so easy for content providers.
Then there's archival material.
I'm sure that Youtube has great tools for production & conversion, and I'm sure that converting from the format produced by phonecams and consumer grade DSLR to HTML5 is easy for them and they have to deal with such volume as to make it worth while. As for <strike>holdouts</strike> places like Brighttalk and CNet, who knows.
Indeed. For instance, one water provider (you know, the water that arrive via pipes to the houses) that I need to use has a web page that is made entirely with Flash (at least, a year ago). So, if I want to see the receipts/invoices, I have to use flash and I have absolutely no choice, except migrate the house to another council far away. And houses in Spain, made of armoured concrete can not be migrated like wooden houses in the USA. Then I see banks I have to deal with also using Flash. Most often it is cosmetics, but on one it was the login. So what, migrate accounts? Well, that's not often viable. I would rather have to use Windows instead, or Android. I can't be that intransigent on Flash. I have in the past tried to reason with banks regarding some computer issue. It is impossible. These are very above decisions. So I will not argue with them over flash. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Hello, On Fri, 24 Mar 2017, David C. Rankin wrote:
I have a NOAA weather site that continues to use flash for radar loops, As we are under a convective SIGMET, I would like to look at the radar loop. The site is:
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=shv&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
I've installed:
flash-player-npapi-25.0.0.127-release.x86_64.rpm
Works here with seamonkey/flash-player-25.0.0.127-2.127.1.x86_64 and under Gentoo with Firefox-45.7.0 with www-plugins/adobe-flash-25.0.0.127 You don't even need JS. Have you accidentally disabled it? -dnh --
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On 03/24/2017 07:15 PM, David Haller wrote:
Works here with seamonkey/flash-player-25.0.0.127-2.127.1.x86_64 and under Gentoo with Firefox-45.7.0 with www-plugins/adobe-flash-25.0.0.127
You don't even need JS. Have you accidentally disabled it?
-dnh
Thanks to all for the feedback, It must be something within my config (about:config) that is preventing the plugin from working. The bizarre thing is with flash-plugin installed, it doesn't even show in the addons->plugins list. This is with firefox 48esr, and the config/security tweaks from: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Tweaks https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Privacy one of those seemingly unrelated config tweaks is most likely impeding the plugin. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, /me playing bullshit-bingo in this mail ... On Fri, 24 Mar 2017, David C. Rankin wrote:
Works here with seamonkey/flash-player-25.0.0.127-2.127.1.x86_64 and under Gentoo with Firefox-45.7.0 with www-plugins/adobe-flash-25.0.0.127
You don't even need JS. Have you accidentally disabled it? [..] It must be something within my config (about:config) that is preventing the
On 03/24/2017 07:15 PM, David Haller wrote: plugin from working. The bizarre thing is with flash-plugin installed, it doesn't even show in the addons->plugins list.
This is with firefox 48esr, and the config/security tweaks from:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Tweaks https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Privacy
Can't you pin it down a bit from that stuff? That's rather a lot. And BTW, while I'm at it, what do you think happens if you set privacy.trackingprotection.enabled to "true"? *BUUULLLLSHHIIIIT* Exactly: you are _explicitly_ sending _even more info_. And nobody's bound to honor that flag. So, one of the first things I do is to _DISABLE_ that "pseudo" protection. Instead I use uMatrix (a bit more complex but better that uBlock, same author IIRC). And and a blacklist the notorious trackers (doubleclick, farcebork etc. pp.) via dnsmasq. However, they got that right: "Disable Safe Browsing service Safe Browsing offers phishing protection and malware checks," *BUUULLLLSHHIIIIT* "however it may send user information (e.g. URL, file hashes, etc.) to third parties like Google." No shit, really?!?! *feigning being flabbergasted* Wait, what "it might"??? NO FUCKING WAY! IT MUST SEND THAT STUFF to work! So, again: *BUUULLLLSHHIIIIT* Three strikes, those wiki-pages are *OUUUTTT*! So, same as above, and they even say it: using that "Safe Browsing" is bending over for the "soap" and invite Mozilla/Google to ream^Wtrack you real good. I've no idea what Mozilla does with it. But Google? It's Google! I'd be verrrrra surprised if they didn't use and monetarize