Help with *strange* 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender'
I have just received my second 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' in the last two days. Not normally odd. Sometimes I mistype or have an old e-mail address for someone. Yet this one is VERY strange!!! The return is purported to be coming from MAILER-DAEMON@linux.local (Mail Delivery System), and in the full header seems to be routing through artelecom.net in Romania. Here's the content minus the 2 attachments: ** This is the Postfix program at host linux.local. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program <dorin@localhost.linux.local>: host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.5.0 Error in processing, id=06674-10, virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE (in reply to end of DATA command) ** As I said there are 2 attachments with this notification. One is said to be the 'Delivery error report' of an unknown file type and 360 bytes in size. The other is said to be the 'Undelivered Message' of the type Email Message and 2.7 kb in size. I'm seriously freaked out by this coming through!!! NO I don't have spamassasin or Antivir setup. This is taken care of through my ISP. I get the occassional spam that makes it through, but I just delete it and go on with my life. This one really disturbs me!!! HELP!!! How can this be stopped at the source??? Bernd -- "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery
On Thursday 04 December 2003 3:51 pm, Bernd wrote:
I have just received my second 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' in the last two days. Not normally odd. Sometimes I mistype or have an old e-mail address for someone. Yet this one is VERY strange!!!
The return is purported to be coming from MAILER-DAEMON@linux.local (Mail Delivery System), and in the full header seems to be routing through artelecom.net in Romania.
I have had some of these all from dorin I assume they from someone on the list who's machine is in bad way.
On Thursday 04 December 2003 10:51 am, Bernd wrote:
I have just received my second 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' in the last two days. Not normally odd. Sometimes I mistype or have an old e-mail address for someone. Yet this one is VERY strange!!!
The return is purported to be coming from MAILER-DAEMON@linux.local (Mail Delivery System), and in the full header seems to be routing through artelecom.net in Romania.
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I'm seriously freaked out by this coming through!!! NO I don't have spamassasin or Antivir setup. This is taken care of through my ISP. I get the occassional spam that makes it through, but I just delete it and go on with my life. This one really disturbs me!!!
HELP!!! How can this be stopped at the source???
First, don't panic ... this person has a misconfigured email program. You aren't the only one to get them . You can send the first copy along w/ the number of them that you recieved, if they are all from hte same address. Send a copy, no doubt cut and paste prefered ( no html, no attachements) but W/ ALL the header information , in case the kindly baby sitters have to do some serious hunting ( sometimes importatn w/ spam...) send it along to suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com , or to one of the fellows who said they were "baby sitting us" til a new CKM can be asssigned to this kindergarten. <VBG> -- j, If we weren't all crazy , we *would* go insane. Buffett
The Thursday 2003-12-04 at 11:04 -0500, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
First, don't panic ... this person has a misconfigured email program. You aren't the only one to get them . You can send the first copy along w/ the number of them that you recieved, if they are all from hte same address. Send a copy, no doubt cut and paste prefered ( no html, no attachements) but W/ ALL the header information , in case the kindly baby sitters have to do some serious hunting ( sometimes importatn w/ spam...) send it along to suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com , or to one of the fellows who said they were "baby sitting us" til a new CKM can be asssigned to this kindergarten. <VBG>
No need now; I already did that, and the owner removed him from the list. But the headers show that the mails were hold 5 days, so we still will be getting some that are in transit. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
The Thursday 2003-12-04 at 07:51 -0800, Bernd wrote:
I have just received my second 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' in the last two days. Not normally odd. Sometimes I mistype or have an old e-mail address for someone. Yet this one is VERY strange!!!
That is because you write few mail to the list O:-)
<dorin@localhost.linux.local>: host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.5.0 Error in processing, id=06674-10, virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE (in reply to end of DATA command)
Ah, yes, I know that one.
spamassasin or Antivir setup. This is taken care of through my ISP. I get the occassional spam that makes it through, but I just delete it and go on with my life. This one really disturbs me!!!
Don't be. It is a normal bounce from a misconfigured SuSE linux system by someone subscribed to this list, but who misconfigured something in his/her setup, and it bounces back to you - if you look carefully, you will see that it is an email you wrote to the list that is bouncing back. In fact, his virus check is acting up: |> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.5.0 Error in |> processing, id=21561-10, virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE (in |> reply to end of DATA command)
HELP!!! How can this be stopped at the source???
By forwarding one of them, complete, to the "-owner" address for the list - after you check, reading carefully, that indeed is a bounce from a list member. You don't need to do that now, because at least I did so, and the owner took manual action - ie, he had to remove him from the list. Unfortunately, the bounces are five days old (in hold), so even if he is unsubscribed there will be more of these comming till the queue is emptied or he notices and solves the problem - without writing to the list, of course. If he is reading, he should dissable antivirus checking. By the way, this means that our postfix (for most of us) is configured to bounce back to the sender, and not to the envelope header. This would be an interesting question for some one who knows about that. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Thanks everyone!!! I just had visions of someone trying to sneak bad stuff to linux users. Bernd -- "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery
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Bernd
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Carlos E. R.
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david stevenson
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jfweber@bellsouth.net