[opensuse] migrate from photoshop to darktable?
Are they functional equivalents? If yes, does DT have anything to facilitate migration? Besides Anton, do any of the regulars here routinely use it? I've never tried DT or PS. I have been dabbling with Gimp for years, but haven't really learned much other than cropping and scaling. This isn't about me. It's for my sister, whose lifeblood depends on income from her photographic magic. Her oldest son has been her admin since I boosted his computing interest while he was in his teens, but he's apparently been less supportive since he passed 30 and started spending half his time out of house, town, state or country. He has her on a Macbook Retina running Win7 (whether VM or multiboot I'm not sure, but I think VM) to do roughly half of her work via remote to a PC running Win7. She's also Quickbooks dependent. Most storage is between the PC and her son's big RAID on Leap. Sooner or later Win7 is going to have to go. It seems like migrating off Photoshop before migrating off Win7 might make her life less difficult, and might be something I can help her with. Any comment or suggestions? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-03-15 7:08 p.m., Felix Miata wrote:
Are they functional equivalents?
In the broadest sense, yes. In details, no. I'm not sure learning one will amount to easily' transportable skills' to the other.
If yes, does DT have anything to facilitate migration?
Not that I know of, but some aggressive and creative googling might uncover something. It depends, I suppose, on how good you are at abstraction. I got a book on doing colour->B&W transformation and tuning for PS. The commands, the control sliders illustrated were different from the ones I use in DT, but it was not difficult for me to do the mental transposition. It will, I suppose, depend on what you do. A 'PS for Dummies" or similar will be of absolutely no use for DT. DT is extremely well documented, and there is an active mailing list, but lets face it: this is a very complicated piece of software and the learning curve for either of them goes a long long way up.
Besides Anton, do any of the regulars here routinely use it?
I've never tried DT or PS. I have been dabbling with Gimp for years, but haven't really learned much other than cropping and scaling.
GIMP is about layers. Ultimately it is a pixel editor. Photoshop is about layers. Ultimately it is a pixel editor. DT isn't. DT, and to a large degree lightroom (and a few others), are PHOTO EDITORS. You might say they are "photographer's tools" rather than "graphic designer's tools". While you can repair faulty bits, that's not the intent. They are concerned with things like dynamic range, white balance and more, things specific to PHOTOS and cameras and lenses.
This isn't about me. It's for my sister, whose lifeblood depends on income from her photographic magic. [...]
He has her on a Macbook Retina running Win7 (whether VM or multiboot I'm not sure, but I think VM) to do roughly half of her work via remote to a PC running Win7. She's also Quickbooks dependent.
IIR there is a DT native for the MAC as well as Windows. Given she's got W7 I don't know ... There are reports that the current version, 2.6 series and later, has serious problem on Win7 but is OK on Win10. I'd go for native on the MAC. IIR MAC graphics is pretty good. And DT for the MAC has the heritage of the open environment/unix-like and was co-developed with the Linux implementation. The Windows version seems to be an afterthought to appease the windows weebies who are scared of Linux and can't afford a MAC. I feel there is not a great deal of commitment behind the Windows version. By all reports the MAC version is a bit more slick than the Linux version. After all, the MAC comes with pretty damn good graphics capability as a baseline. I'd love to be able to afford one of the powerful gaming-glass water-cooled graphics boards and a large wide-screen. Unlike GIMP DT does not have tear-off controls. That's my greatest complaint about it. My 19" screen is good in full-screen mode and I'd use my old 15" flat panel for the controls if DT could do that.
Most storage is between the PC and her son's big RAID on Leap. Sooner or later Win7 is going to have to go. It seems like migrating off Photoshop before migrating off Win7 might make her life less difficult, and might be something I can help her with.
Any comment or suggestions?
Behind all the Linux photo editors is 'dcraw'. That's where the info about cameras is made available to the application programs like DT, rawtherapee, ufraw, dcraw, gphoto2. You might also take a look at 'lightzone' which is written in Java. It too is a complex program but has a different UI and might be more comfortable. https://www.dpreview.com/news/2776812471/free-lightroom-alternative-darktabl... https://www.dpreview.com/news/4218514945/darktable-2-6-0-update-brings-new-r... -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [03-15-19 20:31]: [...]
You might also take a look at 'lightzone' which is written in Java. It too is a complex program but has a different UI and might be more comfortable.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/2776812471/free-lightroom-alternative-darktabl...
https://www.dpreview.com/news/4218514945/darktable-2-6-0-update-brings-new-r...
lightzone is considerable different than either darktable or ps. best efforts would be to learn *one* and not be concerned about the others. dt is more functionally equilivant to Corel's AfterShotPro which I find an aboration. BibblePro(5) was quite good in the day before being sold to Corel which sells it but, imnsho, does little else to support it. moving from bibble to dt was quite ease for me and I have never looked back. lightzone has also had very little support. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 16/03/2019 à 00:08, Felix Miata a écrit :
Are they functional equivalents?
not at all. Photoshop is a general photo editor, much more alike GIMP darktable is a raw file editor, a GIMP companion if you like
If yes, does DT have anything to facilitate migration?
nope
Besides Anton, do any of the regulars here routinely use it?
no, I rarely use raw files. I use digikam for most of my work (an application more like Lightroom)
Any comment or suggestions?
I think digikam and darktable exists for Linux/windows/mac, but have no experience on mac :-( jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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