[opensuse] Kmail not retrieving all POP3 emails
HI I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them. regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-14 21:35, ianseeks wrote:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
I think it keeps track of email it thinks it previously downloaded. That list will be stored somewhere, locally, because there is no way to store that info in the pop3 server (contrary to imap). You have to find and remove that list of downloaded email, or pick those with another client. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkw+FSkACgkQU92UU+smfQWxXgCfW0jp1a0sdCfvauCIAS8YhDc6 uCoAn0jCwh/iGPCQavWcU1jycisxeUhg =8WQj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 20:51:05 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-07-14 21:35, ianseeks wrote:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
I think it keeps track of email it thinks it previously downloaded. That list will be stored somewhere, locally, because there is no way to store that info in the pop3 server (contrary to imap). You have to find and remove that list of downloaded email, or pick those with another client.
i might have to try another client or forward them to myself in the hope it picks them up. thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
ianseeks wrote:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
regards
Ian
Are those messages marked as read? If so, mark them unread and they should download. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 21:18:14 James Knott wrote:
ianseeks wrote:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
regards
Ian
Are those messages marked as read? If so, mark them unread and they should download.
I tried that, still no luck. thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
ianseeks wrote:
Are those messages marked as read? If so, mark them unread and they
should download.
I tried that, still no luck. thanks
By any chance, are those messages spam? A few years ago, I had a problem with certain messages getting stuck in the server. They were all spam and whenever my mail app tried to download them, they'd fail. I had to go in with web mail to delete them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El 14/07/10 15:35, ianseeks escribió:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved?
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 23:36:26 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 14/07/10 15:35, ianseeks escribió:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved?
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.
Can you do that with an POP3 account? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-15 00:59, ianseeks wrote:
On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 23:36:26 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.
Can you do that with an POP3 account?
Certainly not. However, you can try, to see if they do have imap. I have found several providers that did have imap, although disabled at some point. I mean, some had the port opened, some had an imap server responding, but at the last minute, authentication would always fail. And some, after a few years, suddenly announced they had added imap to their service. (the imap server was there because the software they used had both pop3/imap. But they didn't have the resources, and disabled it). And some never add imap to their service. Unless you pay extra, that is. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkw+Q24ACgkQU92UU+smfQW5rgCeNcOVp3G3T0/sORhia+bTOx8/ VBIAmgPO6/vOepU6wAZeyC7c0jiyFAMx =jums -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 Jul 2010 00:08:30 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-07-15 00:59, ianseeks wrote:
On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 23:36:26 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.
Can you do that with an POP3 account?
Certainly not.
However, you can try, to see if they do have imap. I have found several providers that did have imap, although disabled at some point. I mean, some had the port opened, some had an imap server responding, but at the last minute, authentication would always fail. And some, after a few years, suddenly announced they had added imap to their service.
(the imap server was there because the software they used had both pop3/imap. But they didn't have the resources, and disabled it).
And some never add imap to their service. Unless you pay extra, that is.
thanks, I'll try that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El 14/07/10 18:59, ianseeks escribió:
Can you do that with an POP3 account?
No, but your ISP may have the IMAP service running though they might not "support" it in any way. They sell you POP3 accounts because it is supposed to be cheaper to operate. (aka, they sell you crap ;) ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 Jul 2010 01:54:51 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 14/07/10 18:59, ianseeks escribió:
Can you do that with an POP3 account?
No, but your ISP may have the IMAP service running though they might not "support" it in any way.
They sell you POP3 accounts because it is supposed to be cheaper to operate. (aka, they sell you crap ;) )
thanks, I'll give it a try, the original ISP (pipex) has been taken over a few times so maybe one of the new owners may have mistakenly set IMAP going. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El 15/07/10 01:49, ianseeks escribió:
thanks, I'll give it a try, the original ISP (pipex) has been taken over a few times so maybe one of the new owners may have mistakenly set IMAP going.
You can use the account wizard that kmail or thunderbird has to automatically detect what imap server you should use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Cristian Rodríguez (crrodriguez@opensuse.org) [20100715 00:37]:
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.
And then spend eons to port your procmailrc to sieve rules ... Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-07-15 12:04, Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Cristian Rodríguez (crrodriguez@opensuse.org) [20100715 00:37]:
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.
And then spend eons to port your procmailrc to sieve rules ...
Why? On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do. The problem is if you use a local imap server and want to distribute your received email there... which is not the OP case. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkw/IhAACgkQja8UbcUWM1z0+wD7BAI57UcU3nWy8rf2msAf3RMW SrDA3l4pMxf3tKhKmccBAJ0E9I1MvQUJj+lfouU291SQej2taglSMJ5yngyuI80J =cALY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:24 +0200, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do.
Yes, but I needed sorting the mail into folders on the server in order to do selective mail downloads to my N900 smartphone and for that you need sieve. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philipp Thomas said the following on 07/20/2010 05:06 AM:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:24 +0200, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do.
