On 05/10/2018 02:39 PM, Aaron Digulla wrote:

Am 10.05.2018 um 19:52 schrieb James Knott:

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One thing I do frequently is paste images I might find on a web site into an email.  However, recently this no longer works.  When I paste, instead of the image, I get a little square, containing what looks like the outline of a computer & keyboard.  This happens with both Seamonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird.  I can paste an image into Thunderbird on Windows.  Has there been a change recently that causes this problem?  I'm running OpenSUSE 42.3. Make sure you're using the "HTML" mode to compose the mail. In "plain text" mode, you can't paste images.

The quick indication of HTML mode is the presence of text modes (bold, italic, colors, etc). in a toolbar between the "Subject" and the mail editor.

To change the mode, try Options -> E-Mail Format -> Only HTML.

If that's not it, then try to paste the image into libreoffice or a similar word processor. Maybe the web site somehow prevents you to copy the image.

Regards,

As I mentioned, I have been doing this for a long time.  My email is set to use HTML by default and only use plain text when specified in the address book, as I do for this list.  It also affected both apps very recently. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2018 03:06 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2018-05-10 20:56, James Knott wrote:

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As I mentioned, I have been doing this for a long time.  My email is set to use HTML by default and only use plain text when specified in the address book, as I do for this list.  It also affected both apps very recently. Can you post a sample web page to try reproduce?

I often paste the editorial cartoons from here: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorial_cartoon/2018/05/10/theo-moudakis-f... When I tried to do that yesterday, it failed.  Last week it was working fine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2018 04:20 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Another alternative is to save the image to file, and import that...

Why should all that be necessary, when it worked well until recently? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2018 11:02 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2018-05-11 03:38, James Knott wrote:

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On 05/10/2018 04:20 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Another alternative is to save the image to file, and import that... Why should all that be necessary, when it worked well until recently? My guess is that the web page found a trick to make it fail, intentionally. It works on other sites.

Then why does it work in Windows? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/05/18 01:45, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2018-05-11 17:40, James Knott wrote:

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On 05/10/2018 11:02 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-05-11 03:38, James Knott wrote:

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On 05/10/2018 04:20 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Another alternative is to save the image to file, and import that... Why should all that be necessary, when it worked well until recently? My guess is that the web page found a trick to make it fail, intentionally. It works on other sites.

Then why does it work in Windows? Dunno. :-)

We should try on leap 15 and tumbleweed.

Works in Leap 15.0. Haven't tried it in TW. BC -- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 12.05.2018 um 15:07 schrieb Luuk:

On 10-5-2018 21:09, James Knott wrote:

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On 05/10/2018 03:06 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-05-10 20:56, James Knott wrote:

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As I mentioned, I have been doing this for a long time.  My email is set to use HTML by default and only use plain text when specified in the address book, as I do for this list.  It also affected both apps very recently. Can you post a sample web page to try reproduce?

I often paste the editorial cartoons from here: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorial_cartoon/2018/05/10/theo-moudakis-f...

When I tried to do that yesterday, it failed.  Last week it was working fine.

When copying the image via RightClick, Copy image, i get the following url: https://images.thestar.com/W1mjfWUUhsCkLGIzE5Iq_HQJNFc=/1200x1143/smart/filt... which does not work....

Canging the url to: https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/editorial_cartoon/2018/0... does work!

I think it's a change made in the website, and has almost nothing to do with version of OS and/or version of TB.

it's working here 42.3, no problem. Don't think it has to do with the website. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2018 11:14 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

James Knott composed on 2018-05-10 13:52 (UTC-0400):

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One thing I do frequently is paste images I might find on a web site into an email.  However, recently this no longer works.  When I paste, instead of the image, I get a little square, containing what looks like the outline of a computer & keyboard.  This happens with both Seamonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird.  I can paste an image into Thunderbird on Windows.  Has there been a change recently that causes this problem?  I'm running OpenSUSE 42.3. Is this in Plasma? Only? Which FF?

Whatever is in 42.3 and latest FF update.

Have you tried first viewing the subject image from the context menu, then DND or copy/paste from it instead of the HTML page?

Already tried that.  Same thing.

BTW, upstream 2.49.3 was released a week ago. Maybe see if it differs?

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On 05/11/2018 11:50 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

So it happens in all of Plasma, Gnome, Mate, LXQt, Cinnamon, XFCE, IceWM, Enlightenment, TWM, etc., or just in one DE?

KDM4 is all I use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2018 12:00 PM, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:

Op vrijdag 11 mei 2018 17:53:35 CEST schreef James Knott:

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On 05/11/2018 11:50 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

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So it happens in all of Plasma, Gnome, Mate, LXQt, Cinnamon, XFCE, IceWM, Enlightenment, TWM, etc., or just in one DE? KDM4 is all I use. Is that KDE4 or KDM? KDM is dead, deprecated KDE4 is also dead. In both cases I suggested you switch to what is not dead, i.e. GNOME, KDE5, Xfce, or at least try it in one of those, preferably using SDDM or GDM

According to Yast, KDM4.  Desktops are not something I play around with, so I have whatever 42.3 provided by default. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, 11 May 2018 12:02:27 -0400 James Knott wrote:

According to Yast, KDM4.  Desktops are not something I play around with, so I have whatever 42.3 provided by default.

