[S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. install does not have my CD-ROM
Hello. I purchased S.u.S.E. Linux 5.2, because I have been told it is the most user friendly Linux version of all. And it just arrived this morning. However, right at the beginning of install, to my dismay, my CD-ROM was not on the list of CD-ROMs to select! They only have three EIDE selections, with the rest all SCSI. What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM. I have test-installed both Slackware and Redhat, prior to S.u.S.E....so I know very well that the "sbpcd" CD-ROM should be recognizable. In fact, it is even listed as acceptable, in their own S.u.S.E. manual! But nowhere is there an answer in the manual, as to how to install, using the "sbpcd" option. (Likewise for their online help docs at www.suse.com.) Did someone make a mistake here, by neglecting to include "sbpcd" on the selection list of CD-ROMs? I can't believe they did this! After all, knowing for sure that my type of CD-ROM is definitely acceptable in Linux...I never dreamed their "user-friendly" S.u.S.E. installation would leave this out! I am stuck without knowing what to do about this...and rather disappointed. Is anyone familiar with installing S.u.S.E. 5.2 from CD-ROM? Thanks in advance. --- My web site kicks (but never licks) butt! <A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/"><A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A">http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hello. I purchased S.u.S.E. Linux 5.2, because I have been told it is the most user friendly Linux version of all. And it just arrived this morning. However, right at the beginning of install, to my dismay, my CD-ROM was not on the list of CD-ROMs to select! They only have three EIDE selections, with the rest all SCSI. What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
With all cdrom/network cards/tape install, you must do a autodetect modules before you install ... soundblaster eide is a module... you can go straigt to it and enter the address and irq, etc... but SuSE should be able to get it with no problem... It's one of the great benifits to SuSE over RH and CALDERA...
I am stuck without knowing what to do about this...and rather disappointed. Is anyone familiar with installing S.u.S.E. 5.2 from CD-ROM? Thanks in advance.
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At 01:22 AM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote:
What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
With all cdrom/network cards/tape install, you must do a autodetect modules before you install ... soundblaster eide is a module... you can go straigt to it and enter the address and irq, etc... but SuSE should be able to get it with no problem... > It's one of the great benifits to SuSE over RH and CALDERA...
Perhaps you are not familiar with the installation process of SuSE 5.2. I start the installation by running setup.exe from the CD. Early on, I get to the menu of selecting a CD-ROM drive type. A list of types appears, from which I must select. As I already stated, there are three EIDE options, and a whole slew of SCSI choices...but no "sbpcd" or other non- EIDE/SCSI option. There is no "autodetect" option, either. If this is a "benefit" of SuSE over Red Hat, I am frightened to think of what further "benefits" I'll encounter! You are probably thinking of RedHat 5.0's installation process, which is somewhat different from this version of SuSE...and which does include "autodetect" in the list of CD-ROM types. My impression is that whoever designed the SuSE installation, made a boo-boo, and left out some of the basic CD-ROM options. When the CD-ROM list is displayed, on the screen is also the statement: If you need more information take a look at '\suse\images\readme.dos' on the first CD. So after exiting, I did just that. The doc was brief, and was merely the same list that was displayed on screen. In fact, here it is: ---begin readme.dos A short description of the kernels/bootdisks: All kernels are modularized. This means that almost all drivers are loaded as kernel modules. As there are some drivers which cause trouble when used as module, there are additional kernels which contain the corresponding driver compiled in. