Converting 9.3 CD ISOs to a DVD ISO
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space. For me, the final md5sum was: 622c7592a940dd1faa34843eb81144b5 SuSE_9.3.iso [No warranty, no responsibility for anything this script does to your computer! ;)] -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency #!/bin/bash # Uncomment this section if you have physical cds and want to convert them to # ISOs first. You need to have the ISOs, named as in this script, for this # script to work predictably. #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #echo Please insert disk 1 of 5 and hit any key to continue. #read key #dd if=/dev/cdrom of=SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso #echo Please insert disk 2 of 5 and hit any key to continue. #read key #dd if=/dev/cdrom of=SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso #echo Please insert disk 3 of 5 and hit any key to continue. #read key #dd if=/dev/cdrom of=SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso #echo Please insert disk 4 of 5 and hit any key to continue. #read key #dd if=/dev/cdrom of=SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso #echo Please insert disk 5 of 5 and hit any key to continue. #read key #dd if=/dev/cdrom of=SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #Mount the CDs in loopback mode: mkdir CD1 CD2 CD3 CD4 CD5 mount SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso CD1 -o loop mount SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso CD2 -o loop mount SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso CD3 -o loop mount SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso CD4 -o loop mount SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso CD5 -o loop # Create a basic structure to overwrite files we need to modify for the CD (the checksums and boot files). cp -a CD1/boot . mkdir i586 i686 noarch # Create the NEW MD5SUMS as one file in order to allow SuSE to validate (thus install) all of the files from every CD and not just CD #1 # For the i586 directory: cat CD1/suse/i586/MD5SUMS CD2/suse/i586/MD5SUMS CD3/suse/i586/MD5SUMS CD4/suse/i586/MD5SUMS CD5/suse/i586/MD5SUMS > i586/MD5SUMS # For the i686 directory: cat CD1/suse/i686/MD5SUMS CD2/suse/i686/MD5SUMS > i686/MD5SUMS # For the noarch directory: cat CD1/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS CD2/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS CD3/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS CD4/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS CD5/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS > noarch/MD5SUMS # Now, create the ISO: mkisofs -o SuSE_9.3.iso -b boot/loader/isolinux.bin -c boot/loader/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -l -P SuSE -r -T -V SuSE_9.3 -x CD1/boot -x CD1/suse/i586/MD5SUMS -x CD1/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS -x CD1/suse/i686/MD5SUMS -x CD2/suse/i686/MD5SUMS -x CD2/suse/i586/MD5SUMS -x CD2/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS -x CD3/suse/i586/MD5SUMS -x CD3/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS -x CD4/suse/i586/MD5SUMS -x CD4/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS -x CD5/suse/i586/MD5SUMS -x CD5/suse/noarch/MD5SUMS -graft-points CD1 boot/=boot suse/i586/MD5SUMS=i586/MD5SUMS suse/noarch/MD5SUMS=noarch/MD5SUMS suse/i686/MD5SUMS=i686/MD5SUMS suse/=CD2/suse suse/=CD3/suse suse/=CD4/suse suse/=CD5/suse media.2/=CD2/media.2 media.3/=CD3/media.3 media.4/=CD4/media.4 media.5/=CD5/media.5 # Now just burn the ISO to a DVD (hint: use 'growisofs' or your favorite GUI-frontend to 'growisofs'). Optionally, you can mount this ISO like you did #above to verify it will work correctly, or if you don't want to actually burn it. Just call: #mkdir DVD #mount SuSE_9.3.iso DVD -o loop # Enjoy!
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space.
Can someone tell me the character to place at the end of a line to split a very long line into several lines and still have the shell interupret the command correctly. The script attached to this email had a "very" long command line. Thanks Terry -- SuSE Linux 9.3 (i586) -- 2.6.11.4-21.8-default -- Wed 08/17/05 7:55pm up 12 days 1:28, 3 users, load average: 0.57, 0.38, 0.19
Terry Eck wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space.
Can someone tell me the character to place at the end of a line to split a very long line into several lines and still have the shell interupret the command correctly. The script attached to this email had a "very" long command line.
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James Knott wrote:
Terry Eck wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space. Can someone tell me the character to place at the end of a line to split a very long line into several lines and still have the shell interupret the command correctly. The script attached to
Shriramana Sharma wrote: this email had a "very" long command line.
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So basically I could replace the MKISOFS statement with something like: mkisofs -o SuSE_9.3.iso \ -b boot/loader/isolinux.bin \ -c boot/loader/boot.cat \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -l -P SuSE \ -r -T -V SuSE_9.3 \ and so on and it would work fine? And hey guys, don't I even get a thanks? ;) -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency
On Thursday 18 August 2005 04:03, Christopher Shanahan wrote:
Did you do the work? In other words, did you write the script?!?!?!
