[opensuse] TW downgrades
Hi List doing the 'zypper dup' on my TW laptop today presented me 7 downgrades: The following 7 packages are going to be downgraded: gdk-pixbuf-devel gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-32bit gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0 libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0-32bit typelib-1_0-GdkPixbuf-2_0 All those packages came from the normal TW repo, about a week ago, but now no longer are in there - that's why zypper reports them as (System Packages) I haven't seen notifications about this change - are they not announced anywhere, and why does it happen in first place? Security? Stability? Just curious... (Postig this to 'normal' OS list on purpose, as suggested in some recent discussions - this is a 'simple user question'(?)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-07-26 14:10, Peter Suetterlin wrote:
Hi List
doing the 'zypper dup' on my TW laptop today presented me 7 downgrades:
The following 7 packages are going to be downgraded: gdk-pixbuf-devel gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-32bit gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0 libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0-32bit typelib-1_0-GdkPixbuf-2_0
All those packages came from the normal TW repo, about a week ago, but now no longer are in there - that's why zypper reports them as (System Packages)
I haven't seen notifications about this change - are they not announced anywhere, and why does it happen in first place? Security? Stability?
Just curious...
(Postig this to 'normal' OS list on purpose, as suggested in some recent discussions - this is a 'simple user question'(?))
IMO, this is the type of question that you have to ask on factory mail list, because it is very specific to TW. Only devs will know if they changed something in this respect. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Carlos E. R. wrote:
IMO, this is the type of question that you have to ask on factory mail list, because it is very specific to TW. Only devs will know if they changed something in this respect.
Well, it was a 50:50 choice. So following Murphy a 100% chance to pick the wrong one :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 26 July 2017 at 14:41, Peter Suetterlin <P.Suetterlin@royac.iac.es> wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
IMO, this is the type of question that you have to ask on factory mail list, because it is very specific to TW. Only devs will know if they changed something in this respect.
Well, it was a 50:50 choice. So following Murphy a 100% chance to pick the wrong one :D
I think you chose the right one, Carlos thinks otherwise, it's still 50:50 ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 26 July 2017 at 14:10, Peter Suetterlin <P.Suetterlin@royac.iac.es> wrote:
Hi List
doing the 'zypper dup' on my TW laptop today presented me 7 downgrades:
The following 7 packages are going to be downgraded: gdk-pixbuf-devel gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-32bit gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0 libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0-32bit typelib-1_0-GdkPixbuf-2_0
All those packages came from the normal TW repo, about a week ago, but now no longer are in there - that's why zypper reports them as (System Packages)
I haven't seen notifications about this change - are they not announced anywhere, and why does it happen in first place? Security? Stability?
Just curious...
(Postig this to 'normal' OS list on purpose, as suggested in some recent discussions - this is a 'simple user question'(?))
Downgrades are typically fine and shouldn't be worried about - packages, and upstreams repeatedly change their version numbering and zypper will recognise that as a 'downgrade' when the number decreases, even if in reality it's a later version. I think that is the likely explanation for this problem - for the exact one, you could parse all of the Tumbleweed snapshot announcements for the packages involved which will include the description of what version was 'upgraded' to what new version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Richard Brown wrote:
Downgrades are typically fine and shouldn't be worried about - packages, and upstreams repeatedly change their version numbering and zypper will recognise that as a 'downgrade' when the number decreases, even if in reality it's a later version.
I knew that from the Xorg case. But here it was a change back in release numbers, e.g., from 2.36.6-4.1 to 2.36.6-3.1 Plus, I had aborted the update to write the mail, then started it again - and now zypper couldn't find the old package on the server either. So I wonder if this might be a race condition with metadata coming from one mirror and package data from another one, when they are not (yet) in sync? I ran zypper ref again (i.e., only a few minutes later), and get a quite different list of updates now (though the downgrades are still in) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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