[opensuse] LibreOffice 4.2
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from- https://www.libreoffice.org/ As this is a direct download from the authors you will, of course, need to install it yourself (with rpm -Uvh *.rpm) in each of the packages you download - READ the instructions in the Read.me(s). One thing to be aware of: if you are using KDE (like I am) then you will need to install using YaST- gnome-vfs2 (either 32- or 64-bit depending on your system) otherwise there will be a dependency error. (BTW, before installing LO from the above it is always best to remove the current installation of LO.) [A hint: after installing 4.2, reboot your system otherwise LO may not run when you click on the icon.] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ While I am on LO, does anyone know where, and the name of the file, LO keeps the darn Dictionary to which one adds new words?! (I use English GB, btw.) I am tired of having to start over again everytime I install the latest LO :-( . So, if anyone knows could you please let me know? Thanks. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/14 05:54, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on LO, does anyone know where, and the name of the file, LO keeps the darn Dictionary to which one adds new words?! (I use English GB, btw.)
I am tired of having to start over again everytime I install the latest LO :-( . So, if anyone knows could you please let me know? Thanks.
BC
I'm not running 4.x but is it not here? ~/.config/libreoffice/3-suse/user/wordbook/*.dic Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 09.02.2014 09:22, schrieb Peter:
On 09/02/14 05:54, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on LO, does anyone know where, and the name of the file, LO keeps the darn Dictionary to which one adds new words?! (I use English GB, btw.)
I am tired of having to start over again everytime I install the latest LO :-( . So, if anyone knows could you please let me know? Thanks.
BC
I'm not running 4.x but is it not here? ~/.config/libreoffice/3-suse/user/wordbook/*.dic
Peter
in my case it's here: ~/.config/libreoffice/4-suse/user/wordbook -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/14 21:01, Karl Sinn wrote:
Am 09.02.2014 09:22, schrieb Peter:
On 09/02/14 05:54, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on LO, does anyone know where, and the name of the file, LO keeps the darn Dictionary to which one adds new words?! (I use English GB, btw.)
I am tired of having to start over again everytime I install the latest LO :-( . So, if anyone knows could you please let me know? Thanks.
BC
I'm not running 4.x but is it not here? ~/.config/libreoffice/3-suse/user/wordbook/*.dic
Peter
in my case it's here: ~/.config/libreoffice/4-suse/user/wordbook
Thanks Karl and I shall make a copy of this file before I install the next version of LO and hope that this will solve my frustration :-) . BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/14 19:22, Peter wrote:
On 09/02/14 05:54, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on LO, does anyone know where, and the name of the file, LO keeps the darn Dictionary to which one adds new words?! (I use English GB, btw.)
I am tired of having to start over again everytime I install the latest LO :-( . So, if anyone knows could you please let me know? Thanks.
BC
I'm not running 4.x but is it not here? ~/.config/libreoffice/3-suse/user/wordbook/*.dic
Peter
Thanks Peter and one would think that this is where it is but I just checked the contents and many of additions I made as late as 2 days ago are not there. And in any case, it really should not matter if it is version 3 or 4 - the dictionary should remain from one version to the next and not begin "with a clean slate" when LO is upgraded. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/14 00:51, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 09/02/14 19:22, Peter wrote:
On 09/02/14 05:54, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on LO, does anyone know where, and the name of the file, LO keeps the darn Dictionary to which one adds new words?! (I use English GB, btw.)
I am tired of having to start over again everytime I install the latest LO :-( . So, if anyone knows could you please let me know? Thanks.
BC
I'm not running 4.x but is it not here? ~/.config/libreoffice/3-suse/user/wordbook/*.dic
Peter
Thanks Peter and one would think that this is where it is but I just checked the contents and many of additions I made as late as 2 days ago are not there.
And in any case, it really should not matter if it is version 3 or 4 - the dictionary should remain from one version to the next and not begin "with a clean slate" when LO is upgraded.