it. So, just don't send anything but your request and only what is needed for that request. E.g. I've disabled send-referer via a prefbar checkbox, and that stays off unless (very rarely) some site doesn't work without it. Yes, I know what the referer is and I miss it in the logs of my site(s) if it's not there, but, as the web has developed the last 15 years??? Hey, they want to track me? Ok, so I don't even send them the referer... I can play that game too ... If I find the time, I might look over those tips above a bit more. But: many basic configs that Firefox lacks in the UI are there in Seamonkey (which I use only as a browser, FFs UI is crap anyway). And some I might have as checkboxes in my prefbar (e.g. some deprecated hashes, safe.renogtiation which I don't care about if I'd load that page without https anyway and some sites have broken https or had until not long ago[1]). So, David, could you start with a fresh profile, install uMatrix, read its docs (once you get the basic principle[2], its quite easy and very efficient to use!). And on that specific site, no adjustments were needed, if I remember the uMatrix defaults right. And/or try my flash-player package, if that works, that might be the easiest way. Or 'strace -f -efile -o ff-flash.strace' your firefox. Somehow it doesn't seem to find the plugin... But analyzing that ff-flash.strace might be a little tedious ('grep flash ff-flash.strace' would be my first step, probably). And remind me to go over the about:config prefs of firefox, I need to do that anyway too, so maybe we can do that together. I could even fire up my irc server and open the firewall for some more rapid back-n-forth on request for you. -dnh PS: And yes, I'm aware of being trackable by trying to be untrackable but as long as they can't connect this to me... Anyhow, I prefer being only trackable that way than by bending over and just delivering willfully. Me paranoid? PPS: prefbar.mozdev.org PPPS: Webdesigners should be forced to use 56k lines (max), and CPUs like a Pentium 133 or so. [1] ISTR amazon needed rc4/md5 still not that long ago, which ISTR is, why I have a prefbar checkbox for this option: security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_128_md5 And yes, I've disabled all insecure algorithms, but have the checkbox for this, as I needed it not long ago. [2] the matrix of (sub-)domains over features (cookies, scripts, ...) -- A monk. A punk. A chick. In a kick-ass flick. -- Bulletproof Monk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-25 12:34, David Haller wrote: ...
However, they got that right:
"Disable Safe Browsing service
Safe Browsing offers phishing protection and malware checks,"
*BUUULLLLSHHIIIIT*
"however it may send user information (e.g. URL, file hashes, etc.) to third parties like Google."
No, this one is justified. Basically, it asks a google server whether the site you want to go to has been flagged as bad. Either that, or you maintain the list yourself. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Hello, On Sat, 25 Mar 2017, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-25 12:34, David Haller wrote:
However, they got that right:
"Disable Safe Browsing service
Safe Browsing offers phishing protection and malware checks,"
*BUUULLLLSHHIIIIT*
"however it may send user information (e.g. URL, file hashes, etc.) to third parties like Google."
No, this one is justified. Basically, it asks a google server whether the site you want to go to has been flagged as bad. Either that, or you maintain the list yourself.
But it asks google servers _for every page you visit_, so you leave a perfect trail of what you are doing. Even better than google, facebook et.al. with cookies and various tracking scripts. And I do not have to maintain a list (I do for the notorious), but let uMatrix sort them out. -dnh -- What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary. -- Richard Harkness, _The New York Times_, 1960 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* David Haller <dnh@opensuse.org> [03-27-17 09:17]: [...]
But it asks google servers _for every page you visit_, so you leave a perfect trail of what you are doing. Even better than google, facebook et.al. with cookies and various tracking scripts.
And I do not have to maintain a list (I do for the notorious), but let uMatrix sort them out.
so how do you access youtube with uMatrix? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Mon, 27 Mar 2017, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* David Haller <dnh@opensuse.org> [03-27-17 09:17]: [...]
But it asks google servers _for every page you visit_, so you leave a perfect trail of what you are doing. Even better than google, facebook et.al. with cookies and various tracking scripts.
