SuSE 10.1 boxed version ZMD Problems and other questions
Hello guys, I am now running 10.1 :) with a bit of mixed feeling so far. Some things I like very much others not so. Here is my current problem: When I try to update some packages I get: Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Public.ZenException: Failed to lookup resolvable with id 'XXXXX' Server stack trace: in <0x00178> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RedCarpetBackend+SqlTransaction:GetResult () in <0x00081> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RedCarpetBackend:ResolveDependencies (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] installs, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] upgrades, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] removals) in <0x00023> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.PackageManager:Resolve (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] installs, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] upgrades, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] removals) in <0x00038> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RemotePackageManager:ResolveDependencies (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.Public.ResolvableInfo[] installs, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.Public.ResolvableInfo[] upgrades, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.Public.ResolvableInfo[] removals) in <0x00000> <unknown method> in (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingServices:InternalExecute (System.Reflection.MethodBase,object,object[],object[]&) in <0x00188> System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingServices:InternalExecuteMessage (System.MarshalByRefObject target, IMethodCallMessage reqMsg) Exception rethrown at [0]: in <0x006dc> System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy:PrivateInvoke (System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy rp, IMessage msg, System.Exception exc, System.Object[] out_args) Is anyone else having problems with this? I went through the good old reliable YOU and it worked no problems. How can I activate the SuSE-Watcher is it gone??? Another thing that I do not really like is the missing NVIDIA driver which I have to apply as a patch myself and keep applying it on every kernel upgrade ... not that I won't benifit from the experience but I did not want to do that for my home laptop too... Also do you know how can I completely disable Beagle? Has anyone tried Xgl? I tried to read the docs http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux but I get "bash: gnome-xgl-settings: command not found" when I run gnome-xgl-settings searching in YaST leads to no result and my Control Centre in GNOME is missing the mentioned Desktop Effects.... I have installed the boxed version. Does anyone know what the 6-th CD is for I hope the CDs now equal the DVD. Thanks for your help George
George Stoianov wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with this? I went through the good old reliable YOU and it worked no problems. How can I activate the SuSE-Watcher is it gone??? Another thing that I do not really like is the missing NVIDIA driver which I have to apply as a patch myself and keep applying it on every kernel upgrade ... not that I won't benifit from the experience but I did not want to do that for my home laptop too...
If you look through the list for the past week or so, the answer is YES. ZenWorks is utterly broken. SuSE has put up a "beta" fix for Zen, but most of the people I know just switched to apt instead, since there are now official SuSE rpms for apt. SuSEwatcher is gone. The whole situation has made Novell/SuSE look incompetent. I suspect some Novell exec cooked up the scheme in an attempt to boost the sales of ZenWorks. If so, it has majorly backfired, and ZenWorks looks completely broken, not something I'd be looking to spend $130/seat on. With NVIDIA, it's best to run the driver yourself. The driver is closed source, so SuSE can't really support it.
Also do you know how can I completely disable Beagle?
Pull up the Software Management in YaST, search for beagle, delete it.
Has anyone tried Xgl? I tried to read the docs http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux but I get "bash: gnome-xgl-settings: command not found" when I run gnome-xgl-settings searching in YaST leads to no result and my Control Centre in GNOME is missing the mentioned Desktop Effects.... I have installed the boxed version. Does anyone know what the 6-th CD is for I hope the CDs now equal the DVD.
http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/254/42/ I was able to get XGL running perfectly, except for one thing: If I saved the desktop settings, Gnome would refuse to load from then on. This was kinda a deal breaker. Besides, I prefer KDE, and I couldn't get it to work with KDE at all.
On 5/28/06, suse@rio.vg <suse@rio.vg> wrote:
George Stoianov wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with this? I went through the good old reliable YOU and it worked no problems. How can I activate the SuSE-Watcher is it gone??? Another thing that I do not really like is the missing NVIDIA driver which I have to apply as a patch myself and keep applying it on every kernel upgrade ... not that I won't benifit from the experience but I did not want to do that for my home laptop too...
If you look through the list for the past week or so, the answer is YES. ZenWorks is utterly broken. SuSE has put up a "beta" fix for Zen, but most of the people I know just switched to apt instead, since there are now official SuSE rpms for apt. SuSEwatcher is gone. The whole situation has made Novell/SuSE look incompetent. I suspect some Novell exec cooked up the scheme in an attempt to boost the sales of ZenWorks. If so, it has majorly backfired, and ZenWorks looks completely broken, not something I'd be looking to spend $130/seat on.
Wow that is a nice twist :( BTW I said that YOU works well now more packages appear to need to be upgraded plus those I already did but they already were it seems quite messed up.
With NVIDIA, it's best to run the driver yourself. The driver is closed source, so SuSE can't really support it.
Yes, I know this is how it has always been but there was a package I only applied it and it did the rest. Now I have found this: http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html is this what I have to do to get it to work??
Also do you know how can I completely disable Beagle?
Pull up the Software Management in YaST, search for beagle, delete it.
Done, I hope now my fan will not be working as much.
Has anyone tried Xgl? I tried to read the docs http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux but I get "bash: gnome-xgl-settings: command not found" when I run gnome-xgl-settings searching in YaST leads to no result and my Control Centre in GNOME is missing the mentioned Desktop Effects.... I have installed the boxed version. Does anyone know what the 6-th CD is for I hope the CDs now equal the DVD.
http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/254/42/
I was able to get XGL running perfectly, except for one thing: If I saved the desktop settings, Gnome would refuse to load from then on. This was kinda a deal breaker. Besides, I prefer KDE, and I couldn't get it to work with KDE at all.