BC
I should have looked more closely because the dictionary is actually spelt out in Options>Paths and it points to ~./config/libreoffice/4/user/wordbook. BUT there is something missing in all of this because there are words in this 'dictionary' which are NOT recognised in a document which I just opened and are therefore considered as spelling errors. The directory '......./wordbook' contains the actual dictionary file which is called 'standard.dic' and perhaps this is what is missing from the path in Options but I cannot see a way of adding this file name. The other thing, in the Options>Paths there is the ability to select DEFAULT for any item but when one selects DEFAULT for the path of .....wordbook the path changes to a directory where LO is actually installed (/opt/..........). I'll have to contact the people at LO re this unless someone here has already found the solution to why the standard.dic does not recognise words in a document when those words had previously been added to the dictionary. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/08/2014 11:54 PM, Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
As this is a direct download from the authors you will, of course, need to install it yourself (with rpm -Uvh *.rpm) in each of the packages you download - READ the instructions in the Read.me(s).
Or use zypper in *.rpm which will also install any dependencies. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/14 23:44, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 02/08/2014 11:54 PM, Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
As this is a direct download from the authors you will, of course, need to install it yourself (with rpm -Uvh *.rpm) in each of the packages you download - READ the instructions in the Read.me(s).
Or use zypper in *.rpm which will also install any dependencies.
You mean run 'zypper in *.rpm' in the directory containing the rpms of the unarchived tar file (rather than running 'rpm -Uvh *.rpm'? BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-09-14 09:04]: [...]
You mean run 'zypper in *.rpm' in the directory containing the rpms of the unarchived tar file (rather than running 'rpm -Uvh *.rpm'?
Yes he does. rpm -Uvh.... will just complain about missing packages. zypper will go get them if they exist in the repos you have enabled. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/14 01:47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-09-14 09:04]: [...]
You mean run 'zypper in *.rpm' in the directory containing the rpms of the unarchived tar file (rather than running 'rpm -Uvh *.rpm'? Yes he does. rpm -Uvh.... will just complain about missing packages. zypper will go get them if they exist in the repos you have enabled.
Thank you Patrick. The zypper way is what I shall use the next time :-) . BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-) Any idea when it will be in the repos? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [02-09-14 14:45]:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_Tumb... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13.1... it's only a matter of looking. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Any idea when it will be in the repos? http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_Tumb...
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13.1...
I see it requires "vendor change" to install. Why is that? Also, the extensions do not seem to be available. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-09 21:12, James Knott wrote:
I see it requires "vendor change" to install. Why is that?
Because it is a factory repo. If you don't, the update channel would insist on replacing it again. Just a guess. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlL36YYACgkQja8UbcUWM1wj2QD+K2ulZFYABOm/VWs87SUS/bEk FrqNv11IXu7OPvo/p6cBAIEN+1TPjjfzwkhHBI5NMRfCk5ck1pXdSstkdl4D8tKF =Yum7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos? None.
BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:22:25 AM Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
None.
BC Its in the following repo now: CODE
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13.1... ---------- I just downloaded it and installed it. Will be test a litle later today. Russ -- openSUSE 13.1(Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop x86_64| Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz|8GB DDR3| GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38)|KDE 4.12.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 10 Feb 2014 09:35:42 upscope wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:22:25 AM Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
None.
BC
Its in the following repo now: CODE ---------- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13. 1/ ---------- I just downloaded it and installed it. Will be test a litle later today.
Russ How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
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ianseeks wrote:
How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
I clicked on the link, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]:
On Monday 10 Feb 2014 09:35:42 upscope wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:22:25 AM Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
None.
BC
Its in the following repo now: CODE ---------- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13. 1/ ---------- I just downloaded it and installed it. Will be test a litle later today.
Russ How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true". Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-11 19:40, Werner Flamme wrote:
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up",
Warning: an unrestricted "zypper dup" is dangerous. Depending on the current repository mix, it can even destroy the system. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlL6irwACgkQja8UbcUWM1xvjQD+LoPS2b/aQjnUaiW9gZRmnIQH 5mVHUCO0RJoPcz9qSGMA/1iiwpX3gVP4BI8+11/4/dXJZD9EduGAl6GuyUF2nfzP =FwjM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. [11.02.2014 21:40]:
On 2014-02-11 19:40, Werner Flamme wrote:
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up",
Warning: an unrestricted "zypper dup" is dangerous. Depending on the current repository mix, it can even destroy the system.
Very true. Maybe one should use "zypper dup --from <LO-repo>" here, as described in zypper's man page. Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 Feb 2014 19:40:44 Werner Flamme wrote:
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]:
On Monday 10 Feb 2014 09:35:42 upscope wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:22:25 AM Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
None.