And I do not have to maintain a list (I do for the notorious), but let uMatrix sort them out.
so how do you access youtube with uMatrix?
youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$ID or clive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$ID I can watch while downloading and abort and delete anytime. And I think (haven't tried a while) you can have both feed the DL direct to e.g. vlc or mplayer (oh, that reminds me of trying to plug a "tee" in between :). Or have youtube-dl just output the final URL and then manually feed that to a player. Oh, and you can feed whole playlists to youtube-dl for later watching ;) And *if and when* I want to search etc., I can still allow youtube.com, ytimg.com in uMatrix for that time (only, or permanently if I'd so choose). But usually, it's either some stuff I've bookmarked (e.g. Last Week Tonight), where I wanna grab the latest vid, or some specific URL incl. ID I found somewhere (say twitter) I can just feed that to clive/youtube-dl directly anyway. Or dump it in the browser for the "related" stuff, that does show up without JS. IIRC the only time I need JS on YT is when loading "more" videos, i.e. old stuff that doesn't fit on the first page of the "Videos" page etc. And anyway: DL+watching is so much more comfortable anyway: if you're on a slow line, you basically have no other choice anyway, unless you want to wait every 5s for 10s plus... Or so. And if you're on a fast (un-volume-metered) line, dump it to a temp-dir, watch at your leisure, delete or keep, or whatever. And remember: streaming == downloading, just without saving more than some buffer (that might be too small to play nicely, causing "loading" pauses). So, I prefer to just download (stream to disc) and watch the still-being-saved stuff with a reasonable buffer (and keep or watch'n'delete or abort'n'delete). Or watch later. HTH & HAND, -dnh PS: in some way or other, there's few vids I haven't been able to "save to disc". See above: Streaming == dl + playing. At _some point_, EVERY stream has to be delivered, cached and thus can be theoretically just as well be stored ;) There's some few really broken sites and those with DRM out there though, but theoretically their stream could be saved too. At some point, I (and others like the youtube-dl devs) give up, it's just too much hoops to jump through. And mind you, I've crafted up some perl-scripts for the one or other site on my own, getting to know HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath was reeeally helpful ;) Add LWP, and you have a basic downloader rather easy, once you've found the XPath to the (URL to the) vid ;) E.g.: my $url = $tree->findnodes( '//div[@id="player"]/div[@class="noFlash"]/a/attribute::href' ); Fun fact: ISTR that youtube-dl supports that site too, as I found out later on ;) But me (re-)learning that XPath stuff etc. is so useful generally while munging websites, it's worth keeping and probably updating if neccessary. Helps munging stuff in my browser too (via Scriptish / formerly GreaseMonkey). Though I'm not sure I've used XPath there. But I used it somewhere else ;) Apropos: I use scriptish to nice-up some regular visited sites, a couple of CSS tweaks here (e.g. on the IMDB keywords and cast pages), a couple tweaks there[1] (removing annoying overlays with "social-media buttons")... So much so, that I've an shortcut function for "remove me" in those scripts... Too bad at least one site is quite broken. Having the same element "id" multiple times ist just broken, then not assigning any ids or even classes to "relevant" elements, but just generating div-tags-soups via PHP ... "web-designers"... I mentioned that "specie" already, didn't I? Basically, their PHP spits out a tag soup as if that's then been eaten by an Ankh-Morpork street-dog-mongrel, barfed out, et by an Ankh-Morpork rat and barfed out again and only then fed into my browser. *yuk* Well, albeit, it's a complexish site with tons of stuff out of a DB or three, but structure? *whut's thot???* [1] coming from the site, not directly from FB etc. -- The question I have is if you take the 'bugs/spyware/IE/Media player/ other undesirables' (you were talking about 'fixing' it) out of Windows, is it going to be worth using? Would it then fit on a single density floppy? -- J. Ramsey [2004/02/13] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/25/2017 12:34 PM, David Haller wrote:
PPPS: Webdesigners should be forced to use 56k lines (max), and CPUs like a Pentium 133 or so.
And this should be their browser.startup.page http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:40:39 +0100 Rüdiger Meier <sweet_f_a@gmx.de> wrote:
On 03/25/2017 12:34 PM, David Haller wrote:
PPPS: Webdesigners should be forced to use 56k lines (max), and CPUs like a Pentium 133 or so.
And this should be their browser.startup.page http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
Absolutely!
cu, Rudi
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On 03/25/2017 06:34 AM, David Haller wrote:
So, David, could you start with a fresh profile, install uMatrix, read its docs (once you get the basic principle[2], its quite easy and very efficient to use!). And on that specific site, no adjustments were needed, if I remember the uMatrix defaults right.