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- eide01: Standard kernel. Should run on any hardware. If you are unsure, please try this disk first! eide02: Like eide01, but support for special EIDE chipsets. eide03: Kernel without support for accessing the PCI-BIOS. Use only if you have problems with other kernels! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following kernels contain the mentioned SCSI driver compiled in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- scsi01: aic7xxx (Adaptec 274x/284x/294x) scsi02: BusLogic (all models) scsi03: NCR 53C(78)xx scsi04: NCR 53C8XX (BSD-driver) scsi05: Adaptec 1542 scsi06: Adaptec 1740 scsi07: Adaptec 1505/151x/152x/2825 scsi08: EATA (E)ISA (PM2011/021/012 etc) scsi09: EATA EATA-DMA (DPT, NEC, AT&T, SNI etc.) scsi10: AM53C974 scsi11: Future Domain 16xx scsi12: AdvanSys scsi13: DTC 3180/3280 scsi14: EATA-PIO (old DPT PM2001, PM2012A) scsi15: Always IN 2000 scsi16: Pro Audio Spectrum SCSI scsi17: IOMEGA Parallel Port ZIP drive scsi18: Qlogic FAS scsi19: Qlogic ISP scsi20: Seagate ST-02/Fut. Domain TMC-8xx scsi21: Trantor T128/T128F/T228 scsi22: UltraStor 14F/34F scsi23: UltraStor (alternative driver) scsi24: Western Digital 7000 FASST scsi25: GDT SCSI Disk Array (ICP Vortex) scsi26: NCR53c406a scsi27: Generic NCR5380/53c400 scsi28: Tekram DC-390(T) ---end readme.dos I have also gone to their help site at www.suse.com...not a darn thing to help me with this problem. Nothing in their 400+ page manual either. I have also posted my problem to them...after of course wading through a sea of type appealing me to make sure I have first left no stone unturned--and combed through my manual, their faq pages, and a plethora of other docs--before posting my question. I am, of course, waiting on their response. If there is some other way to interface the CD-ROM as a prelude to setup, it is beyond the ability of the S.u.S.E. manual, or their "help" site, to reveal such information. --- My web site kicks (but never licks) butt! <A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/"><A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A">http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
At 01:22 AM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote:
What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
With all cdrom/network cards/tape install, you must do a autodetect modules before you install ... soundblaster eide is a module... you can go straigt to it and enter the address and irq, etc... but SuSE should be able to get it with no problem... > It's one of the great benifits to SuSE over RH and CALDERA...
Perhaps you are not familiar with the installation process of SuSE 5.2. I start the installation by running setup.exe from the CD. Early on, I get to the menu of selecting a CD-ROM drive type. A list of types appears, from which I must select. As I already stated, there are three EIDE options, and a whole slew of SCSI choices...but no "sbpcd" or other non- EIDE/SCSI option. There is no "autodetect" option, either.
If this is a "benefit" of SuSE over Red Hat, I am frightened to think of what further "benefits" I'll encounter!
You are probably thinking of RedHat 5.0's installation process, which is somewhat different from this version of SuSE...and which does include "autodetect" in the list of CD-ROM types. My impression is that whoever designed the SuSE installation, made a boo-boo, and left out some of the basic CD-ROM options.
When the CD-ROM list is displayed, on the screen is also the statement:
If you need more information take a look at '\suse\images\readme.dos' on the first CD.
So after exiting, I did just that. The doc was brief, and was merely the same list that was displayed on screen. In fact, here it is:
---begin readme.dos
A short description of the kernels/bootdisks:
All kernels are modularized. This means that almost all drivers are loaded as kernel modules. As there are some drivers which cause trouble when used as module, there are additional kernels which contain the corresponding driver compiled in.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- eide01: Standard kernel. Should run on any hardware. If you are unsure, please try this disk first!
eide02: Like eide01, but support for special EIDE chipsets. eide03: Kernel without support for accessing the PCI-BIOS. Use only if you have problems with other kernels!
