[opensuse] Remote login - openSUSE 12.1
As described in bug report #731087, remote login does not work in openSUSE 12.1. This is a feature that I use regularly. I can get a remote desktop using the X :n -query <host> command, but while I get a desktop, I cannot switch away from it, without losing the remote session. Is there any other way of connecting via XDMCP that works in a manner similar to the remote login? tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2011 10:21 AM, James Knott wrote:
As described in bug report #731087, remote login does not work in openSUSE 12.1. This is a feature that I use regularly. I can get a remote desktop using the X :n -query <host> command, but while I get a desktop, I cannot switch away from it, without losing the remote session. Is there any other way of connecting via XDMCP that works in a manner similar to the remote login?
tnx jk
Why not ssh in while allowing forwarding of X session? XDMCP over insecure links has been a bad idea since the Pleistocene and hasn't improved since. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
On 11/17/2011 10:21 AM, James Knott wrote:
As described in bug report #731087, remote login does not work in openSUSE 12.1. This is a feature that I use regularly. I can get a remote desktop using the X :n -query<host> command, but while I get a desktop, I cannot switch away from it, without losing the remote session. Is there any other way of connecting via XDMCP that works in a manner similar to the remote login?
tnx jk
Why not ssh in while allowing forwarding of X session? XDMCP over insecure links has been a bad idea since the Pleistocene and hasn't improved since.
X over ssh allows running only one app and that does work. However, it doesn't provide the full desktop. Also, I'm not using it over an insecure link. I use it only on the local lan. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2011 11:54 AM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On 11/17/2011 10:21 AM, James Knott wrote:
As described in bug report #731087, remote login does not work in openSUSE 12.1. This is a feature that I use regularly. I can get a remote desktop using the X :n -query<host> command, but while I get a desktop, I cannot switch away from it, without losing the remote session. Is there any other way of connecting via XDMCP that works in a manner similar to the remote login?
tnx jk
Why not ssh in while allowing forwarding of X session? XDMCP over insecure links has been a bad idea since the Pleistocene and hasn't improved since.
X over ssh allows running only one app and that does work. However, it doesn't provide the full desktop. Also, I'm not using it over an insecure link. I use it only on the local lan.
Ok, I see your point regarding local network. I suspect X is limted to 127.0.0.1 on the target machine. As to your first point, (only one app), that's not really true, I often ssh into a remote machine, and immediately open up multiple shells with something like "xterm &", or "konsole &". And if I need a full GUI desktop, which is rare, I just type kde at the command prompt and bob is my father's brother. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:13 PM, John Andersen
On 11/17/2011 11:54 AM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On 11/17/2011 10:21 AM, James Knott wrote:
As described in bug report #731087, remote login does not work in openSUSE 12.1. This is a feature that I use regularly. I can get a remote desktop using the X :n -query<host> command, but while I get a desktop, I cannot switch away from it, without losing the remote session. Is there any other way of connecting via XDMCP that works in a manner similar to the remote login?
tnx jk
Why not ssh in while allowing forwarding of X session? XDMCP over insecure links has been a bad idea since the Pleistocene and hasn't improved since.
X over ssh allows running only one app and that does work. However, it doesn't provide the full desktop. Also, I'm not using it over an insecure link. I use it only on the local lan.
Ok, I see your point regarding local network. I suspect X is limted to 127.0.0.1 on the target machine.
As to your first point, (only one app), that's not really true, I often ssh into a remote machine, and immediately open up multiple shells with something like "xterm &", or "konsole &". And if I need a full GUI desktop, which is rare, I just type kde at the command prompt and bob is my father's brother.
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Chuck Payne wrote:
Take a look at Xnest and here another one to look at Xephyr
I have used remote login for years. It just broken in 12.1. What I'm looking for is a way to use XDMCP without relying on that remote login function, where you cannot select the remote host. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:58 PM, James Knott
Chuck Payne wrote:
Take a look at Xnest and here another one to look at Xephyr
I have used remote login for years. It just broken in 12.1. What I'm looking for is a way to use XDMCP without relying on that remote login function, where you cannot select the remote host. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I notice that during the beta it was remove. I think it because of the move to Gnome 3, I think if you look at Fedora 15 above XDMCP is missing from them. Try do a search on XDMCP, GDM3 and KDM4. -- (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Chuck Payne wrote:
I notice that during the beta it was remove. I think it because of the move to Gnome 3, I think if you look at Fedora 15 above XDMCP is missing from them. Try do a search on XDMCP, GDM3 and KDM4.
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Chuck Payne wrote:
I notice that during the beta it was remove. I think it because of the move to Gnome 3, I think if you look at Fedora 15 above XDMCP is missing from them. Try do a search on XDMCP, GDM3 and KDM4.