BC
Its in the following repo now: CODE ----------
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_ 13.
1/ ---------- I just downloaded it and installed it. Will be test a litle later today.
Russ
How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true".
Werner I've tried "zypper up" and zypper dup", all "dup" wants to do is downgrade my version of opera. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[12.02.2014 12:40] [ianseeks]:
On Tuesday 11 Feb 2014 19:40:44 Werner Flamme wrote:
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]:
How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true".
Werner I've tried "zypper up" and zypper dup", all "dup" wants to do is downgrade my version of opera.
And "zypper se -s -r <the LO-Factory-repo>" really shows version 4.2? Then there must be an unmet dependency, but I cannot guess which. puzzled, Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 19:00:24 Werner Flamme wrote:
[12.02.2014 12:40] [ianseeks]:
On Tuesday 11 Feb 2014 19:40:44 Werner Flamme wrote:
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]:
How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true".
Werner
I've tried "zypper up" and zypper dup", all "dup" wants to do is downgrade my version of opera.
And "zypper se -s -r <the LO-Factory-repo>" really shows version 4.2? Then there must be an unmet dependency, but I cannot guess which.
puzzled, Werner
me puzzled too here's an excerpt using that command v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | x86_64 | LibreOffice v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | i586 | LibreOffice v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | x86_64 | LibreOffice v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | i586 | LibreOffice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[12.02.2014 19:29] [ianseeks]:
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 19:00:24 Werner Flamme wrote:
[12.02.2014 12:40] [ianseeks]:
On Tuesday 11 Feb 2014 19:40:44 Werner Flamme wrote:
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]:
How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true".
Werner
I've tried "zypper up" and zypper dup", all "dup" wants to do is downgrade my version of opera.
And "zypper se -s -r <the LO-Factory-repo>" really shows version 4.2? Then there must be an unmet dependency, but I cannot guess which.
puzzled, Werner
me puzzled too here's an excerpt using that command
v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | x86_64 | LibreOffice v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | i586 | LibreOffice v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | x86_64 | LibreOffice v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1 | i586 | LibreOffice
And "zypper in libreoffice-calc-4.2.0.4-117.1" does not work either? Did you lock your currenty version of LO in YaST? Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 20:11:07 Werner Flamme wrote:
[12.02.2014 19:29] [ianseeks]:
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 19:00:24 Werner Flamme wrote:
[12.02.2014 12:40] [ianseeks]:
On Tuesday 11 Feb 2014 19:40:44 Werner Flamme wrote:
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]:
How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to the Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper or YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true".
Werner
I've tried "zypper up" and zypper dup", all "dup" wants to do is downgrade my version of opera.
And "zypper se -s -r <the LO-Factory-repo>" really shows version 4.2? Then there must be an unmet dependency, but I cannot guess which.
puzzled, Werner
me puzzled too here's an excerpt using that command
v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| x86_64 | LibreOffice
v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| i586 | LibreOffice
v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| x86_64 | LibreOffice
v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| i586 | LibreOffice
And "zypper in libreoffice-calc-4.2.0.4-117.1" does not work either? Did you lock your currenty version of LO in YaST? I've not tried to install any part by itself, i prefer the whole lot to be installed. How do you lock a version in Yast? I've not done locked it as far as i know, certainly not on purpose.
Here's what i get from "zypper up" - it seems to think there is something to install but it doesn;t do it and nor does "zypper dup" zypper up Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... The following 20 package updates will NOT be installed: kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE kdm-branding-openSUSE libreoffice libreoffice- base libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql libreoffice-calc libreoffice-calc- extensions libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filters-optional libreoffice-icon-theme-crystal libreoffice-icon-theme-galaxy libreoffice- icon-theme-hicontrast libreoffice-icon-theme-oxygen libreoffice-impress libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-writer libreoffice-writer-extensions Nothing to do.
