[opensuse] Live upgrade with jump?
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Hello all, Just a simple question: Is officially supported the network upgrade with a jump from versions ? Like 11.4 ---> 12.3 or similar. Or is always better upgrade without jumps? 11.4 -> 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 12.3 .... Cordially, Claudio. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Claudio ML
Hello all,
Just a simple question: Is officially supported the network upgrade with a jump from versions ? Like 11.4 ---> 12.3 or similar. Or is always better upgrade without jumps? 11.4 -> 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 12.3 ....
Cordially,
Claudio.
The only supported way is one version jump at a time. In theory you can do as you suggest, but you risk having issues that no one else has seen. fyi: If you don't know, the evergreen project is still backporting security fixes to 11.4. That will continue for another year or two. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Il 19/03/2013 16:14, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Claudio ML
wrote: Hello all,
Just a simple question: Is officially supported the network upgrade with a jump from versions ? Like 11.4 ---> 12.3 or similar. Or is always better upgrade without jumps? 11.4 -> 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 12.3 ....
Cordially,
Claudio. The only supported way is one version jump at a time.
In theory you can do as you suggest, but you risk having issues that no one else has seen.
fyi: If you don't know, the evergreen project is still backporting security fixes to 11.4. That will continue for another year or two.
Greg Only for testing: i have tested a live update from 11.4 to 12.3....result? Strange, 12.3 starts with systemV, and not systemD, and naturally the network don't startup automatically. Removing from yast systemvinit, it automatically installs systemd, and network starts correctly.
Other test: updated 11.4 to 12.3 from DVD, and the update is perfect! No problems at all. Cheers, Claudio. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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El 19/03/13 13:59, Claudio ML escribió:
Only for testing: i have tested a live update from 11.4 to 12.3....result? Strange, 12.3 starts with systemV, and not systemD, and naturally the network don't startup automatically. Removing from yast systemvinit, it automatically installs systemd, and network starts correctly.
Other test: updated 11.4 to 12.3 from DVD, and the update is perfect! No problems at all.
Brave soul :-D , I'm glad that even an scenario that was most likely never tested, worked more or less fine... there is a very long way between 11.4 and 12.3 .. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 03/19/2013 01:26 PM, Cristian Rodríguez pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
El 19/03/13 13:59, Claudio ML escribió:
Only for testing: i have tested a live update from 11.4 to 12.3....result? Strange, 12.3 starts with systemV, and not systemD, and naturally the network don't startup automatically. Removing from yast systemvinit, it automatically installs systemd, and network starts correctly.
Other test: updated 11.4 to 12.3 from DVD, and the update is perfect! No problems at all.
Brave soul :-D , I'm glad that even an scenario that was most likely never tested, worked more or less fine... there is a very long way between 11.4 and 12.3 ..
Yes but not between 11.4 and 12.0 --> 12.1 --> 12.2 --> 12.3. A trip that can go bad at any point but nothing ventured nothing gained. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2013-03-19 at 17:59 +0100, Claudio ML wrote:
Only for testing: i have tested a live update from 11.4 to 12.3....result? Strange, 12.3 starts with systemV, and not systemD, and naturally the network don't startup automatically. Removing from yast systemvinit, it automatically installs systemd, and network starts correctly.
Other test: updated 11.4 to 12.3 from DVD, and the update is perfect! No problems at all.
The DVD or offline upgrade method is known to work better when jumping versions. In fact jumps were supported at SuSE times. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlFJFOwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UxegCdHERiu9/XUxqtelZrSHGxwDrV foEAn1bLjs0RUrN8mYOFHl7Y8DZ3UGs3 =KZp6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 03/19/2013 11:08 AM, Claudio ML pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello all,
Just a simple question: Is officially supported the network upgrade with a jump from versions ? Like 11.4 ---> 12.3 or similar. Or is always better upgrade without jumps? 11.4 -> 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 12.3 ....
Cordially,
Claudio.
Upgrade without jumps. But be careful and make sure you do backups as anything can and very well might happen. Murphy always seems to rear his ugly head as just the wrong time. YMMV And don't be surprised by all of the nay sayers that insist on fresh installs at every step. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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El 19/03/13 14:35, Ken Schneider - openSUSE escribió:
And don't be surprised by all of the nay sayers that insist on fresh installs at every step.
Long time without doing fresh install for upgrade.. the last few times I did it was for changing partition layout on disk..or changing the root filesystem type. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Cristian Rodríguez
El 19/03/13 14:35, Ken Schneider - openSUSE escribió:
And don't be surprised by all of the nay sayers that insist on fresh installs at every step.
Long time without doing fresh install for upgrade.. the last few times I did it was for changing partition layout on disk..or changing the root filesystem type.
Neither one requires new install. Almost the only case when new installation is indeed required is changing distro :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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El 20/03/13 00:24, Andrey Borzenkov escribió:
Neither one requires new install. Almost the only case when new installation is indeed required is changing distro :)
Yeah. strictly not required, however I did not bother doing it the hard way.. it is faster to backup and do a clean start :-P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2013-03-20 at 01:19 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Yeah. strictly not required, however I did not bother doing it the hard way.. it is faster to backup and do a clean start :-P
It is is faster unless you have a lot of system services configured. Mail services, databases, etc. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlFJwigACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WVwwCfaOKl1uj9lgo8NsMzJ7C8o9rK QcEAn3HMXBR8RxQVoDFA71LBSzulAU04 =u+Li -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Andrey Borzenkov
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Carlos E. R.
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Claudio ML
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Greg Freemyer
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Ken Schneider - openSUSE