[opensuse] Leap Display settings
How does one set the configuration of multiple screens in Leap?. The "Display and Monitor" button no longer displays the options to select screens, sync etc. Thanks Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
don fisher composed on 2016-02-08 14:32 (UTC-0700):
How does one set the configuration of multiple screens in Leap?. The "Display and Monitor" button no longer displays the options to select screens, sync etc.
Are you going into that settings screen having booted with all displays connected and powered up. I do my screen configurations via xorg.conf*, so don't use the KDE display config panel myself, but it looks doable to me. Doesn't yours look something like this? http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kscreen5-0768.jpg -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/08/2016 03:22 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
don fisher composed on 2016-02-08 14:32 (UTC-0700):
How does one set the configuration of multiple screens in Leap?. The "Display and Monitor" button no longer displays the options to select screens, sync etc.
Are you going into that settings screen having booted with all displays connected and powered up. I do my screen configurations via xorg.conf*, so don't use the KDE display config panel myself, but it looks doable to me. Doesn't yours look something like this? http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kscreen5-0768.jpg
That is what the 13.2 screen like like. The leap screen just offers "Screen Locker" settings. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/02/2016 23:36, don fisher a écrit :
On 02/08/2016 03:22 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
That is what the 13.2 screen like like. The leap screen just offers "Screen Locker" settings.
Don I have in Leap this exact same screen. May be depends on graphic card? Mine is Nvidia (and with Nouveau)
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jdd composed on 2016-02-09 00:29 (UTC+0100):
don fisher composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
That is what the 13.2 screen like like. The leap screen just offers "Screen Locker" settings.
I have in Leap this exact same screen. May be depends on graphic card? Mine is Nvidia (and with Nouveau)
That .jpg is from booting TW's KF5 with two displays connected to Intel gfx and powered up before booting, so driver isn't likely related. I don't have KF5 on any of my 42.1 installations. My guess is either that Don's using a laptop docking system that isn't fully connected at boot time (and KF5 is "too intelligent" for its own good, or it has a dependent udev bug), or his 42.1 installation is missing some *randr* or *creen* package that the KF5 screen configuration panel requires to be able to populate itself. Note Don didn't answer my question about how he booted, which might show the root of his problem. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/08/2016 05:38 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
jdd composed on 2016-02-09 00:29 (UTC+0100):
don fisher composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
That is what the 13.2 screen like like. The leap screen just offers "Screen Locker" settings.
I have in Leap this exact same screen. May be depends on graphic card? Mine is Nvidia (and with Nouveau)
That .jpg is from booting TW's KF5 with two displays connected to Intel gfx and powered up before booting, so driver isn't likely related. I don't have KF5 on any of my 42.1 installations. My guess is either that Don's using a laptop docking system that isn't fully connected at boot time (and KF5 is "too intelligent" for its own good, or it has a dependent udev bug), or his 42.1 installation is missing some *randr* or *creen* package that the KF5 screen configuration panel requires to be able to populate itself. Note Don didn't answer my question about how he booted, which might show the root of his problem.
I have xrandr, and don't know what *creen* would be required. I have kscreen5 loaded. Please pose question about boot again. I used the DVD to upgrade my 3.2 system enabling all of the update repositories. Then I just do a standard boot. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
don fisher composed on 2016-02-08 22:15 (UTC-0700):
...Please pose question about boot again...
1-Power your computer down completely (not sleep, not hibernate: -> totally off). 2-Power up your display(s). 3-If using a laptop in a docking station, ensure the docking station is in ready state. 4-Power up (boot) PC into KF5. 5-Enter systemsettings -> manage and configure monitors and displays Does your screen look like this?: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kscreen5-0768.jpg If not, show us a screenshot of what you do see. Also, provide output from: zypper se -s | grep ^i | sort | egrep 'creen|randr' and: lspci | grep VGA and content of file (as attachment or to a pastebin or your personal web site): ~/.xsession-errors -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/08/2016 10:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
lspci | grep VGA Felix,
Sorry, but I never made a screen shot before. How do you do this? My ~/.xsession-errors file is empty, yesterdays date. I have attached the .xsession-errors-:0 file. Don't recall what the difference is right now. I have also attached the outputs of the zypper and lspci commands you requested. Do you know how do you get Thunderbird to see fies starting with a .? Thanks Don
don fisher wrote:
On 02/08/2016 10:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
lspci | grep VGA Felix,
Sorry, but I never made a screen shot before. How do you do this?