Werner
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On 02/13/2014 12:16 PM, ianseeks pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 20:11:07 Werner Flamme wrote:
[12.02.2014 19:29] [ianseeks]:
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2014 19:00:24 Werner Flamme wrote:
[12.02.2014 12:40] [ianseeks]:
On Tuesday 11 Feb 2014 19:40:44 Werner Flamme wrote:
[11.02.2014 15:15] [ianseeks]: > How did you manage to force it to download? I've had mine set to > the > Factory repos for days now and it hasn't downloaded 4.2 via zypper > or > YasT. Yast reports it as 4.1 installed and available.
If it's from another repo, YaST and zypper see it as a "vendor change", which is disabled by default. Either you use "zypper dup" instead of "zypper up", or you use YaST -> Software Management -> View -> Repositories -> (the LO-Factory-repo) -> in the green bar near the top of the right window "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository", or you change /etc/zypp/zypp.conf to contain a line "solver.allowVendorChange = true".
Werner
I've tried "zypper up" and zypper dup", all "dup" wants to do is downgrade my version of opera.
And "zypper se -s -r <the LO-Factory-repo>" really shows version 4.2? Then there must be an unmet dependency, but I cannot guess which.
puzzled, Werner
me puzzled too here's an excerpt using that command
v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| x86_64 | LibreOffice
v | libreoffice-calc | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| i586 | LibreOffice
v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| x86_64 | LibreOffice
v | libreoffice-calc-extensions | package | 4.2.0.4-117.1
| i586 | LibreOffice
And "zypper in libreoffice-calc-4.2.0.4-117.1" does not work either? Did you lock your currenty version of LO in YaST? I've not tried to install any part by itself, i prefer the whole lot to be installed. How do you lock a version in Yast? I've not done locked it as far as i know, certainly not on purpose.
Here's what i get from "zypper up" - it seems to think there is something to install but it doesn;t do it and nor does "zypper dup" zypper up Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
The following 20 package updates will NOT be installed: kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE kdm-branding-openSUSE libreoffice libreoffice- base libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql libreoffice-calc libreoffice-calc- extensions libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filters-optional libreoffice-icon-theme-crystal libreoffice-icon-theme-galaxy libreoffice- icon-theme-hicontrast libreoffice-icon-theme-oxygen libreoffice-impress libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-writer libreoffice-writer-extensions
Nothing to do.
Werner
Ian
The most likely reason for the 20 packages that will not be install is because they are from a different repo. You can test this with: zypper in libreoffice or by using any of the 20 in the list. This will most likely result in a message back that there is an update available but from a different vendor (repo). -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> [02-13-14 17:05]: [...]
The most likely reason for the 20 packages that will not be install is because they are from a different repo. You can test this with:
zypper in libreoffice
or by using any of the 20 in the list. This will most likely result in a message back that there is an update available but from a different vendor (repo).
or, if you really want to know what is going on: zypper -v in libreoffice zypper -vv in libreoffice -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> [02-13-14 17:05]: [...]
The most likely reason for the 20 packages that will not be install is because they are from a different repo. You can test this with:
zypper in libreoffice
or by using any of the 20 in the list. This will most likely result in a message back that there is an update available but from a different vendor (repo).
or, if you really want to know what is going on: zypper -v in libreoffice
On Thursday 13 Feb 2014 17:28:19 Patrick Shanahan wrote: that showed it requires vendor change that someone else had suggested earlier
zypper -vv in libreoffice Went to Yast/Softwaremanagement/Options and selected "Allow Vendor change" and its now installed
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On 02/15/2014 06:53 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Went to Yast/Softwaremanagement/Options and selected "Allow Vendor change" and its now installed
OUCH! Too 'global'. The man page for zypper mentions "-f" -f, --force Install even if the item is already installed (reinstall), downgraded or changes vendor or architecture. But for the one-off. Of course you would also limit to the repo .... -- The real leader has no need to lead - he is content to point the way. - Henry Miller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
No that is not too global. This is the preferred way. First, you only have to have vendor change enabled once. Select only those you need to get from the new vender, and update only those. Then turn allow vendor changes off, and leave it off.
From there on, those packages from the newly allowed vender will be updated from that repository. But no additional package will migrate to the new vendor.
I don't think using force is ever advisable. Even if you THINK you know what you're doing. That induces things that can haunt you for months. On 15 February, 2014 8:25:18 AM PST, Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> wrote:
On 02/15/2014 06:53 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Went to Yast/Softwaremanagement/Options and selected "Allow Vendor change" and its now installed
OUCH! Too 'global'.