When I search YaST software management using 'kdm4' it says 'No Results.' So I think you need to provide more explanation. By contrast, SDDM does return results. Neither does kde5. But 'kde plasma' returns hits for plasma-5. So again, I think you need to try harder to help yourself and others trying to help you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:37:19 -0400 James Knott wrote:

On 05/11/2018 03:19 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Fri, 11 May 2018 12:02:27 -0400 James Knott wrote:

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According to Yast, KDM4.  Desktops are not something I play around with, so I have whatever 42.3 provided by default. When I search YaST software management using 'kdm4' it says 'No Results.'

So I think you need to provide more explanation.

By contrast, SDDM does return results. Neither does kde5. But 'kde plasma' returns hits for plasma-5. So again, I think you need to try harder to help yourself and others trying to help you.

In Yast sysconfig, under displaymanager it says kdm4.  BTW, this is a direct copy 'n paste to show exactly what is in that box.

Sorry, what is a 'direct copy 'n paste' of what box? What exactly do you mean by 'Yast sysconfig'? In my case, under System/'/etc/sysconfig/editor', under DISPLAYMANAGER it says 'lightdm'.

The info for that setting is:

File: /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager Possible Values: kdm, kdm3, kdm4, xdm, gdm, wdm, entrance, console or any value

Not in my case. It says: Possible Values: kdm, xdm, gdm, wdm, entrance, console, lightdm, sddm or any value So I guess you have indeed played around with something. Since YaST doesn't find any hits for kdm4 for me, I suppose you probably have some repository enabled (i.e. not standard) that I don't.

Default Value: Description:

 Here you can set the default Display manager (kdm/xdm/gdm/wdm/entrance/console).  all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager

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On 2018-05-11 22:03, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:37:19 -0400 James Knott wrote:

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On 05/11/2018 03:19 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Fri, 11 May 2018 12:02:27 -0400 James Knott wrote:

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According to Yast, KDM4.  Desktops are not something I play around with, so I have whatever 42.3 provided by default. When I search YaST software management using 'kdm4' it says 'No Results.'

So I think you need to provide more explanation.

By contrast, SDDM does return results. Neither does kde5. But 'kde plasma' returns hits for plasma-5. So again, I think you need to try harder to help yourself and others trying to help you.

In Yast sysconfig, under displaymanager it says kdm4.  BTW, this is a direct copy 'n paste to show exactly what is in that box.

Sorry, what is a 'direct copy 'n paste' of what box?

Don't you know what a copy and paste is?

What exactly do you mean by 'Yast sysconfig'? In my case, under System/'/etc/sysconfig/editor', under DISPLAYMANAGER it says 'lightdm'.

YaST has a module to display sysconfig entries. You can look it up yourself. Section "system", name "sysconfig editor". James refers to that module.

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The info for that setting is:

File: /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager Possible Values: kdm, kdm3, kdm4, xdm, gdm, wdm, entrance, console or any value

Not in my case. It says: Possible Values: kdm, xdm, gdm, wdm, entrance, console, lightdm, sddm or any value

So I guess you have indeed played around with something.

Not necessarily. There is no proof of that. Mine are different from both of you, and I did not change them.

Since YaST doesn't find any hits for kdm4 for me, I suppose you probably have some repository enabled (i.e. not standard) that I don't.

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Default Value: Description:

 Here you can set the default Display manager (kdm/xdm/gdm/wdm/entrance/console).  all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager

James, unfortunately what you have pasted is the help text, not the configured value. James, simply paste the result of this command: grep -w DISPLAYMANAGER /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager One possible result would be: DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm" And there are several possible values, all of them valid. And Dave, I also have James problem, I use XFCE, and I reported the exact versions I use on another post of this thread. I very much doubt this is related to the display manager. Maybe the desktop, but you are not asking for a command that would give us the exact desktop and version he is using... James, you can find the desktop you are using, if you really don't know which it is (unbelievable!), this way. Run this in a terminal: ps afxu | less -S Search (/) for the string "/usr/bin/X". You may see something different but equivalent to this:

root 5460 0.0 0.0 342116 1172 ? SLl Apr22 0:05 /usr/sbin/lightdm <======= display manager root 29781 0.7 3.7 987464 307572 tty7 Ss+ May06 62:31 \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -seat seat0 ... root 29813 0.0 0.0 246624 1808 ? Sl May06 0:00 \_ lightdm ... cer 30172 0.0 0.0 10752 0 ? Ss May06 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/ck-launch-session .../gpg-agent --sh --daemon --keep-display --wr cer 30245 0.0 0.0 13156 4 ? S May06 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc ... cer 30250 0.0 0.0 13308 0 ? Ss May06 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/ssh-agent ... cer 30251 0.0 0.0 16644 1608 ? Ss May06 0:05 \_ /usr/bin/gpg-agent -... cer 30258 0.0 0.0 396820 6588 ? Sl May06 0:13 \_ xfce4-session cer 30268 0.0 0.1 479292 14140 ? Sl May06 0:40 \_ xfwm4 --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 2981b20ab-cad4-4a61-a0a8-de6e7e9a56ac cer 30281 0.0 0.1 413640 14084 ? Sl May06 0:39 \_ xfce4-panel --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 265707e8d-4586-43e3-8888-e31eccb9e8d1

