gumb wrote:

I use Skanlite, it saves settings!

(not sure about boundaries though)

Ditto & ditto. I don't think I've ever had reason to set the boundaries. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 01/11/2018 18.09, Per Jessen wrote:

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gumb wrote:

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I use Skanlite, it saves settings!

(not sure about boundaries though)

Ditto & ditto. I don't think I've ever had reason to set the boundaries.

Me, always.

I set the boundaries to the minimal size that will get the document or whatever, living out the white space on the margins. The resulting filesize is smaller. Sometimes a lot smaller.

Doesn't that mean doing a pre-scan? There is a scanning application that does that automagically, I' don't remember which one. I usually scan for use in a document or to email to someone. Sometimes converting to a PDF first. It's most often text, so I use 150dpi, sometimes 300dpi. I rarely use a scan without opening it with gimp, reducing the size and saving as jpeg, at 60%. That'll create a decent scanned image, reasonably sized for email, and it won't produce bloated PDFs. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.3°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott wrote:

On 11/01/2018 02:04 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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I usually scan for use in a document or to email to someone. Sometimes converting to a PDF first. It's most often text, so I use 150dpi, sometimes 300dpi. I rarely use a scan without opening it with gimp, reducing the size and saving as jpeg, at 60%. That'll create a decent scanned image, reasonably sized for email, and it won't produce bloated PDFs.

I scan into LibreOffice and save or email as PDF.  I don't use Gimp.

You also said you scan with 1200dpi, don't you end up with huge emails or PDFs ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/02/2018 08:31 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 11/01/2018 03:19 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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I scan into LibreOffice and save or email as PDF.  I don't use Gimp. You also said you scan with 1200dpi, don't you end up with huge emails or PDFs ?

I keep an eye on that and it's generally not a problem, unless I forget to ensure I use lineart.

As an example, yesterday I sent an email with 4 scanned pages.  It totalled 1.4 MB, which email had no problem sending. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/11/2018 19.04, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 01/11/2018 18.09, Per Jessen wrote:

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gumb wrote:

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I use Skanlite, it saves settings!

(not sure about boundaries though)

Ditto & ditto. I don't think I've ever had reason to set the boundaries.

Me, always.

I set the boundaries to the minimal size that will get the document or whatever, living out the white space on the margins. The resulting filesize is smaller. Sometimes a lot smaller.

Doesn't that mean doing a pre-scan?

Yes.

There is a scanning application that does that automagically, I' don't remember which one.

Xsane, but manually. It does a pre-scan at low resolution, thus very fast. I also use it to adjust contrast and light. Sometimes, when doing a bunch of similar documents, I do the adjustments on the first page, and not the rest.

I usually scan for use in a document or to email to someone. Sometimes converting to a PDF first. It's most often text, so I use 150dpi, sometimes 300dpi. I rarely use a scan without opening it with gimp, reducing the size and saving as jpeg, at 60%. That'll create a decent scanned image, reasonably sized for email, and it won't produce bloated PDFs.

I scan directly from gimp. Gimp calls Xsane, and gets the result intact without compression. Then in gimp I save to jpg (export, in gimp parlance) changing the ratio while I see the result of that ratio in the display, finally choosing one that seems good visually. Then I might convert to PDF or sent as jpg. Typically I use 300 dpi, easier to read. For documents I store and might print again, I use 600 and convert to djvu, because it is the printer resolution. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Op donderdag 1 november 2018 17:07:57 CET schreef James Knott:

Forgot to mention, I do all my scanning in LibraOffice.

On 11/01/2018 12:03 PM, James Knott wrote:

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I have an Epson scanner and have been using it for years with sane. However, the software that comes with openSUSE does not have any means to save settings. So, every time I want to scan a document, I have to select source and then choose mode, resolution and set the boundaries, even though I use the same settings virtually every time I scan. Is there any way to save those settings? Perhaps a better app? I have Skanlite installed, but it has the same issue.

tnx jk In your OP you said you have tried Skanlite. Well, that works fine here, both on Leap 15 and TW. Every time I use it, it comes back with last settings used, so it does save.