The man page for zypper mentions "-f"
-f, --force Install even if the item is already installed (reinstall), downgraded or changes vendor or architecture.
But for the one-off.
Of course you would also limit to the repo ....
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On 02/15/2014 12:46 PM, John Andersen wrote:
No that is not too global. This is the preferred way.
First, you only have to have vendor change enabled once.
Select only those you need to get from the new vender, and update only those.
Then turn allow vendor changes off, and leave it off.
From there on, those packages from the newly allowed vender will be updated from that repository. But no additional package will migrate to the new vendor.
I don't think using force is ever advisable. Even if you THINK you know what you're doing. That induces things that can haunt you for months.
Turn it on ... Turn it off .... That's what "-f" does for you.... Just in case you forget to turn it off for any one of a number of reasons. If you believe there are "induced things" --- side effects ? --- then please make them clear, convince us with evidence, testable examples, rather than fear-mongering. -- Lead and inspire people. Don't try to manage and manipulate people. Inventories can be managed but people must be lead. - Ross Perot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 01:29 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 12:46 PM, John Andersen wrote:
No that is not too global. This is the preferred way.
First, you only have to have vendor change enabled once.
Select only those you need to get from the new vender, and update only those.
Then turn allow vendor changes off, and leave it off.
From there on, those packages from the newly allowed vender will be updated from that repository. But no additional package will migrate to the new vendor.
I don't think using force is ever advisable. Even if you THINK you know what you're doing. That induces things that can haunt you for months.
Turn it on ... Turn it off ....
That's what "-f" does for you....
No it does not, -f means to "force" the install even if it is a stupid idea. Better to use: Command options: --from <alias|#|URI> Select packages from the specified repository. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 02:01 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Better to use:
Command options: --from <alias|#|URI> Select packages from the specified repository.
Didn't I say
Of course you would also limit to the repo ....
Perhaps I should have been more explicit... As you have done. -- The only real training for leadership is leadership. - Antony Jay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 03:55 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 02:01 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Better to use:
Command options: --from <alias|#|URI> Select packages from the specified repository.
Didn't I say
Of course you would also limit to the repo ....
Perhaps I should have been more explicit... As you have done.
With --from you don't need to specify individual packages to install, you only need specify the repo. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 04:42 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 02/15/2014 03:55 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 02:01 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Better to use:
Command options: --from <alias|#|URI> Select packages from the specified repository.
Didn't I say
Of course you would also limit to the repo ....
Perhaps I should have been more explicit... As you have done.
With --from you don't need to specify individual packages to install, you only need specify the repo.
Now that strikes me as a high risk situation. The normal 'zypper up' will tell you what its not going to install, but if I don't want most of those then I had damn well better specify the ONLY one(s) I do want. The "--force" does that, the "--from", as you point out, does not. It brings in things other than the one, the only one, I want. Jon talked about "induced things", what I termed 'unintended side effects'. Using "--from" is a sure way to 'induce' other things to be installed. -- People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives. - Theodore Roosevelt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 10:02 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 04:42 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 02/15/2014 03:55 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 02:01 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Better to use:
Command options: --from <alias|#|URI> Select packages from the specified repository.
Didn't I say
Of course you would also limit to the repo ....
Perhaps I should have been more explicit... As you have done.
With --from you don't need to specify individual packages to install, you only need specify the repo.
Now that strikes me as a high risk situation.
How can it be any more high risk then -f? If you want packages updated from a specific repo then you will know in advance that it will switch vendor and prompt you *before* proceding with the upgrade.
The normal 'zypper up' will tell you what its not going to install, but if I don't want most of those then I had damn well better specify the ONLY one(s) I do want. The "--force" does that, the "--from", as you point out, does not. It brings in things other than the one, the only one, I want.
No it doesn't. you can still specify an individual package if you so choose. zypper (as far back as I can remember) has always accepted a specific package name as the one to install. Have you ever used: zypper in --help zypper in <some_package_name> to get further help when using zypper? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 11:17 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 02/15/2014 10:02 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 04:42 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 02/15/2014 03:55 PM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 02/15/2014 02:01 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Better to use:
Command options: --from <alias|#|URI> Select packages from the specified repository.