Yes, but I needed sorting the mail into folders on the server in order to do selective mail downloads to my N900 smartphone and for that you need sieve.
What am I missing here? I use procmail rules to filter and sort messages into specific folders according to subject and source as well as the results of spamassassin. What is it I'm doing that Philipp says procmail can't do? I don't claim genus in this matter. I just googled for some examples and "changed the names to protect the innocent". Google is my friend. -- Unix *is* user friendly! You just aren't necessarily on the A-list... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:55:01 -0400, Anton Aylward <anton.aylward@rogers.com> wrote:
What am I missing here? I use procmail rules to filter and sort messages into specific folders according to subject and source as well as the results of spamassassin.
That implies using fetchmail to download the mail, doesn't it?
What is it I'm doing that Philipp says procmail can't do?
I don't want to download tons of mails from high volume mailing lists such as opensuse-*, the GCC mainling lists or the boost ml (just to name a few) to my smartphone because a) I have a 200 MiB limit before throttling to 64 kib and b) because I find smartphones awkward for writing emails. So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters. Now a bit clearer? Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-21 14:09, Philipp Thomas wrote:
So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters.
Now a bit clearer?
Yes. But that means you have a very good provider. Most of us can not access such features. Think of gmail... and that's a good one! My ISP, Telefonica, looses (as in lost, did I spell it right?) some of my sent email, for example. I have imap, yes. No filtering, no sorting, except spam, and I have no control over it. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxHS3IACgkQU92UU+smfQWCCACfSG0v2rtdu/cekhdH+Ei5oqVY GekAn0/DaUWSpMITh4F8uOXdh7sFPHaU =vKq2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 15:33:07 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-07-21 14:09, Philipp Thomas wrote:
So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters.
Now a bit clearer?
Yes. But that means you have a very good provider. Most of us can not access such features. Think of gmail... and that's a good one!
My ISP, Telefonica, looses (as in lost, did I spell it right?) some of my sent email, for example. I have imap, yes. No filtering, no sorting, except spam, and I have no control over it.
Just one "o" Carlos Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 22:39 -0400, Bob S wrote:
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 15:33:07 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-07-21 14:09, Philipp Thomas wrote:
So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters. Now a bit clearer? Yes. But that means you have a very good provider. Most of us can not access such features. Think of gmail... and that's a good one!
Check out fastmail.fm for an IMAP provider that supports Open Source. -- Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> LPIC-1, Novell CLA <http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com> OpenGroupware, Cyrus IMAPd, Postfix, OpenLDAP, Samba -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-25 16:40, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 22:39 -0400, Bob S wrote:
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 15:33:07 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-07-21 14:09, Philipp Thomas wrote:
So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters. Now a bit clearer? Yes. But that means you have a very good provider. Most of us can not access such features. Think of gmail... and that's a good one!
Check out fastmail.fm for an IMAP provider that supports Open Source.
I want those things in my ISP or near (network-wise). - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxMVhEACgkQU92UU+smfQWdswCgksN+uO/RyV7dbYUk7Wa/LOKE FtIAn1accW2LS4JG5vG0iU+7mTYalGzo =mlsW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-07-20 11:06, Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:24 +0200, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do.
Yes, but I needed sorting the mail into folders on the server in order to do selective mail downloads to my N900 smartphone and for that you need sieve.
But that is not related to the OP questions. He only has access to the client. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkxGpBAACgkQja8UbcUWM1wkCAD/flhHvhURM4yHdbQA7SAkwN7Q WravEkuEglw0QRs42+EA/iGlWqLK9KT1BJSe50dca4ZtRPljLUavWZrkLbt97fab =w/+Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.
Unfortunately, not all mail providers offer IMAP. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 of July 2010, ianseeks wrote:
HI
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
I once needed to do this with gmail. I ended up resetting POP support, downloading all email since I created the account and deleting the duplicates.
regards Ian
Regards, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 21:35:12 ianseeks wrote:
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
I am adding the fix to the bug to our packages. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072 which looks like it could cause a lot of random behaviour when fetching POP mail. There will be an online update Will. -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 August 2010 14:49:19 Will Stephenson wrote: > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 21:35:12 ianseeks wrote: > > I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over > > a 2 year period. > > Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there > > anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been > > retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them. > > I am adding the fix to the bug to our packages. > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072 > which looks like it could cause a lot of random behaviour when fetching > POP mail. There will be an online update > > Will. > > > -- > Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus > Rex > Great, hopefully this might fix my reported bug 245943 that no-one seems to have checked yet even though its marked Major. regards ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 Aug 2010 14:49:19 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 21:35:12 ianseeks wrote:
I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
I am adding the fix to the bug to our packages. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072 which looks like it could cause a lot of random behaviour when fetching POP mail. There will be an online update
Will.
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex Just upgraded to opensuse 11.3 and KMail Version 1.13.5 Using KDE Development Platform 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2". The problem still exists - bug 245943 i've now updated the comments on 230072 with my issue in case its relevant -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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