Give me a break. Conveying information and tips is worthy of gratitude. It's what a community is all about. Are you related to Patrick by any chance?
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 22:36, Anders Johansson wrote:
Give me a break. Conveying information and tips is worthy of gratitude. It's what a community is all about.
I'm more than familiar with the idea of community, especially where Linux and OSS are concerned. It was his solicitation that I referred to, not his willingness to help the community. Regardless, I can't seem to find any of your past e-mails where you solicited thanks for passing along someone else's work -- whether you were serious or not. I must have missed that post. Actually, I can't recall _anyone_ else on this list doing that. Hmmm... I guess I'll have to search a little harder, huh.?
Are you related to Patrick by any chance?
Not directly -- no more than I am to you. Were you trying to be humorous? Regards! -- Christopher Shanahan
Christopher Shanahan wrote:
I'm more than familiar with the idea of community, especially where Linux and OSS are concerned. It was his solicitation that I referred to, not his willingness to help the community.
Oh come on guys. Didn't you see the ;) after "don't I get a thanks?" It was not a serious question, or "solicitation". But I'll lay off this. -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
And hey guys, don't I even get a thanks? ;)
I'm just trying it now. Thanks for posting it and thank your friend for writing it. -- SuSE Linux 9.3 (i586) -- 2.6.11.4-21.8-default -- Wed 08/17/05 9:35pm up 12 days 3:08, 4 users, load average: 3.96, 1.39, 0.72
Terry Eck wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
And hey guys, don't I even get a thanks? ;)
I'm just trying it now. Thanks for posting it and thank your friend for writing it.
Will do. Thanks. :) Do tell me if your md5 checks out with the one I posted. ('Cause I want to check if *mine* checks out!) -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Will do. Thanks. :) Do tell me if your md5 checks out with the one I posted. ('Cause I want to check if *mine* checks out!)
Looks different. Don't know why. I'll be checking the function of the DVD after I burn it. 223ed23b1d6b4f75a408ef1137d84401 SuSE_9.3.iso For anyone on the list: Is it possible to get a different md5 check and still have the same information in the *.iso? -- SuSE Linux 9.3 (i586) -- 2.6.11.4-21.8-default -- Thu 08/18/05 6:40pm up 13 days 0:13, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.25
Terry, On Thursday 18 August 2005 16:45, Terry Eck wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Will do. Thanks. :) Do tell me if your md5 checks out with the one I posted. ('Cause I want to check if *mine* checks out!)
Looks different. Don't know why. I'll be checking the function of the DVD after I burn it.
223ed23b1d6b4f75a408ef1137d84401 SuSE_9.3.iso
For anyone on the list: Is it possible to get a different md5 check and still have the same information in the *.iso?
The output of any of the checksum-generating programs (sum, cksum md5sum, sha1sum, etc.) is a function of the input files alone. You cannot get differing output from a given input. Different checksums implies different inputs (but not vice versa). On the other hand, if there is any information, any byte or bytes at all, in a .iso file that does not either get transferred to the CD or DVD when written or in some way indirectly influence the logical contents of the files or the file system (file names, mod dates, permissions, owner IDs, etc.) on the destination media, then it would be possible for two .iso files to have different checksums (and hence different contents) and still yield the same CD or DVD. One obvious possibility would be a time-stamp that describes the .iso file or its creation but not its logical content. Randall Schulz
On 8/19/05, Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:
different contents) and still yield the same CD or DVD. One obvious possibility would be a time-stamp that describes the .iso file or its creation but not its logical content.
Randall, so are you saying that since Terry and I created the image at different times we can have different md5sums and still the same content, with just the file timestamps being different? How, then, can I be sure that Terry and I got the exact same *content* (forget timestamps) that Terry got? (Note: I still haven't burned the image to DVD, since I was waiting for Terry's md5 report.)
Shriramana, On Thursday 18 August 2005 19:29, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
On 8/19/05, Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:
different contents) and still yield the same CD or DVD. One obvious possibility would be a time-stamp that describes the .iso file or its creation but not its logical content.
Randall, so are you saying that since Terry and I created the image at different times we can have different md5sums and still the same content, with just the file timestamps being different?
Well, that's certainly true, thought not exactly what I was saying. Since file modes and modification, change or access times, as well as every last other attribute that is recorded on a CD or DVD, must be recorded in the .iso image for that disck, changing any of those attributes for any file out of the entirety of those on the disc in question will change the checksum for the .iso image built from those files. But what I was hypothesizing was that there might be values in a .iso file that did not contribute to the contents of the disc written from that .iso (such as, e.g., a timestamp telling when the .iso was generated). In that case, you'd could have two different .iso files with different checksums even though the resulting discs made from them would be identical. But I should emphasize that I do not know anything about the details of the .iso format, so this is just a hunch, not a fact.