Didn't I say
Of course you would also limit to the repo ....
Perhaps I should have been more explicit... As you have done.
With --from you don't need to specify individual packages to install, you only need specify the repo.
Now that strikes me as a high risk situation.
How can it be any more high risk then -f? If you want packages updated from a specific repo then you will know in advance that it will switch vendor and prompt you *before* proceding with the upgrade.
The normal 'zypper up' will tell you what its not going to install, but if I don't want most of those then I had damn well better specify the ONLY one(s) I do want. The "--force" does that, the "--from", as you point out, does not. It brings in things other than the one, the only one, I want.
No it doesn't. you can still specify an individual package if you so choose. Zypper (as far back as I can remember) has always accepted a specific package name as the one to install. Have you ever used:
zypper in --help zypper in <some_package_name>
to get further help when using zypper?
I take it the "haven't you" refers to me. So long as this thread refers to careful and deliberate people like you and John and me, then we are arguing against each other pointlessly. The operative word here is 'careful'. The evidence of this list is that not everyone is careful about everything all the time. Sometimes I'm not careful about running a spell check before posting. My bad. Sometimes I'm not careful about backing up. OUCH! We're none of us perfect, and some of us are less perfect in some areas than other areas. Hopefully we learn from the experience of others. I've learnt enough to have never ever had a rpm-hell. Read back to my description of how I use "--force". Compare that with John's "anything". Some people might call my way of installing using BOTH "--force" *and* "--from" *and* specifying the exact revision of the package a 'belt and braces' approach. There's no question of 'finger trouble' such as a 'bounce' of the return key. If I mistype _anything_ there is a FAIL. I've watched others play 'loose and free' with configuration and set up; there are many 'evils' of Linux that, for example, immigrants from MS-Windows might practice such as running as root all the time, opening up permissions. You know the stuff[1]. Like turning on 'change vendor' and either forgetting to turn it off, for any number of reasons, or deliberately leaving it on because of the 'hassle' zypper presents .... So, you don't do that, John doesn't do that, and I don't do that. Great. Lets hope the noise of this thread alerts other people to the risk of RPM-hell that can arise if you don't pay attention to these kinds of details. [1] There's a reason for restrictive permissions, for AppArmor and keeping logs and ... -- People in general are not interested in paying extra for increased safety. At the beginning seat belts cost $200 and nobody bought them. -- Gene Spafford -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/15/2014 10:29 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
If you believe there are "induced things" --- side effects ? --- then please make them clear, convince us with evidence, testable examples, rather than fear-mongering.
You mean like this sort of fear mongering:
OUCH! Too 'global'.
zypper --force can have unwanted side effects, just like rpm --force zypper -f is exactly the same as rpm --force. Your own quote of the man page shows this (did you even read it?)
-f, --force Install even if the item is already installed (reinstall), downgraded or changes vendor or architecture.
In my view architecture is a pretty big risk. Plus -f eliminates any warning about a library or file from the new repository being incompatible with existing (and often unrelated) packages using the same library. Vendor change preserves these warnings. And no, Anton, I'm not going to find you a test case. Feel free to do your own destructive testing regime. I never use -f or --force if there is any way to avoid it, its the quickest route to rpm-hell. I've been there and I'm not going back. Suggesting using --force blindly on a mailing list is irresponsible, especially when allow vender change was put into yast for precisely this type of scenario. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2014 02:15 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 2/15/2014 10:29 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
If you believe there are "induced things" --- side effects ? --- then please make them clear, convince us with evidence, testable examples, rather than fear-mongering.
You mean like this sort of fear mongering:
OUCH! Too 'global'.
zypper --force can have unwanted side effects, just like rpm --force zypper -f is exactly the same as rpm --force.
Your own quote of the man page shows this (did you even read it?)
-f, --force Install even if the item is already installed (reinstall), downgraded or changes vendor or architecture.
In my view architecture is a pretty big risk.
Oh, I agree! But that begs the question: why do you have a repository for a different architecture active? Oh, right, this is software, this is FOSS and you can do anything you damn well please! Well I don't! I can't understand why one might, certainly I can't imagine why I might! Lets look at how *I* use "-f" I run 'zypper up' and it tells me that various packages aren't going to be loaded. Priority, vendor ... Something. So I run zypper info and stuff and find out what is installed and why it isn't going to be installed. Then and only then and only IF there is some reason for installing that version I use the "-f" and I specify the full revision, not just the base package name. I specify EXACTLY what I want installed. EXACTLY!
