[opensuse] All This For Yelp??
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Hi, I was using Gnumeric for the first time in a long time and I wanted to view its help documentation, but when I tried to open it, I got an error alert proclaiming: Failed to execute child process "yelp" (No such file or directory) So I went to YaST Software Management to install yelp. To my considerable surprise, it entails the installation of quite a few packages that I cannot see as being legitimate dependencies for yelp. Unfortunately, there appears to be no way to export just a list corresponding to the "Installation Summary" view, so I took a snapshot and attached it. Is there any way (other than trial and error) to get a more minimal set of packages when installing yelp? Randall Schulz
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On 03/05/2009 05:25 AM, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I was using Gnumeric for the first time in a long time and I wanted to view its help documentation, but when I tried to open it, I got an error alert proclaiming:
Failed to execute child process "yelp" (No such file or directory)
So I went to YaST Software Management to install yelp. To my considerable surprise, it entails the installation of quite a few packages that I cannot see as being legitimate dependencies for yelp.
Unfortunately, there appears to be no way to export just a list corresponding to the "Installation Summary" view, so I took a snapshot and attached it.
Is there any way (other than trial and error) to get a more minimal set of packages when installing yelp?
Randall Schulz
It appears to me yelp must be a gnome application, and you must run KDE. Those dependencies look normal to me for running a gnome app while in KDE. IOW, I would guess that is already a minimal set. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Wednesday March 4 2009, Joe Morris wrote:
On 03/05/2009 05:25 AM, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
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So I went to YaST Software Management to install yelp. To my considerable surprise, it entails the installation of quite a few packages that I cannot see as being legitimate dependencies for yelp.
Unfortunately, there appears to be no way to export just a list corresponding to the "Installation Summary" view, so I took a snapshot and attached it.
Is there any way (other than trial and error) to get a more minimal set of packages when installing yelp?
It appears to me yelp must be a gnome application, and you must run KDE. Those dependencies look normal to me for running a gnome app while in KDE. IOW, I would guess that is already a minimal set.
Yes, I run KDE with a few Gnome applications. And yes, Yelp is "The Gnome 2.x Desktop Help Browser." But the last time I let a bunch of Gnome packages get installed (so I could run the Gnome control panel) I was sorry 'cause it messed up my screensaver. I had to painstakingly back each of those packages out (based on a screen capture just like the one I sent here). But really, why does Yelp require, e.g., Beagle, OpenLDAP and two weather library packages?
-- Joe Morris
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 15:49 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday March 4 2009, Joe Morris wrote:
It appears to me yelp must be a gnome application, and you must run KDE. Those dependencies look normal to me for running a gnome app while in KDE. IOW, I would guess that is already a minimal set.
That is so.
Yes, I run KDE with a few Gnome applications. And yes, Yelp is "The Gnome 2.x Desktop Help Browser."
But the last time I let a bunch of Gnome packages get installed (so I could run the Gnome control panel) I was sorry 'cause it messed up my screensaver. I had to painstakingly back each of those packages out (based on a screen capture just like the one I sent here).
In my 11.0, the screen-saver in gnome does not trigger, but that should not affect kde.
But really, why does Yelp require, e.g., Beagle, OpenLDAP and two weather library packages?
Maybe not "yelp" directly, but indirectly. I mean, yelp needs a minimal gnome, and something of that minimal gnome wants beagle, etc. About beagle, the easiest is to uninstall the engine, but leave the libraries. Beagle will not run and the apps have the dependencies satisfied. The help files are in xml format (below /usr/share/gnome/help/gnumeric/*). I wonder if there is a viewer you can use besides yelp :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmvIg0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U2FwCfYcTp2n+1jvkJ6ZOSl4Wbdbdo o6kAn1jZUCL+nvutaE+nnYfsEvhSs8Bj =gGtP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Wednesday March 4 2009, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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About beagle, the easiest is to uninstall the engine, but leave the libraries. Beagle will not run and the apps have the dependencies satisfied.
Yes, I did that long ago. I just don't want it creeping back in...