How, then, can I be sure that Terry and I got the exact same *content* (forget timestamps) that Terry got?
I don't know. I don't know that it's possible (or that it's not). Sorry.
(Note: I still haven't burned the image to DVD, since I was waiting for Terry's md5 report.)
Randall Schulz
On 19/08/05, Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:
How, then, can I be sure that Terry and I got the exact same *content* (forget timestamps) that Terry got?
I don't know. I don't know that it's possible (or that it's not). Sorry.
I suppose you could mount the image and checksum the contents. That would probably involve one MD5 sum for each file in the image though. If you both redirect to a file you can diff them. -- Paul
Friday 02 Sep 2005 15:59 samaye Paul Howie alekhiit:
How, then, can I be sure that Terry and I got the exact same *content* (forget timestamps) that Terry got?
I suppose you could mount the image and checksum the contents. That would probably involve one MD5 sum for each file in the image though. If you both redirect to a file you can diff them.
So how would I use the md5sum at a Konsole for this purpose? On Windows I can use > md5values.txt for this purpose. Will that work here? md5sum --help doesn't give any direct info on this. Can I use md5sum *.* or something like that? -- (o- Penguin #395953 lives at http://samvit.org //\ subsisting on ancient Indian wisdom ... V_/_ and modern computing efficiency! :)
* Shriramana Sharma <samjnaa@gmail.com> [09-04-05 08:21]:
So how would I use the md5sum at a Konsole for this purpose? On Windows I can use > md5values.txt for this purpose. Will that work here? md5sum --help doesn't give any direct info on this.
Can I use md5sum *.* or something like that?
md5sum --help man md5sum -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
Sunday 04 Sep 2005 19:25 samaye Patrick Shanahan alekhiit:
can use > md5values.txt for this purpose. Will that work here? md5sum --help doesn't give any direct info on this.
md5sum --help man md5sum
Note above. No direct info, and I've not yet gotten good at finding or inducting the indirect info in Linux. -- (o- Penguin #395953 lives at http://samvit.org //\ subsisting on ancient Indian wisdom ... V_/_ and modern computing efficiency! :)
* Shriramana Sharma <samjnaa@gmail.com> [09-04-05 09:21]:
Note above. No direct info, and I've not yet gotten good at finding or inducting the indirect info in Linux.
from the control line: md5sum <paths>/<file names> > md5values.txt will give a file with a listing of the md5 values of <file names>. the symbol '>' redirects output from standard out to a file/device, keyword 'redirect'. note: one way to learn is to try (in a *save* environment) to see if it will work another is to look on sites which teach linux/unix: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html this link should get you good, it has _much_ information. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
* Patrick Shanahan <ptilopteri@gmail.com> [09-04-05 10:18]:
note: one way to learn is to try (in a *save* environment) to see if it this should be "safe" \\\\
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Sunday 04 Sep 2005 20:45 samaye Patrick Shanahan alekhiit:
from the control line: md5sum <paths>/<file names> > md5values.txt
will give a file with a listing of the md5 values of <file names>.
Thanks Patrick.
another is to look on sites which teach linux/unix: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
A friend told me that tldp has a big tarball with all howto-s that I can download. Is it true? I was unable to locate such a thing on the tldp site. -- (o- Penguin #395953 lives at http://samvit.org //\ subsisting on ancient Indian wisdom ... V_/_ and modern computing efficiency! :)
* Shriramana Sharma <samjnaa@gmail.com> [09-04-05 10:33]:
A friend told me that tldp has a big tarball with all howto-s that I can download. Is it true? I was unable to locate such a thing on the tldp site.
Appears that you are really not looking very hard. The first page http://www.tldp.org/ lists HOTWOs http://www.tldp.org/docs.html#howto which gives EIGHT indexes to browse and FIVE to download -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
Sunday 04 Sep 2005 21:20 samaye Patrick Shanahan alekhiit:
Appears that you are really not looking very hard.
Sigh. Sign that I've been trying too hard to jump into Linux, and hence am suffocating as a result. I need a break. Sorry, guys, for troubling you, and thanks, Patrick and Jos, for the links. Sorry again for troubling you. broadcast message from brain this station shriramana will shutdown all legs, hands and eyes are instructed to term their processes Good night, guys. It's 2127 here in India now. Somewhat early for bed, but I'm sleepy... -- (o- Penguin #395953 lives at http://samvit.org //\ subsisting on ancient Indian wisdom ... V_/_ and modern computing efficiency! :)
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
A friend told me that tldp has a big tarball with all howto-s that I can download. Is it true? I was unable to locate such a thing on the tldp site.