You hit PrintScr :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/09/2016 01:55 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
don fisher wrote:
On 02/08/2016 10:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
lspci | grep VGA Felix,
Sorry, but I never made a screen shot before. How do you do this?
You hit PrintScr :-)
Good heavens! That actually works! I've always used ksnapshot from the main menu before. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 02/09/2016 01:55 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
don fisher wrote:
On 02/08/2016 10:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
lspci | grep VGA Felix,
Sorry, but I never made a screen shot before. How do you do this?
You hit PrintScr :-)
Good heavens! That actually works!
I've always used ksnapshot from the main menu before.
It's never too late to learn something old :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (2.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2016 08:48, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 02/09/2016 01:55 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
don fisher wrote:
On 02/08/2016 10:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
lspci | grep VGA Felix,
Sorry, but I never made a screen shot before. How do you do this? You hit PrintScr :-) Good heavens! That actually works!
I've always used ksnapshot from the main menu before. It's never too late to learn something old :-)
Mines Shift+Print Screen. In dos it used to actually print the screen. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Plater composed on 2016-02-10 18:10 (UTC+0200):
Mines Shift+Print Screen. In dos it used to actually print the screen.
The ONLY logical result of a key so labeled. How many dweebs are naturally going to associate 'print' with screencap? I've seen KDE's new screenshooter name 2-3 times in recent days and *still* can't remember it. Why don't we change program names more often, or other things? Let's stop calling banks banks and call them fremoxen instead? Let's call PCs wertomes, automobiles bazlinder, and streets skordinks. Strategic behavior from KDE upstream in recent years makes me estimate their average age too low for legal imbibing. Any chance we can get that new upstream name changed to KSnapshot for openSUSE? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/10/2016 11:29 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Dave Plater composed on 2016-02-10 18:10 (UTC+0200):
Mines Shift+Print Screen. In dos it used to actually print the screen.
The ONLY logical result of a key so labeled. How many dweebs are naturally going to associate 'print' with screencap? I've seen KDE's new screenshooter name 2-3 times in recent days and *still* can't remember it. Why don't we change program names more often, or other things? Let's stop calling banks banks and call them fremoxen instead? Let's call PCs wertomes, automobiles bazlinder, and streets skordinks. Strategic behavior from KDE upstream in recent years makes me estimate their average age too low for legal imbibing.
Any chance we can get that new upstream name changed to KSnapshot for openSUSE?
Apparently this was due to someone discovering that Ksnapshot had only X-11 screen shot capability. It wasn't broken and was actually working under K5, but then someone said Wayland, and the guy looking at Ksnapshot did a re-write to something called KscreenGenie, because, apparently, that's the way the KDE project works, any johnny-come-lately project triggers an instant rewrite of KDE core programs. https://blogs.kde.org/2015/08/12/ksnapshot-next Then there was another change, and, KScreenGenie got released with no Wayland support after all. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KScreenGenie-KSnapshot Then, for totally unexplained reasons, KScreenGenie was totally replaced (or renamed, who can tell?) with Spectacle, https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.12.0.php Apparently this latest change was triggered by someone finding a kludge to get Spectacle taking snapshots when Wayland was running instead of X-11. https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-core-devel@kde.org/msg19928.html So that's the story until Boudhayan Gupta changes his socks and triggers another KDE rewrite/rename. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Dave Plater composed on 2016-02-10 18:10 (UTC+0200):
Mines Shift+Print Screen. In dos it used to actually print the screen.