Well that is good to know. I saw on the link I posted that for NVIDIA only GNOME would work and ATI with KDE. The situation with the package manager is frustrating if I am going to be using apt....why am I using SuSE, I like YaST way better.... Can I get Debian packages now that I can use apt ?? Any hints on getting wireless and wired configured at the same time on 10 I always had one or the other now I can only have wireless and that is without the network manager. Thanks, George
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George Stoianov wrote:
On 5/28/06, suse@rio.vg <suse@rio.vg> wrote:
If you look through the list for the past week or so, the answer is YES. ZenWorks is utterly broken. SuSE has put up a "beta" fix for Zen, but most of the people I know just switched to apt instead, since there are now official SuSE rpms for apt. SuSEwatcher is gone. The whole situation has made Novell/SuSE look incompetent. I suspect some Novell exec cooked up the scheme in an attempt to boost the sales of ZenWorks. If so, it has majorly backfired, and ZenWorks looks completely broken, not something I'd be looking to spend $130/seat on.
Wow that is a nice twist :( BTW I said that YOU works well now more packages appear to need to be upgraded plus those I already did but they already were it seems quite messed up.
Yeah, it shows them, with checkmarks in them, too, as if to trick you into thinking it'll be updating those packages...
With NVIDIA, it's best to run the driver yourself. The driver is closed source, so SuSE can't really support it.
Yes, I know this is how it has always been but there was a package I only applied it and it did the rest. Now I have found this: http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html is this what I have to do to get it to work??
Well, yeah... but what's so hard about that? You download the driver from nvidia, run the driver, then run SaX to set up X. Then anytime you update you kernel, you run the driver. You don't need to deal with SaX after each kernel update, just run the installer from nvidia.
Has anyone tried Xgl? I tried to read the docs http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux but I get "bash: gnome-xgl-settings: command not found" when I run gnome-xgl-settings searching in YaST leads to no result and my Control Centre in GNOME is missing the mentioned Desktop Effects.... I have installed the boxed version. Does anyone know what the 6-th CD is for I hope the CDs now equal the DVD.
http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/254/42/
I was able to get XGL running perfectly, except for one thing: If I saved the desktop settings, Gnome would refuse to load from then on. This was kinda a deal breaker. Besides, I prefer KDE, and I couldn't get it to work with KDE at all.
Well that is good to know. I saw on the link I posted that for NVIDIA only GNOME would work and ATI with KDE.
I don't think that's the case. I should clarify: I XGL would run under KDE, but there were major incompatibilities, like desktop switching was run through gnome. The problems I had, to be honest, seem to stem from compiz, not XGL. (For those reading this who may not know, compiz is the special window manager written to run all the XGL eye candy) From what I've heard, if you have an ATI card, getting XGL to work at all is hit or miss, due to driver issues.
The situation with the package manager is frustrating if I am going to be using apt....why am I using SuSE, I like YaST way better.... Can I get Debian packages now that I can use apt ??
No, with apt on SuSE, you're using the same repositories as you would through YaST, just accessing them in a different way. It's still rpm, not deb based.
Any hints on getting wireless and wired configured at the same time on 10 I always had one or the other now I can only have wireless and that is without the network manager.
Change it to switch to the old ifup/ifdown method, rather than network manager. As far as I can tell, Network Manager isn't smart enough to Manage more than one Network at a time.
Op ma, 29-05-2006 te 00:47 -0400, schreef suse@rio.vg:
You download the driver from nvidia, run the driver, then run SaX to set up X. Then anytime you update you kernel, you run the driver. You don't need to deal with SaX after each kernel update, just run the installer from nvidia.
I've once been told that the "sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia" command is there so you won't have to compile the driver after a kernel update, it should be done automagicly. I cannot confirm this though, after i used that command i never had a kernel update, so i can't tell yet :-/ Chris Maaskant.
Chris Maaskant wrote:
Op ma, 29-05-2006 te 00:47 -0400, schreef suse@rio.vg:
You download the driver from nvidia, run the driver, then run SaX to set up X. Then anytime you update you kernel, you run the driver. You don't need to deal with SaX after each kernel update, just run the installer from nvidia.
I've once been told that the "sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia" command is there so you won't have to compile the driver after a kernel update, it should be done automagicly.
I cannot confirm this though, after i used that command i never had a kernel update, so i can't tell yet :-/
Other way around. The sax2 command you only need to once, after you've first installed the driver. After every kernel update, you need to run the NVIDIA-(version)-run package. sax2 just sets your resolution, colors, etc.
On Monday 29 May 2006 04:00, suse@rio.vg wrote:
I was able to get XGL running perfectly, ... Besides, I prefer KDE, and I couldn't get it to work with KDE at all.
Huh? I tried XGL/compiz as well, in/with KDE, and - apart from the "wobbly" effect that made me go crazy and immediately logout - it ran well. But since I longed for the features of KDE's window manager, I switched back. It was nice to try out, but the extra eye-candy did not weigh up to the missing features from the window manager (amongst others zoom horizontally!, which I use a *lot*). ;) Cheers, Leen
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