Time to switch over to google then: "tldp all howtos" gives as second entry www.tldp.org/docs.html That doesn't look too difficult, huh? You can choose all sorts of format too except *.doc :-) -- Jos van Kan
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image.
# Now, create the ISO: mkisofs -o SuSE_9.3.iso
Is it possible for me to use the following command to mount the newly created ISO as the source DVD for Linux, and point YaST to this (see recent thread on "Install from HDD").
#mount SuSE_9.3.iso DVD -o loop
Or should I modify this command? I mean, I want to use my DVDRAM drive too. Will the above command prevent me from doing that? Do I also need to edit my fstab? -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space.
Having participated in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=104221 I received a pointer to http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CD which should do the trick for any iso files. I still have to give it a try... Patrick
Am I missing something? What's wrong with the DVD image they provide--am I about to find out...I'm in the middle (literally) of doing an install from it. Cheers, Simon --- Patriiiiiiiiiick <suse-linux-e@plah.be.tf> wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space.
Having participated in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=104221
I received a pointer to http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CD
which should do the trick for any iso files.
I still have to give it a try...
Patrick
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On Thursday 01 September 2005 10:45, Simon Roberts wrote:
Am I missing something? What's wrong with the DVD image they provide--am I about to find out...I'm in the middle (literally) of doing an install from it.
Cheers, Simon
--- Patriiiiiiiiiick <suse-linux-e@plah.be.tf> wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space.
Having participated in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=104221
I received a pointer to http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CD
which should do the trick for any iso files.
I still have to give it a try...
Patrick
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____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs I guess you are doing an X86-64 installation! It should not matter then! The dvd does not have the 32 bit version, the cd's have both 32 and 64 bit. (unless i understood backwards of course:)) d.
My 9.3 CD's had only 32 bit. My 9.3 DVD had 32 and 64 bit. I remember because we had to install the 64 bit using a USB DVD drive. I had a problem with 9.1 DVD's - When installing from DVD Apache with PHP just wouldn't run if I did not install X as well. Installing from CDs Apache with PHP worked like a charm without X. Albert -----Original Message----- From: kanenas [mailto:kanenas@hawaii.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 03:34 To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Converting 9.3 CD ISOs to a DVD ISO On Thursday 01 September 2005 10:45, Simon Roberts wrote:
Am I missing something? What's wrong with the DVD image they provide--am I about to find out...I'm in the middle (literally) of doing an install from it.
Cheers, Simon
--- Patriiiiiiiiiick <suse-linux-e@plah.be.tf> wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
I attach the script I got from a friend for converting the five downloadable CD ISO images to a single DVD ISO image. Run it on a partition with at least 4 GB free space.
Having participated in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=104221
I received a pointer to http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CD
which should do the trick for any iso files.
I still have to give it a try...
Patrick
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____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs I guess you are doing an X86-64 installation! It should not matter then! The
dvd does not have the 32 bit version, the cd's have both 32 and 64 bit. (unless i understood backwards of course:)) d. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 31/08/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 31/08/2005
On 01/09/05, Simon Roberts <thorpflyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
Am I missing something? What's wrong with the DVD image they provide--am I about to find out...I'm in the middle (literally) of doing an install from it.
Cheers, Simon
The DVD has the full 64 bit version and a reduced 32 bit version. The CDs contain the full 32 bit version. You can always ftp the missing packages afterwards with YaST if you find you need them. Mostly translations files and devel packages though. -- Paul
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Paul Howie <paulhowie@gmail.com> wrote:-
On 01/09/05, Simon Roberts <thorpflyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
Am I missing something? What's wrong with the DVD image they provide--am I about to find out...I'm in the middle (literally) of doing an install from it.
Cheers, Simon
The DVD has the full 64 bit version and a reduced 32 bit version. The CDs contain the full 32 bit version.
The DVD contains both the full 32 bit and 64 bit versions. The CDs contain a reduced 32 bit version. The list of the 32 bit files that are included on the DVD but aren't on the CDs is (still) available at: <URL:http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/diff_cd_dvd.html> Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 63 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ AMD 1800 1Gb WinXP/SuSE 9.3 | AMD 2400 160Mb SuSE 8.1 | AMD 2400 256Mb SuSE 9.0 AMD 1300 512Mb SuSE 9.0 | Falcon 14Mb TOS 4.02 | STE 4Mb TOS 1.62 RPC600 129Mb RISCOS 3.6 | A3010 4Mb RISCOS 3.11 | A4000 4Mb RISCOS 3.11
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