The ONLY logical result of a key so labeled. How many dweebs are naturally going to associate 'print' with screencap?
In my office, two keyboards have them labelled "Print Scrn" but they are rather old keyboards. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 10/02/2016 21:35, Per Jessen a écrit :
In my office, two keyboards have them labelled "Print Scrn" but they are rather old keyboards.
same here (Imp écr in french) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/10/2016 03:35 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Dave Plater composed on 2016-02-10 18:10 (UTC+0200):
Mines Shift+Print Screen. In dos it used to actually print the screen. The ONLY logical result of a key so labeled. How many dweebs are naturally going to associate 'print' with screencap? In my office, two keyboards have them labelled "Print Scrn" but they are rather old keyboards.
I have an IBM "M" keyboard, which has a "Print Screen" button and my ThinkPad has a "PrtSc" button. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 09/02/2016 01:38, Felix Miata a écrit :
jdd composed on 2016-02-09 00:29 (UTC+0100):
don fisher composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
That is what the 13.2 screen like like. The leap screen just offers "Screen Locker" settings.
I have in Leap this exact same screen. May be depends on graphic card? Mine is Nvidia (and with Nouveau)
That .jpg is from booting TW's KF5 with two displays connected to Intel gfx and powered up before booting, so driver isn't likely related. I don't have
if I read well what is at the beginning, the OP do not even have the option in the kde control center. I have only one monitor and I have the option, so may be simply some kde part missing? jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/16 01:34 AM, jdd wrote:
if I read well what is at the beginning, the OP do not even have the option in the kde control center. I have only one monitor and I have the option, so may be simply some kde part missing?
I have the same configuration as you do, and I also have the option in the control center. Either there is a kde part missing, as you suggest, or else the OP is looking in the wrong section of the control center. He mentioned something about only seeing "screen locking", but that is the wrong section for this. For don fisher: you should be looking in Hardware/Display and Monitor/Display Configuration. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/09/2016 06:42 AM, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 09/02/16 01:34 AM, jdd wrote:
if I read well what is at the beginning, the OP do not even have the option in the kde control center. I have only one monitor and I have the option, so may be simply some kde part missing?
I have the same configuration as you do, and I also have the option in the control center. Either there is a kde part missing, as you suggest, or else the OP is looking in the wrong section of the control center. He mentioned something about only seeing "screen locking", but that is the wrong section for this.
For don fisher: you should be looking in Hardware/Display and Monitor/Display Configuration.
Darryl, I looked at Hardware/Display and Monitor/Display as you suggested. I cannot see how to cut and paste part of that display into a file that I could attach. The entire output is listed as 1000K long. Can I attach this, or should I load it into my editor and try to cull it down? Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/16 12:46 PM, don fisher wrote:
On 02/09/2016 06:42 AM, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
For don fisher: you should be looking in Hardware/Display and Monitor/Display Configuration.
Darryl,
I looked at Hardware/Display and Monitor/Display as you suggested. I cannot see how to cut and paste part of that display into a file that I could attach. The entire output is listed as 1000K long. Can I attach this, or should I load it into my editor and try to cull it down? You can use the screen grabber to take a snap of only part of the screen. If you already have a snapshot, trim it down; everything else is vast tracts of real estate that is not relevant here.
As for file attaching it, I think the list server might strip off any attached files. There are plenty of free image hosting sites, such as tinypic.com or imgur.com that you can use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-02-10 12:58, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
As for file attaching it, I think the list server might strip off any attached files. There are plenty of free image hosting sites, such as tinypic.com or imgur.com that you can use.
susepaste.org -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 02/08/2016 04:29 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 08/02/2016 23:36, don fisher a écrit :
On 02/08/2016 03:22 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
That is what the 13.2 screen like like. The leap screen just offers "Screen Locker" settings.
Don I have in Leap this exact same screen. May be depends on graphic card? Mine is Nvidia (and with Nouveau)
jdd I have the same card.
