zentara writes:

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I need to scan some small wiring diagrams, drawings, etc. but the file size is important.

Which tends to be smaller, tiff, bmp, etc?

The convert them to .jpg at a about 70% quality setting in Gimp. Your jpgs should look good and be about 40k.

JPEG is good for photographs but I wouldn't use it for line drawings. See DjVu (http://www.djvuzone.org/). For scanned documents, the DjVu format gives excellent quality and size. I don't understand why so few people use it. SuSE 8.1 contains djvulibre-3.5.8-22.rpm. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se

Harry G writes:

So what I need is the format that preserves readability with the smallest amount of space used that can be opened by W$ and Linux.

I suggest you try it first and then decide. Install the djvulibre package, it contains the Netscape plugin. (/opt/mozilla/plugins/nsdejavu.so is a symlink to /opt/netscape/plugins/nsdejavu.so). Restart Mozilla, check the plugin is installed and go to http://www.djvuzone.org/djvu/uva/tj_letters/index.html to see an example. Plugins for MSIE can be downloaded from http://www.djvuzone.org/. The Netscape plugin works with Konqueror too - just go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Netscape Plugins and push "Scan for New Plugins" and "OK". -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se

On Saturday 28 December 2002 11:57, Harry G wrote:

It looks good, but what I am doing is storing the diagrams, etc. on a web site for download. I use Oracle Small Business on line

Another alternative then would be PDF. It also has very good compression rates and outputs small downloadables while being there for every platform. The full program is about 200$ or so and well worth it for compatibility. I don't think it comes in a Linux version, but then again I have not checked. ----- Doug

On Sunday 29 December 2002 18:00, Paul Mooney wrote:

On Sunday 29 December 2002 00:27, Doug Glenn wrote:

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On Saturday 28 December 2002 11:57, Harry G wrote:

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It looks good, but what I am doing is storing the diagrams, etc. on a web site for download. I use Oracle Small Business on line

Another alternative then would be PDF. It also has very good compression rates and outputs small downloadables while being there for every platform. The full program is about 200$ or so and well worth it for compatibility. I don't think it comes in a Linux version, but then again I have not checked.

----- Doug

A few weeks back saw a discussion where it was suggested that setting printer options to PDF (rather than to lp) allowed files in this format to be produced.

Seemed to be ok for me - see attachment.

Guess which pillock forgot to add the attachment? Paul M

The 02.12.28 at 15:53, Alexandr Malusek wrote:

See DjVu (http://www.djvuzone.org/). For scanned documents, the DjVu format gives excellent quality and size. I don't understand why so few people use it.

Probably because nobody heard of it... Till I read this mail, I didn't know of its existence.

SuSE 8.1 contains djvulibre-3.5.8-22.rpm.

But neither gimp nor xsane support it, and that is _very_ important. How do I create documente, easily? I read the "man djvu" page, which is very interesting, but it is far from clear - there are no examples. Do I have to create a jpeg image, and then convert? How? Will that be in "DjVuDocument" format? Ie, one DjVuBitonal layer, and one DjVuPhoto layer. How about multi page documents? And how about a howto? O:-? You see... it is not easy for newcomers to the format. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson