Why is the piece of software called "amavisd-new" at Relay1.suse.de keeps evaluating some messages posted to this forum as spam and accordingly sticking the word SPAM at the beginning of the subject field? You will see this if one looks at the full header to an original, newly posted SPAM message in this forum. Cheers. -- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1
Hi Basil, thanks for pointing this out. I also was wondering why that happened to my recent posts... Let's see what the Moderator/s || Admin/s will do about it... Regards, Martin --- Basil Chupin <blchupin@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Why is the piece of software called "amavisd-new" at Relay1.suse.de keeps evaluating some messages posted to this forum as spam and accordingly sticking the word SPAM at the beginning of the subject field? You will see this if one looks at the full header to an original, newly posted SPAM message in this forum.
Cheers.
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Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi Basil,
thanks for pointing this out. I also was wondering why that happened to my recent posts...
Let's see what the Moderator/s || Admin/s will do about it...
Regards, Martin
--- Basil Chupin <blchupin@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Why is the piece of software called "amavisd-new" at Relay1.suse.de keeps evaluating some messages posted to this forum as spam and accordingly sticking the word SPAM at the beginning of the subject field? You will see this if one looks at the full header to an original, newly posted SPAM message in this forum.
Cheers.
-- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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Aaah! I just read the 3 lines immediatley above and then looked at your e-mail address and I think I now know the answer to my question :-) . I just a look at the messages which have been tossed into my junk folder by the spam filter and roughly 30% are from yahoo.com :-( . Cheers. -- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:32, Basil Chupin wrote:
Why is the piece of software called "amavisd-new" at Relay1.suse.de keeps evaluating some messages posted to this forum as spam and accordingly sticking the word SPAM at the beginning of the subject field? You will see this if one looks at the full header to an original, newly posted SPAM message in this forum.
Cheers.
-- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1
Take a look in the headers to see why: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at Relay1.suse.de X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=7.4 tagged_above=-20.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_95, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS X-Spam-Level: ******* X-Spam-Flag: YES
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:32, Basil Chupin wrote:
Why is the piece of software called "amavisd-new" at Relay1.suse.de keeps evaluating some messages posted to this forum as spam and accordingly sticking the word SPAM at the beginning of the subject field? You will see this if one looks at the full header to an original, newly posted SPAM message in this forum.
Cheers.
-- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1
Take a look in the headers to see why:
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at Relay1.suse.de X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=7.4 tagged_above=-20.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_95, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS X-Spam-Level: ******* X-Spam-Flag: YES
Yes, which is why mentioned looking at the full header and why I mentioned Relay1.suse.de . The question is why is the spam scanner finding so many "hits" in some messages? And if it is tagging messages as SPAM then why is it allowing them through to be posted in this forum? Why have a filter which does not filter :-) ? Cheers. -- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-08-01 at 23:54 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
The question is why is the spam scanner finding so many "hits" in some messages?
The Bayesian filter is badly trained, perhaps as a result of the automatic training feature it has, or because it is not used for a single destination but company wide. This hits some suse lists badly, like the Spanish language list, suse-linux-s.
And if it is tagging messages as SPAM then why is it allowing them through to be posted in this forum? Why have a filter which does not filter :-) ?
I think this initial filtering is company wide; it's up to each destination (user, employee, etc) to act on it or not - that is the correct behaviour, by the way (IMO). As I understand, if my memory serves me right (I corresponded with suse people about this problem at the time), many people got their email to suse lists rejected because they were wrongly marked as spam, and could not post. As a "temporary" solution, let's see what happens kind, they decided to let it mark spam, but not remove them. All this will be modified when these lists get moved to a new system, the one that is used for opensuse lists. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFE5c1ntTMYHG2NR9URAkpbAJwJni8rb/zO812NH8jLrbE2JOZ3LwCfe5kU vhd19rY6InsE7kGank5Km98= =OxOW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: "Basil Chupin" <blchupin@tpg.com.au>
Why is the piece of software called "amavisd-new" at Relay1.suse.de keeps evaluating some messages posted to this forum as spam and accordingly sticking the word SPAM at the beginning of the subject field? You will see this if one looks at the full header to an original, newly posted SPAM message in this forum.
Because a fugghead has not learned how to properly configure it and is so stupid he bounces emails back to the purported sender which for real spam is almost ALWAYS forged leading to misery for the "Joe Job" victim. When I run across such idiots I simply add them to a procmail rule and consign ANYTHING from that address to /dev/null. Whoever it is has created an automatic spam machine, which is a violation of most sane terms of service. Therefore blocking the whole ISP seems to be worthwhile given they obviously do not care. {^_^} Joanne
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