You bet I can... Thank you dnh! I've never dug nearly as deeply into the bowels of the tracking and protections as you have. I had been fairly pleased with the disabling of the background sites listed in the links, but obviously things have progressed quite a bit since those pages were written. I'm using uBlock origin currently, and had seen where uMatrix was under development and headed for release that last time I checked (? 6 months or so ago). Between NoScript and uBlock Origin, I had been happy with the protections and control over the js pages. I always laugh when sites want js enabled, and you "temporarily" enable to get part of the page functionality you need, and the holy shit, there are 50 more grubbing sites that pop up (Google, Facebook, etc..) I wouldn't enable them if you payed me, and if a site requires it, I go elsewhere. It is a race to the bottom with the scumbag data miners out there. How have we let the net get so fucked up in the last 25 years? When the first NSCA Mosiac browser came out, the net was bright and shiny-new. The maggot types hadn't learned how to exploit it yet, and it was a wonderful collaborative resource instantly made easier by html (no longer having to remember IP addresses or host-names, ftp replaced by hyper-links. Mail passwords sent in clear-text, no problems at all -- until, the maggots and moles found their way on. Sad, just like my land-line phone, it's a pay-to-be-annoyed proposition at this point... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-24 23:11, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
I have a NOAA weather site that continues to use flash for radar loops, As we are under a convective SIGMET, I would like to look at the radar loop. The site is:
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=shv&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
I've installed:
flash-player-npapi-25.0.0.127-release.x86_64.rpm
and the links in /usr/lib64/browser-plugins is correct:
libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
I've restarted the browser, but still flash does not appear as a plugin in about:plugins and the site still complains that a Plugin is Required.
Is the problem me?, is it NOAA?, is it flash? What's the trick?
Works here: cer@minas-tirith:~> rpm -qa | grep -i flash flash-player-gnome-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64 flash-player-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64 cer@minas-tirith:~> As you can see, no flash-player-npapi installed. Firefox is version 52 from upstream. cer@minas-tirith:~> rpm -qf /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so flash-player-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64 cer@minas-tirith:~> Not a link. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Hello, On Sat, 25 Mar 2017, Carlos E. R. wrote:
cer@minas-tirith:~> rpm -qa | grep -i flash flash-player-gnome-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64 flash-player-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64
Carlos, care to tell us the source of those rpms, i.e. what about: rpm -q --qf '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} :: %{distribution}\n' flash-player And you know that you SHOULD UPDATE NOW! The list of CVEs and the exploits in them is quite impressive. Here: $ rpm -q --qf '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} :: %{distribution}\n' flash-player flash-player-25.0.0.127-2.127.1 :: home:dnh / openSUSE_12.1_Update_standard And that package is available for all other openSUSE-distros up to TW, i.e. 12.x, 13.x, 42.x and TW/Factory. But if nobody cares but me, I'll drop it. -dnh, I could move it to a dedicated subproject though, so noone accidentally pulls in other stuff... *scribble* -- Some days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed long enough to hit the snooze button. -- Eric The Read -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-25 10:27, David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017, Carlos E. R. wrote:
cer@minas-tirith:~> rpm -qa | grep -i flash flash-player-gnome-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64 flash-player-24.0.0.221-1.1.x86_64
Carlos, care to tell us the source of those rpms, i.e. what about:
rpm -q --qf '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} :: %{distribution}\n' flash-player
And you know that you SHOULD UPDATE NOW! The list of CVEs and the exploits in them is quite impressive.
Here: $ rpm -q --qf '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} :: %{distribution}\n' flash-player flash-player-25.0.0.127-2.127.1 :: home:dnh / openSUSE_12.1_Update_standard
packman. cer@minas-tirith:~/Compilaciones> rpm -q --qf '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} :: %{distribution}\n' flash-player flash-player-24.0.0.221-1.1 :: Essentials / openSUSE_Leap_42.2 cer@minas-tirith:~/Compilaciones> I have just updated it now to version 25. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 25/03/2017 00:11, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
I have a NOAA weather site that continues to use flash for radar loops, As we are under a convective SIGMET, I would like to look at the radar loop. The site is:
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=shv&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
I've installed:
flash-player-npapi-25.0.0.127-release.x86_64.rpm
and the links in /usr/lib64/browser-plugins is correct:
libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
I've restarted the browser, but still flash does not appear as a plugin in about:plugins and the site still complains that a Plugin is Required.
Is the problem me?, is it NOAA?, is it flash? What's the trick?
I've got flash-player-24.0.0.194-2.127.1 installed and the site works, I see there's an update available. It's in Packman but I use the one from my home:plater repo which links to home:dnh / flash-player and is normally the latest. I build it in home to prevent having random repositories hanging around. The Packman one should be fine. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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