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
Sounds like an undesired regression -> bugzilla. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.2°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Chuck Payne wrote:
I notice that during the beta it was remove. I think it because of the move to Gnome 3, I think if you look at Fedora 15 above XDMCP is missing from them. Try do a search on XDMCP, GDM3 and KDM4.
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
Sounds like an undesired regression -> bugzilla.
There's already a bug report on it. However, that doesn't do anything for me now. This is something I use regularly and is keeping me from upgrading some systems to 12.1, unless I can find some work around. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Chuck Payne wrote:
I notice that during the beta it was remove. I think it because of the move to Gnome 3, I think if you look at Fedora 15 above XDMCP is missing from them. Try do a search on XDMCP, GDM3 and KDM4.
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
Sounds like an undesired regression -> bugzilla.
There's already a bug report on it. However, that doesn't do anything for me now. This is something I use regularly and is keeping me from upgrading some systems to 12.1, unless I can find some work around.
Then don't upgrade :-), that's probably the best option. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
There's already a bug report on it. However, that doesn't do anything
for me now. This is something I use regularly and is keeping me from upgrading some systems to 12.1, unless I can find some work around.
Then don't upgrade:-), that's probably the best option.
One of the computers is a new ThinkPad, bought last month, that does not have WiFi support in 11.4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
There's already a bug report on it. However, that doesn't do anything
for me now. This is something I use regularly and is keeping me from upgrading some systems to 12.1, unless I can find some work around.
Then don't upgrade:-), that's probably the best option.
One of the computers is a new ThinkPad, bought last month, that does not have WiFi support in 11.4.
It might be easier to fix that than trying to get your rmeote login issue fixed. Maybe it's just lack of the right driver? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott said the following on 11/17/2011 08:40 PM:
Chuck Payne wrote:
I notice that during the beta it was remove. I think it because of the move to Gnome 3, I think if you look at Fedora 15 above XDMCP is missing from them. Try do a search on XDMCP, GDM3 and KDM4.
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
I disagree. What you describe is how it always worked for me - the list disappeared and back at the login. If you check the archives you'll see I asked about setting up XCMCP earlier this year since I was very confused by the different ways Mandriva, Redhat and Suse seem to want to make this work, all with different config files and not always in the kdmrc. I would have appreciated your help since you seem to have had it working on 11.4. Its no longer an issue, but what you describe is what I saw with 11.4. -- The major advances in civilization are processes that all but wreck the societies in which they occur. - A.N. Whitehead -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open
Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
I disagree. What you describe is how it always worked for me - the list disappeared and back at the login.
I have another ThinkPad with 11.4 on it. Remote login worked with it for me. In fact, I just tried it again to verify. It still works. So, for me at least, remote login works with 11.4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott said the following on 11/18/2011 12:55 PM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open
Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
I disagree. What you describe is how it always worked for me - the list disappeared and back at the login.
I have another ThinkPad with 11.4 on it. Remote login worked with it for me. In fact, I just tried it again to verify. It still works. So, for me at least, remote login works with 11.4.
Indeed, but that's not what I said - you elided what I said. I can configure it OK for 11.4 but that doesn't let me login from my opensuse 11.4 to the mandriva or redhat boxes. -- Where we cannot invent, we may at least improve. - Charles Caleb Colton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
James Knott said the following on 11/18/2011 12:55 PM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
I use KDE. The option is there, it just doesn't work. When you open
Remote Login, a list of available systems is listed, but as soon as you try to select one, the panel disappears and you're back at the login screen. It worked in 11.4, which also used KDE4.
I disagree. What you describe is how it always worked for me - the list disappeared and back at the login.
I have another ThinkPad with 11.4 on it. Remote login worked with it for me. In fact, I just tried it again to verify. It still works. So, for me at least, remote login works with 11.4.
Indeed, but that's not what I said - you elided what I said.
I can configure it OK for 11.4 but that doesn't let me login from my opensuse 11.4 to the mandriva or redhat boxes.
I haven't tried connecting to any other distro, as all my systems are openSUSE. However, from the sound of it, yours is a different problem. I am trying to connect to an openSUSE system that I have no problem connecting to with earlier versions. The problem is that with 12.1, you can't even attempt to connect to a system because as soon as you move the mouse to select one, the panel disappears. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
As to your first point, (only one app), that's not really true, I often ssh into a remote machine, and immediately open up multiple shells with something like "xterm&", or "konsole&". And if I need a full GUI desktop, which is rare, I just type kde at the command prompt and bob is my father's brother.
I am aware of starting multiple apps and have done so many times, but I was speaking in the general sense in comparison with being able to access the entire desktop with XDMCP. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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