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On 01/11/2018 17.41, James Knott wrote:

On 11/01/2018 12:36 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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In your OP you said you have tried Skanlite. Well, that works fine here, both on Leap 15 and TW. Every time I use it, it comes back with last settings used, so it does save.

I'll have to look into it further.  However, even though it was installed with 15.0 and I have since installed Xsane, when I go into Media>Scan>Source in LibreOffice, I still get the same config screen with all the setting back to where I don't want them.

You mean that LibreOffice calls Xsane? In that case, you need to call Xsane standalone in order to save settings. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))

On 01/11/2018 17.55, James Knott wrote:

On 11/01/2018 12:44 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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You mean that LibreOffice calls Xsane?

In that case, you need to call Xsane standalone in order to save settings.

No, it calls sane.  I don't see any way to change that.

Then try using Xsane directly (and save), and perhaps the settings will hold the next time you use LO. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))

Le 01/11/2018 à 17:55, James Knott a écrit :

On 11/01/2018 12:44 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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You mean that LibreOffice calls Xsane?

In that case, you need to call Xsane standalone in order to save settings.

No, it calls sane.  I don't see any way to change that.

xsane -h ? jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/01/2018 12:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

I have never tried to can from LibreOffice, I didn't even know it was possible.

That's the only way I use it.  You have to select the scan source to set resolution, etc.. and then scan the image into the document.  It works fine in that role, except I have to change the settings every time I create a new document.  The default ones are pretty much useless.  Virtually all my scanning is for 8.5" x 11", 1200 BPI, lineart.  I almost never use anything else.  It would be very nice to have those values as my default.  I've looked at Skanlite and Xsane and don't see any way to work directly with LibreOffice with them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/01/2018 01:09 PM, Simon Becherer wrote:

How do you scan from libreoffice, i take a short look, but did not find it...

While in the document: Insert > Media > Scan > Select Source to configure the scanner Insert > Media > Scan >Request to scan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/01/2018 01:15 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

This sounds like an LO bug rather than an opensuse one.

I have no idea where the problem is, only that it could be a *LOT* easier to use a scanner in openSUSE.  For example, if I wanted to scan directly to an email, it appears that could be done in Xsane, but that requires configuring an email server to use, which appears to only support SMTP and POP, so it can't even be used with modern email settings such as SMTPS and IMAPS.  Also, when clicking on Help in Xscane, it tries to use Netscape and fails, as Netscape hasn't been around for many years. In /etc/sane.d, I have found the file plustek.conf, which appears to be for my scanner and was created on April 19, 2018.  While it shows origin points, there's nothing for the dimensions to be used or mode. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/01/2018 01:58 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

What could be easier than clicking on skanlite and then "scan", wait for it to finish and save in your desired format? In the office, the one desktop that has the scanner attached, has Skanlite running all the time. One step saved.

I just used Skanlite to scan a document.  All I can do is save the image.  I cannot import directly into any app.  I'd have to import the saved image. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/11/2018 20.17, Per Jessen wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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On 11/01/2018 01:58 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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What could be easier than clicking on skanlite and then "scan", wait for it to finish and save in your desired format? In the office, the one desktop that has the scanner attached, has Skanlite running all the time. One step saved.

I just used Skanlite to scan a document.  All I can do is save the image.  I cannot import directly into any app.  I'd have to import the saved image.

Directly as in straight from Skanlite? I guess that's true. I haven't felt it was an obstacle.

Gimp reads directly from Xsane. I don't know if it uses an intermediate file, a pipe, or shared memory, no idea. If the wanted result is a pdf, xsane saves to PDF, IIRC. But one file per page. I don't know if there is a scanner tool that would produce a file with several pages as a single operation. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 02/11/2018 14.51, James Knott wrote:

On 11/02/2018 09:38 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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If the wanted result is a pdf, xsane saves to PDF, IIRC. But one file per page. I don't know if there is a scanner tool that would produce a file with several pages as a single operation.

That's why I scan into LibraOffice and create the PDF there.  Yesterday, I did 4 pages in on PDF>

There are tools to join several PDF files into one. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 02/11/2018 15.34, James Knott wrote:

On 11/02/2018 10:27 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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That's why I scan into LibraOffice and create the PDF there.  Yesterday, I did 4 pages in on PDF> There are tools to join several PDF files into one.

