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Chris Arnold

13 Jun 2008 13 Jun '08

16:32

I am thinking about getting a WD Mybook but their site says it only works with Windoze and MAC. I use opensuse 11 RC1 now but when 11.0 comes out i will use that. So, does anyone know if there is Linux software just like the WD MyBook (win) software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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John Andersen

13 Jun 13 Jun

17:06

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:

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I am thinking about getting a WD Mybook but their site says it only works with Windoze and MAC. I use opensuse 11 RC1 now but when 11.0 comes out i will use that. So, does anyone know if there is Linux software just like the WD MyBook (win) software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11? --

Mine works fine on Opensuse 10.3. In fact, I've re-partitioned it to Reiserfs, and use it for automated backups. I can leave it plugged in all the time, but when my script dismounts the disk it will shut down the drive after a little while leaving only the electronics running. As soon as the backup script fires up and mounts the drive again it spools up. There is a few of windows specific pieces of software for backup and sharing and (in some models) sharing over the web, but I've never used those. Its been absolutely trouble free. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jack Malone

17:11

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Chris Arnold 6/13/2008 11:32 AM >>> I am thinking about getting a WD Mybook but their site says it only works with Windoze and MAC. I use opensuse 11 RC1 now but when 11.0 comes out i will use that. So, does anyone know if there is Linux software just like the WD MyBook (win) software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11? -- What that means is it only comes with software for windows an mac. You can format the drive to a linux format an use tar to backup with, are any other linux backup software that comes with suse. I do not use this drive but I have used ones from seagate to copy over files to that I wanted to keep.

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Chris Arnold

17:18

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What that means is it only comes with software for windows an mac. You can format the drive to a linux format an use tar to backup >with, are any other linux backup software that comes with suse. I do not use this drive but I have used ones from seagate to copy over files to that I wanted to keep.

I understand that but what i am looking for is software that acts like the WD MyBook software. With a gui and allows you to "see" the files in the backup. So, if i want to restore, say 3 files, i could browse the backup and restore those 3 files to either the original location or a different destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen

17:29

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:

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What that means is it only comes with software for windows an mac. You can format the drive to a linux format an use tar to backup >with, are any other linux backup software that comes with suse. I do not use this drive but I have used ones from seagate to copy over files to that I wanted to keep.

I understand that but what i am looking for is software that acts like the WD MyBook software. With a gui and allows you to "see" the files in the backup. So, if i want to restore, say 3 files, i could browse the backup and restore those 3 files to either the original location or a different destination.

Yes such exist. Some free, some pretty cheap. http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/backuptools1.htm Most of those are available for opensuse as well as debian. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Daniel Bauer

19:52

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What that means is it only comes with software for windows an mac. You can

On Friday 13 June 2008 19:18:48, Chris Arnold wrote: format the drive to a linux format an use tar to backup >with, are any other linux backup software that comes with suse.

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I do not use this drive but I have used ones from seagate to copy over files to that I wanted to keep.

I understand that but what i am looking for is software that acts like the WD MyBook software. With a gui and allows you to "see" the files in the backup. So, if i want to restore, say 3 files, i could browse the backup and restore those 3 files to either the original location or a different destination.

I use a 1 TB WD MyBook with openSuse. I formatted it in 4 partitions with YAST (reiserfs, just because I am used to it), 3 of them encrypted (using Yast, very easy... when attaching the USB I am asked for the password), 1 "normal" for music etc. where there is no need to protect the data. I use simple tar commands that I have written down to simple text files which I made executable, gave them meaningful names.sh and put them in a directory "backup" on my desktop. I can now simply click the desired backup-"script". To restore or have a look at the backupped files I can use konqueror, I can even look at the compressed files and take out one of them per drag and drop. Can you have more "GUI"? Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com erotic art photos: http://www.bauer-nudes.com Madagascar special: http://www.fotograf-basel.ch/madagascar/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Clayton

17:16

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I am thinking about getting a WD Mybook but their site says it only works with Windoze and MAC. I use opensuse 11 RC1 now but when 11.0 comes out i will use that. So, does anyone know if there is Linux software just like the WD MyBook (win) software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11?

There is lots of backup software and options available in Linux... you can go as simple as a daily cron job that copies your data to another location (like an external drive), or you can use apps like Bacula, KDE's Keep, mirrordir, mondo etc etc. Check your prices... you usually pay more for the custom backup drives over just a SATA drive in a USB housing. You pay more to get the no-brainer-custom-software.... which you can't use anyway. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael Mientus

17 Jun 17 Jun

01:21

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:

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software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11?

I just use a soft RAID 1 with a pair of internal SATA drives. It was easy to set up during my openSuSE 10.3 install. This won't give you snapshots or SneakerNET. But you don't have to do anything to back up. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

02:35

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Mientus wrote:

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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:

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software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11?

I just use a soft RAID 1 with a pair of internal SATA drives. It was easy to set up during my openSuSE 10.3 install. This won't give you snapshots or SneakerNET. But you don't have to do anything to back up.

You're kidding, right? I bet less than 10% of data loss is caused by hard drive failure, and that is the only one you have covered. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Matt Archer

16:25

Michael Mientus wrote:

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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:

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software that will allow me to backup my data on opensuse 11?

I just use a soft RAID 1 with a pair of internal SATA drives. It was easy to set up during my openSuSE 10.3 install. This won't give you snapshots or SneakerNET. But you don't have to do anything to back up.

Repeat after me: Mirroring is NOT a backup strategy. When you or software accidentally DELETE or CORRUPT by normal means, what happens to the mirrored image of that file? So... then, where's your backup copy?

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Michael Mientus

21 Jun 21 Jun

19:52

@Greg

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You're kidding, right?

I only want a copy. @Matt

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So... then, where's your backup copy?

I rsync to another partition when I need a backup of openSuSE before upgrading or configuring. I don't need previous revisions of photos and music. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

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@Greg

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You're kidding, right?

I only want a copy.

@Matt

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So... then, where's your backup copy?

I rsync to another partition when I need a backup of openSuSE before upgrading or configuring. I don't need previous revisions of photos and music.

So, after the upgrade you delete the backup, and then, you have NO backup. More: if you backup to another partition, remember that there are accidents that can destroy both the original and the backup partition. What Matt says is absolutely true: a raid is not a backup, it doesn't cover you from many types of disaster. For instance: - You accidentally delete a file: lost for ever. - The kernel has a bug, corrupts the filesystem. Both copies of the mirror are destroyed simultaneously, every thing is lost. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIXWJntTMYHG2NR9URAryfAJ0QqlXpNkchpyi9yoxVZAd05DrGwgCfbte2 kMomZQLsee8Z65o7q0zyRYI= =CuPd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael Mientus

27 Jun 27 Jun

14:59

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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So, after the upgrade you delete the backup, and then, you have NO backup.

I don't delete the backup.

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More: if you backup to another partition, remember that there are accidents that can destroy both the original and the backup partition.

I use a shell script.

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What Matt says is absolutely true: a raid is not a backup, it doesn't cover you from many types of disaster.

For instance:

- You accidentally delete a file: lost for ever.

This is not a requirement of my backup.

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- The kernel has a bug, corrupts the filesystem. Both copies of the mirror are destroyed simultaneously, every thing is lost.

Not worried about it. You left out comet strikes, flooding, earthquakes, fire, theft, tornados, and volcano eruptions. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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