BandiPat
I am hoping you can clear a couple of things up for me. If you feel this should be on the SuSE list, please feel free to post your reply there for everyone.
I keep seeing things about the file "fontconfig" and how Gnome2 uses it with Xft2 to better display and handle the fonts there. I also notice that you are maintaining that package for SuSE, so I am guessing it is important to the Gnome2 development.
In trying to install your rpms (fontconfig & fontconfig-devel), I, of course, ran into a few complaints from rpm, mostly dealing with conflicts in XFree86 4.3 and -devel files already installed. I can send details if you need.
Yes, some more details are necessary. On SuSE Linux 8.2, fontconfig was already part of XFree86. On SuSE Linux 8.3 it will be a seperate package. Therefore, if you want to install the newer fontconfig packages from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/ they conflict with parts of the XFree86 packages and you have to install them with "rpm --force".
So what's the story? Do your added programs, such as fontconfig-config and XFree86 4.3 and freetype2 take care of all that stuff already or will the fontconfig programs need to be used as Gnome2 moves forward?
You need the updated fontconfig packages from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/ only if you need newer features of fontconfig which were not yet available in the fontconfig which was released as part of XFree86 4.3.0.
I am not having problems with fonts presently in either Gnome2 or KDE, but was trying to find some files to update Gnome2 items, like Gtk2 and Pango and others. During the search, fontconfig seem to come up a lot. Oh, you don't know if anyone will be providing updated SuSE Gnome2 binaries, do you?
Yes, we are working on that, but it will take a bit more time.
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Mike Fabian
On Wednesday 11 June 2003 04:56, Mike FABIAN wrote:
In trying to install your rpms (fontconfig & fontconfig-devel), I, of course, ran into a few complaints from rpm, mostly dealing with conflicts in XFree86 4.3 and -devel files already installed. I can send details if you need.
Yes, some more details are necessary. ---------------------------details: file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package xf86tools-0.1-537 file /etc/fonts/fonts.dtd from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/bin/fc-cache from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/bin/fc-list from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-libs-4.3.0-42 file /usr/X11R6/include/fontconfig/fcfreetype.h from install of fontconfig-devel-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-devel-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/include/fontconfig/fcprivate.h from install of fontconfig-devel-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-devel-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/include/fontconfig/fontconfig.h from install of fontconfig-devel-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-devel-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.a from install of fontconfig-devel-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-devel-4.3.0-15 file /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so from install of fontconfig-devel-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-devel-4.3.0-15 file /usr/lib/pkgconfig/fontconfig.pc from install of fontconfig-devel-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-devel-4.3.0-15 ========================= On SuSE Linux 8.2, fontconfig was already part of XFree86. On SuSE Linux 8.3 it will be a seperate package. ========== Ok, this was as I suspected and for the conflicts listed above.
You need the updated fontconfig packages from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/ only if you need newer features of fontconfig which were not yet available in the fontconfig which was released as part of XFree86 4.3.0.
I am not having problems with fonts presently in either Gnome2 or KDE, but was trying to find some files to update Gnome2 items, like Gtk2 and Pango and others. During the search, fontconfig seem to come up a lot. Oh, you don't know if anyone will be providing updated SuSE Gnome2 binaries, do you?
Yes, we are working on that, but it will take a bit more time.
-- Mike Fabian
http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。 =================
Ok, thanks Mike that is the simple explanation I was searching for from you. So basically, if no program is specifically asking for the new fontconfig, XFree86 4.3 has everything covered for the moment. Thanks again Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
BandiPat
You need the updated fontconfig packages from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/ only if you need newer features of fontconfig which were not yet available in the fontconfig which was released as part of XFree86 4.3.0.
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Ok, thanks Mike that is the simple explanation I was searching for from you. So basically, if no program is specifically asking for the new fontconfig, XFree86 4.3 has everything covered for the moment.
Yes, the fontconfig contained in XFree86 4.3.0 in SuSE 8.2 should be
enough in most cases.
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Mike Fabian
Yes, the fontconfig contained in XFree86 4.3.0 in SuSE 8.2 should be enough in most cases.
Actually, the AbiWord 2.0 development tree requires the new fontconfig, I'm using a patch to get around that at the moment, but it'd be happier with the new packages. If people would like to take full advantage, I could remove the patch with the next version? -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
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