Well, LibraOffice allows me to create a single PDF and then email it.  Works well.  It's just the Sane part of the process that could be better.

Yes, I know, but using Xsane directly would allow you to save and reuse the settings, thus save time. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Le 02/11/2018 à 17:48, Per Jessen a écrit :

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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There are tools to join several PDF files into one.

Yep, ghostscript.

pdf tools, imagemagic... apropos pdf gives a hudge list on my 42.3 jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 01/11/2018 20.17, Per Jessen wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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On 11/01/2018 01:58 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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What could be easier than clicking on skanlite and then "scan", wait for it to finish and save in your desired format? In the office, the one desktop that has the scanner attached, has Skanlite running all the time. One step saved.

I just used Skanlite to scan a document.  All I can do is save the image.  I cannot import directly into any app.  I'd have to import the saved image.

Directly as in straight from Skanlite? I guess that's true. I haven't felt it was an obstacle.

Gimp reads directly from Xsane. I don't know if it uses an intermediate file, a pipe, or shared memory, no idea.

I'll have to try that.

If the wanted result is a pdf, xsane saves to PDF, IIRC.

I haven't tried, but if taken directly from the scanned, without resizing and compressing, they always end up being huge. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/11/2018 15.20, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

On 11/2/18 9:38 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 01/11/2018 20.17, Per Jessen wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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On 11/01/2018 01:58 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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What could be easier than clicking on skanlite and then "scan", wait for it to finish and save in your desired format?   In the office, the one desktop that has the scanner attached, has Skanlite running all the time.  One step saved.

I just used Skanlite to scan a document.  All I can do is save the image.  I cannot import directly into any app.  I'd have to import the saved image.

Directly as in straight from Skanlite?  I guess that's true. I haven't felt it was an obstacle.

Gimp reads directly from Xsane. I don't know if it uses an intermediate file, a pipe, or shared memory, no idea.

If the wanted result is a pdf, xsane saves to PDF, IIRC. But one file per page. I don't know if there is a scanner tool that would produce a file with several pages as a single operation.

xsane can produce a multipage pdf document by selecting 'multipage'. Then you select 'pdf' as the document 'type'. I've been doing this for years.

Ah! I was looking at it yesterday and did not see that. I must look again. [...] Good grief, it is hidden in the "Save" menu! -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 03/11/2018 20.46, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 18:09:27 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:

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On 03/11/2018 15.20, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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xsane can produce a multipage pdf document by selecting 'multipage'. Then you select 'pdf' as the document 'type'. I've been doing this for years.

Ah! I was looking at it yesterday and did not see that. I must look again. [...] Good grief, it is hidden in the "Save" menu!

Where else should it be?

A tick besides PDF filename perhaps? I don't know, but I have not noticed that feature in many years, and I use xsane a lot. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 04/11/2018 07.19, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 4/11/18 6:50 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 03/11/2018 20.46, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 18:09:27 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:

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On 03/11/2018 15.20, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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xsane can produce a multipage pdf document by selecting 'multipage'. Then you select 'pdf' as the document 'type'. I've been doing this for years. Ah! I was looking at it yesterday and did not see that. I must look again. [...] Good grief, it is hidden in the "Save" menu! Where else should it be? A tick besides PDF filename perhaps?

I don't know, but I have not noticed that feature in many years, and I use xsane a lot.

Want something really decent? Get VueScan (hamrick.com); not free (although there is a free trial version [#] [$]) but worth every penny (at least for me it was -- I bought the Pro version).

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Can I try VueScan before I buy?

You can test VueScan with your scanner for as long as you’d like without buying it first. We’re sure you’ll find VueScan to be useful, so we also offer a 30-day conditional money-back guarantee after you buy VueScan.

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[$] I understand that the free trial version puts a watermark on scans.

Yes, I heard of the tool from several people, but I don't see what feature I would need that I don't have. Maybe scan to djvu format directly. Now, if I were to purchase a scanner with automatic feed, and if xsane doesn't handle it, I would reconsider :-) (I don't ever scan to PDF directly, I don't like that format for scanned documents. I almost always scan to PNG, which I then convert to djvu. Sometimes I scan instead to jpg (indirectly, via gimp), which I then store). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)