Plus -f eliminates any warning about a library or file from the new repository being incompatible with existing (and often unrelated) packages using the same library. Vendor change preserves these warnings.
That differs from my experience.
And no, Anton, I'm not going to find you a test case. Feel free to do your own destructive testing regime. I never use -f or --force if there is any way to avoid it, its the quickest route to rpm-hell. I've been there and I'm not going back.
It is uncontrolled and unconsidered use that leads to RPM hell. I've not ended up there the way *I* use "-f". And I don't think that such avoidance is pure luck. When I've used the "-f" to do a very specific 'change vendor' type of operation it has been very specifi and very researched.
Suggesting using --force blindly on a mailing list is irresponsible, especially when allow vender change was put into yast for precisely this type of scenario.
What's with this "using --force blindly" nonsense? I'm suggesting it using it in a highly constrained and focused and considered manner. One might wonder why the "--force" was there in the first place if not to do exactly what I have done with it in the highly constrained circumstances I'm talking about. One might also say that doing the 'change vendor' your way is also risk as the user might forget, for any one of a number reasons/distractions, to change it back. The point here is that any tool can be abused. A sharp knife can cut what you want but can also cut in ways you don't want if you don't take care. Once again, I wonder why you would have active repositories for other architectures? That seems a risky thing to do anyway. -- Leadership is understanding people and involving them to help you do a job. That takes all of the good characteristics, like integrity, dedication of purpose, selflessness, knowledge, skill, implacability, as well as determination not to accept failure. - Admiral Arleigh A. Burke -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [02-15-14 15:55]: [...]
Lets look at how *I* use "-f"
I run 'zypper up' and it tells me that various packages aren't going to be loaded. Priority, vendor ... Something.
So I run zypper info and stuff and find out what is installed and why it isn't going to be installed.
Then and only then and only IF there is some reason for installing that version I use the "-f" and I specify the full revision, not just the base package name. I specify EXACTLY what I want installed. EXACTLY!
[...] "--force" is even necessary for reinstalling a package of the same version. And suggested by zypper. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/02/14 09:00, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [02-15-14 15:55]: [...]
Lets look at how *I* use "-f"
I run 'zypper up' and it tells me that various packages aren't going to be loaded. Priority, vendor ... Something.
So I run zypper info and stuff and find out what is installed and why it isn't going to be installed.
Then and only then and only IF there is some reason for installing that version I use the "-f" and I specify the full revision, not just the base package name. I specify EXACTLY what I want installed. EXACTLY! [...]
"--force" is even necessary for reinstalling a package of the same version. And suggested by zypper.
OK, so by me mentioning that LO 4.2 is available I started an avalanche...... But there is a small serious side-effect of installing LO directly from the source (libreoffice.org). When you click on Gecko["Start"]>Recently Used and then right-click on an entry (bottom part) and select Clear Recent Documents the documents are NOT deleted from that list of recently used documents. They DO disappear at the time when you perform the above but the next time you boot the system the list will re-appear. So, if you are trying to hide some billets-doux to your amour from your wife/husband (of either sex, to be politically correct naturally) then you are in trouble :-) . Reason for this is that LO from LO.org puts the viewed files in ~.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments and NOT ~.kde4/............. Just thought that I would let you know....... BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/16/2014 01:07 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Reason for this is that LO from LO.org puts the viewed files in ~.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments and NOT ~.kde4/.............
You could symlink one directory to the other ... -- The methods that will most effectively minimize the ability of intruders to compromise information security are comprehensive user training and education. Enacting policies and procedures simply won't suffice. Even with oversight the policies and procedures may not be effective: my access to Motorola, Nokia, ATT, Sun depended upon the willingness of people to bypass policies and procedures that were in place for years before I compromised them successfully -- Kevin Mitnick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/02/14 23:10, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 02/16/2014 01:07 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Reason for this is that LO from LO.org puts the viewed files in ~.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments and NOT ~.kde4/.............
You could symlink one directory to the other ...