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On 02/08/2016 02:32 PM, don fisher wrote:
How does one set the configuration of multiple screens in Leap?. The "Display and Monitor" button no longer displays the options to select screens, sync etc.
Thanks Don I found that if I look at the Display settings center under the KDE window, the correct display appears. What changed under LEAP so that the display configuration window that used to appear correctly under FVWM now fails? And how can I fix it? I would also like to be able to run the KDE help application. Any ideas on how to do that under FVWM?
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don fisher composed on 2016-02-09 12:51 (UTC-0700):
don fisher wrote:
How does one set the configuration of multiple screens in Leap?. The "Display and Monitor" button no longer displays the options to select screens, sync etc.
I found that if I look at the Display settings center under the KDE window, the correct display appears. What changed under LEAP so that the display configuration window that used to appear correctly under FVWM now fails? And how can I fix it?
KDE's display configurator relies on xrandr, so absent the KDE settings window, you can nevertheless use xrandr yourself. Screen configuration can also be done using xorg.conf*, which has always been my preference. For setup via xrandr, http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/Linux/setup has many examples, among which many are for dual displays. Each line uncommented can stand alone. IOW, it only takes one line to get the job done. Dual display lines include one of strings "above", "below", "right-of" or "left-of". Subject to limitations of https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929016 one could put a one-line script in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ (or in ~/.xinitrc; not personally tested). For setup via xorg.conf, files in http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/Linux/ can serve as templates to build your own. If you had ever told us the configuration you want and provided hardware specs, I would have made you custom files. These two have been specifically tested to work for KF5 on openSUSE with NVidia GeForce 8600GT and nouveau driver: xrandr method: xrandr --dpi 120 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1280x1024 --output DVI-I-2 --mode 1920x1080 --right-of DVI-I-1 xorg.conf* method: http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/Linux/xorg.conf-nouveauDualDVI-left1280x1024-right... The xrandr method, placing the command in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/setup, does NOT work using startx to run an XFCE session on 42.1. You may encounter the same limitation using FVWM (as discussed in above bug 929016). I suggest you try the xorg.conf* method file as /etc/X11/xorg.conf after modifying its specified modes to match your displays, and DisplaySize to match your taste (or delete the whole line to use 96 DPI). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 10/02/2016 02:58, Felix Miata a écrit :
xrandr method: xrandr --dpi 120 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1280x1024 --output DVI-I-2 --mode 1920x1080 --right-of DVI-I-1
details http://dodin.info/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.AddXResolution
I suggest you try the xorg.conf* method file as /etc/X11/xorg.conf after modifying its specified modes to match your displays, and DisplaySize to match your taste (or delete the whole line to use 96 DPI).
on the computer I try it lastly (Leap), running Xconfig to gt a fresh xorg.conf file didn't work (error message). No idea if it's a local problem or more general, as now the config is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, a la sysinit jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd composed on 2016-02-10 09:24 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata composed:
xrandr method: xrandr --dpi 120 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1280x1024 --output DVI-I-2 --mode 1920x1080 --right-of DVI-I-1
details
Including modelines in xorg.conf is particularly useless 99.99997% of the time. Manual modeline generators gtf, cvt and various web sites don't do anything that Xorg doesn't automatically and competently do itself as long as it gets HorizSync and VertRefresh specifications either from xorg.conf*, xrandr or EDID.
I suggest you try the xorg.conf* method file as /etc/X11/xorg.conf after modifying its specified modes to match your displays, and DisplaySize to match your taste (or delete the whole line to use 96 DPI).
on the computer I try it lastly (Leap), running Xconfig to gt a fresh xorg.conf file didn't work (error message). No idea if it's a local problem or more general, as now the config is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, a la sysinit
The purpose and meaning of your reply completely escapes my understanding. Is it supposed to be of help somehow to the OP? If "running Xconfig" translates to 'X -configure', that's been all but useless for generating what's actually needed for competent video configuration for many years, at least as far back as 11.4. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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