See the line with "xfce4-session"? Thus I'm using XFCE version 4. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-05-12 05:07, James Knott wrote:

On 05/11/2018 09:15 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Since YaST doesn't find any hits for kdm4 for me, I suppose you probably have some repository enabled (i.e. not standard) that I don't.

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Default Value: Description:

 Here you can set the default Display manager (kdm/xdm/gdm/wdm/entrance/console).  all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager James, unfortunately what you have pasted is the help text, not the configured value.

Actually, I did paste value, just above the portion you quoted.  It was kdm4.

I do not see it. I see that you said it was kdem4, but you did not paste it. Ok, doesn't matter.

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James, simply paste the result of this command:

grep -w DISPLAYMANAGER /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager

One possible result would be:

DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"

And it again shows:

$ grep -w DISPLAYMANAGER /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm4"

Ok.

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James, you can find the desktop you are using, if you really don't know which it is (unbelievable!), this way. Run this in a terminal:

ps afxu | less -S

Search (/) for the string "/usr/bin/X". You may see something different but equivalent to this:

Actually, I didn't.  However, the output was 319 lines, so I might have missed it.

Well, upload it to suse paste, or mail it directly to me. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Dave Howorth wrote:

Not in my case. It says: Possible Values: kdm, xdm, gdm, wdm, entrance, console, lightdm, sddm or any value

On my system (that file is still from 13.2 on my sys), it has:

head /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager ## Path: Desktop/Display manager ## Description: settings to generate a proper displaymanager config ## Type: string(kdm,kdm3,kdm4,xdm,gdm,wdm,console) ## Default: "" # # Here you can set the default Display manager (kdm/xdm/gdm/wdm/console). # all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager # DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"

So I guess you have indeed played around with something.

The kdm4 is on the 3rd line. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2018-05-12 08:11, L A Walsh wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote: ## Type: string(kdm,kdm3,kdm4,xdm,gdm,wdm,console) ...

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Not in my case. It says: Possible Values: kdm, xdm, gdm, wdm, entrance, console, lightdm, sddm or any value

So I guess you have indeed played around with something.

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The kdm4 is on the 3rd line.

Everybody has different content in that file. Means nothing.

It means that you don't have to play around with something in order to have kdm4 shown in the config. I seem to remember James saying his system was a result of upgrading. This is a config file -- if a user chooses a desktop, it's modified and not replaced by default on an upgrade. I.e. having kdm4 in the file would show that the file was likely originally from some older distro.

See? no kdm4 nor 3. :-P

--- That shows you have a system that wasn't upgraded from a distro as old as the one James upgraded from. So? ;^| *pishaw*! ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-05-13 13:31, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:

Op zondag 13 mei 2018 13:20:53 CEST schreef L A Walsh:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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See? no kdm4 nor 3. :-P

--- That shows you have a system that wasn't upgraded from a distro as old as the one James upgraded from. So? ;^|

*pishaw*! ;-) Yep. The only possibility. And since kdm4 is not installed it cannot be used and the system will fall back to the default DM.

He is using in fact "/usr/bin/kdm" that starts "/usr/bin/Xorg" that starts "/bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde". Yhus he is using plasma5: cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/startkde plasma5-workspace-5.8.7-11.1.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/kdm kdm-4.11.22-5.29.x86_64 kdm version 4. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 05/11/2018 12:00 PM, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:

In both cases I suggested you switch to what is not dead, i.e. GNOME, KDE5, Xfce, or at least try it in one of those, preferably using SDDM or GDM

There is no KDE5 in Yast and I don't like Gnome. SDDM is also not listed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2018 12:19 PM, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:

I should have phrased more precise: KDE Plasma 5. If you use KDM you somehow at sometime must have switched DM's.

As I mentioned before, I don't do anything with the desktop.  If it's changed, it's a result of updating OpenSUSE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2018 03:05 PM, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:

Op vrijdag 11 mei 2018 18:03:39 CEST schreef James Knott:

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On 05/11/2018 12:00 PM, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:

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In both cases I suggested you switch to what is not dead, i.e. GNOME, KDE5, Xfce, or at least try it in one of those, preferably using SDDM or GDM There is no KDE5 in Yast and I don't like Gnome. SDDM is also not listed. Just created a VM with 42.3. KDM is not even available, SDDM is. So, you're either not on 42.3 or your upgrade from a previous version went wrong, or you changed the system. Or the cached repo content is broken, which I don't suspect.

It might be due to an update somewhere along the line, but I have never changed it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org