Yep, this has been done but my post was to warn others about being caught out by one's "better half" :-) . While I am on this subject, there is another directory which needs paying attention to for those who are "security" conscious: the directory is ~/.thumbnails Look for yourself to see what is in there. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/02/14 08:00, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on this subject, there is another directory which needs paying attention to for those who are "security" conscious: the directory is
~/.thumbnails
Look for yourself to see what is in there.
BC
And don't ever try to delete contents of that directory whilst simultaneously viewing them with Dolphin / Konqueror in Preview Mode. You will become stuck in an inexhaustible loop of despair, where every deleted thumbnail will have become recreated at the moment of selecting it for deletion. In this circumstance, use the command line, or turn off both tooltips and image previews in Dolphin / Konqueror. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/02/14 20:59, Peter wrote:
On 17/02/14 08:00, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on this subject, there is another directory which needs paying attention to for those who are "security" conscious: the directory is
~/.thumbnails
Look for yourself to see what is in there.
BC
And don't ever try to delete contents of that directory whilst simultaneously viewing them with Dolphin / Konqueror in Preview Mode. You will become stuck in an inexhaustible loop of despair, where every deleted thumbnail will have become recreated at the moment of selecting it for deletion. In this circumstance, use the command line, or turn off both tooltips and image previews in Dolphin / Konqueror.
Peter
I have never tried to delete the thumbnails while using Dolphin so will take your word for the consequences. To delete them I always use mc, select all the files in each category using the '+' option and then pressing F8. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/17/2014 02:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
While I am on this subject, there is another directory which needs paying attention to for those who are "security" conscious: the directory is
~/.thumbnails
Look for yourself to see what is in there.
This, as well as some caches, are on my exclude-list for doing backups, be it using rsync or backing up to DVD. -- Processes don't do work, people do. - John Seely Brown -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, February 10, 2014 09:35:42 AM upscope wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:22:25 AM Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
None.
BC
Its in the following repo now: CODE ---------- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSU SE_13.1/ ---------- I just downloaded it and installed it. Will be test a litle later today.
Russ I had 4.1 downloading from standard repos. I just raised the priority to 98 and it still did what you see so I disabled the libreoffice repo I was using for 4.1.
I rebooted my system this morning and every time I tried to start writer or calc, I got the following error: QUOTE ---------- LibreOffice Fatal Error 4.2 The application cannot be started. The user interface language cannot be determined, -------- I appear to have same files installed as 4.1 but they were version 4.2.0.4-117.1. Since I needed to get some work done today I reinstalled 4.1 and it works fine. I just enabled the repo again and it shows the 4.1 installed and 4.2 available. Will try again soon? Will try again encase download was bad. Russ openSUSE 13.1(Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop x86_64| Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz|8GB DDR3| GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38)|KDE 4.12.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 03:51:44 PM upscope wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 09:35:42 AM upscope wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:22:25 AM Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/02/14 06:44, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
To those who may not be aware LibreOffice 4.2 is now available and can be downloaded from-
Where can it be downloaded from, if we are aware? ;-)
Just follow the prompts on that web page -ie, click on 'Download LO Now' and then click on Change Language under the 2 green 'boxes' and select English GB (towards the end of the list).
Any idea when it will be in the repos?
None.
BC
Its in the following repo now: CODE ----------
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/open SU
SE_13.1/ ---------- I just downloaded it and installed it. Will be test a litle later today.
Russ
I had 4.1 downloading from standard repos. I just raised the priority to 98 and it still did what you see so I disabled the libreoffice repo I was using for 4.1.
I rebooted my system this morning and every time I tried to start writer or calc, I got the following error:
QUOTE ---------- LibreOffice Fatal Error 4.2 The application cannot be started. The user interface language cannot be determined, -------- I appear to have same files installed as 4.1 but they were version 4.2.0.4-117.1. Since I needed to get some work done today I reinstalled 4.1 and it works fine. I just enabled the repo again and it shows the 4.1 installed and 4.2 available. Will try again soon? Will try again encase download was bad.
Russ openSUSE 13.1(Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop x86_64| Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz|8GB DDR3| GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38)|KDE 4.12.2 I just reinstalled it, get same error. How do I tell what is missing when thats the only error. I using YaST to install and it says no dependence issues.
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