The help files are in xml format (below /usr/share/gnome/help/gnumeric/*). I wonder if there is a viewer you can use besides yelp :-?
Well, I went ahead and installed Yelp. It didn't require as many packages as the Gnome control panel did, so I'm hoping it won't have the negative side-effects. If it does, I'll have to back out yelp and its dependencies the way I did with the Gnome control panel.
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On Wednesday March 4 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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Well, I went ahead and installed Yelp. It didn't require as many packages as the Gnome control panel did, so I'm hoping it won't have the negative side-effects. If it does, I'll have to back out yelp and its dependencies the way I did with the Gnome control panel.
As I feared, when I open the KDE Desktop configuration, there are no screen savers shown. It's the same thing that happened the last time I tried installing Gnome packages. This is really annoying and, I'd say, unacceptable.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 17:02 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
As I feared, when I open the KDE Desktop configuration, there are no screen savers shown. It's the same thing that happened the last time I tried installing Gnome packages.
This is really annoying and, I'd say, unacceptable.
Where is that configuration? I opened the KDE control center (kde 3), but I can't find the screensaver configuration there. Where should it be? [...] Ah, I used the search box, and the screen saver configuration appeared. And yes, I can see the list of screen savers. So, if you can not see it, you have a local problem that should be solvable. (I have kde3, kde4, and gnome installed, all complete, in 11.0. The test I made for kde3 while running gnome). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmvKigACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V98wCgkfpl7KVxjOQ/CEkVLeXkVdID 49wAn2qAujxEH0Sk5fQAy1G7wxD9wU1e =OMEp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Wednesday March 4 2009, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 17:02 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
As I feared, when I open the KDE Desktop configuration, there are no screen savers shown. It's the same thing that happened the last time I tried installing Gnome packages.
This is really annoying and, I'd say, unacceptable.
Where is that configuration? I opened the KDE control center (kde 3), but I can't find the screensaver configuration there. Where should it be?
KDE Control Center (Personal Settings) (KDE 3.5) -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver
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Ah, I used the search box, and the screen saver configuration appeared. And yes, I can see the list of screen savers. So, if you can not see it, you have a local problem that should be solvable.
In principle, sure. But it has happened twice, and it was because I installed some Gnome packages. In the past I installed both Gnome and KDE, but this time, since the "patterns" business during installation does not accommodate installing both (everything I tried other than just picking the KDE 3.5 and changing nothing else left me with Gnome instead of KDE). And as I've stated, adding Gnome packages to my installed system causes this problem. And it's not the case that because your system doesn't exhibit this symptom that there's a problem with mine.
(I have kde3, kde4, and gnome installed, all complete, in 11.0. The test I made for kde3 while running gnome).
This is openSUSE 11.1, not 11.0.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 17:47 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
And it's not the case that because your system doesn't exhibit this symptom that there's a problem with mine.
I did not doubt you have a problem, only that it is not a generalized problem.
(I have kde3, kde4, and gnome installed, all complete, in 11.0. The test I made for kde3 while running gnome).
This is openSUSE 11.1, not 11.0.
Then I shut up. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmvOjgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Vd5ACgiBWz8ZzxIJ4OzCVNl8wh7y6E CEsAoIFuFPSgL9g5IVmhUn8BNFmb5Pv3 =gDro -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is openSUSE 11.1, not 11.0.
Then I shut up.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
You see, (umm, how shall I put this) Carlos is one of the wise ones... We got together and decided that Randall should be the one to continue the B6 testing on 11.1 for us ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
This is openSUSE 11.1, not 11.0.
Then I shut up.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
You see, (umm, how shall I put this) Carlos is one of the wise ones... We got together and decided that Randall should be the one to continue the B6 testing on 11.1 for us ;-)
My setup is not exactly the same as yours - I use kde4, but have had all three main DE's (KDE 3.5, 4.2 and gnome) installed at the same time on openSUSE 11.1. Can't say I've had a problem with the desktop patterns or my screensavers disappearing. Perhaps those two issues are linked? Dunno why or how though. Nkoli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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