I'm assuming that you 5.2 distribution diskette with the distribution cdrom(s)... if you start your computer and boot the boot disk, it takes you to a series of menues after the boot prompt... the first asks if you want german, english, or itailian... the second asks you for a color or monochrome display... the following menu is the "Main menu" it has options: Settings, System Information, Kernel Modules (Hardware Drivers), Start Installation/system, and end/reboot.... If you go to the kernel modules option, you will see a list: Load SCSI module Load CD-ROM module Load network card module Load PCMCIA modules Show loaded modules Unload modules Autoload of modules If you select "Autoload of modules" it should start probing for you sound card/network cards, etc... it uses some of things things as kernel parameters when booting default kernels to find cdroms... If "Autoload of modules" fails to see your soundcard, go to "Load CD-ROM module" and the elevanth item on the list will be: sbpcd : SBPCD (Matsushita/Panasonic etc.) You will have to enter the IO address and IRQ like: sbpcd=0x230,1 If your controller is set to 230 IObase and DMA 1, the above example should work... If you don't enter anything it will start probing and you can see the output on ALT-F4... It goes through the standard settings for the soundblaster... If you don't have a bootdisk, make one either under yast or look in the SuSE 5.2 manual pages 130 and 131... Goodluck... I hope you come to enjoy SuSE as much as I have... Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01@slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Ezekiel J. Krahlin wrote:
Hello. I purchased S.u.S.E. Linux 5.2, because I have been told it is the most user friendly Linux version of all. And it just arrived this morning. However, right at the beginning of install, to my dismay, my CD-ROM was not on the list of CD-ROMs to select! They only have three EIDE selections, with the rest all SCSI. What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
I have test-installed both Slackware and Redhat, prior to S.u.S.E....so I know very well that the "sbpcd" CD-ROM should be recognizable. In fact, it is even listed as acceptable, in their own S.u.S.E. manual! But nowhere is there an answer in the manual, as to how to install, using the "sbpcd" option. (Likewise for their online help docs at www.suse.com.)
Ezekiel, Seems like you're overlooking the obvious. Start the install from the boot disk. Once language, color and keyboard are selected the next set of choices includes cdrom with sbpcd prominantly ther (might be on secind page of cdrom choices). It worked like a charm on a rather ancient machine with a first gen. sbpcd. Regards, Stu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
At 01:45 AM 5/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
EIDE selections, with the rest all SCSI. What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
Seems like you're overlooking the obvious. Start the install from the boot disk. Once language, color and keyboard are selected the next set of choices includes cdrom with sbpcd prominantly ther (might be on secind page of cdrom choices). It worked like a charm on a rather ancient machine with a first gen. sbpcd. Regards, Stu
Obvious? I am supposed to be able to install from CD-ROM, according to the SuSE manual. And I was able to do so with Slackware, and Red Hat. The whole reason I got the CD-ROM--in particular, SuSE 5.2--was to avoid older, more tedious installation methods. Else I may as well have FTP-downloaded the OS myself...and not paid $50 for the "convenience". Doesn't it seem strange to you that my sbpcd CD-ROM does not show up on the list...or an "autoprobe" option? On the CD-ROM install, once I select language, color and keyboard, I am presented with this list of CD-ROM types...minus the one I need. This has never occurred to me, when I installed RedHat and Slackware. I don't see anything obvious about this situation...instead, I find it downright absurd. --- My web site kicks (but never licks) butt! <A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/"><A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A">http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
At 01:45 AM 5/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
EIDE selections, with the rest all SCSI. What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
Seems like you're overlooking the obvious. Start the install from the boot disk. Once language, color and keyboard are selected the next set of choices includes cdrom with sbpcd prominantly ther (might be on secind page of cdrom choices). It worked like a charm on a rather ancient machine with a first gen. sbpcd. Regards, Stu
Obvious? I am supposed to be able to install from CD-ROM, according to the SuSE manual. And I was able to do so with Slackware, and Red Hat. The whole reason I got the CD-ROM--in particular, SuSE 5.2--was to avoid older, more tedious installation methods. Else I may as well have FTP-downloaded the OS myself...and not paid $50 for the "convenience".
Doesn't it seem strange to you that my sbpcd CD-ROM does not show up on the list...or an "autoprobe" option? On the CD-ROM install, once I select language, color and keyboard, I am presented with this list of CD-ROM types...minus the one I need. This has never occurred to me, when I installed RedHat and Slackware. I don't see anything obvious about this situation...instead, I find it downright absurd.
Look Dude, Maybe you should stick with RH or Slackware... It seems as if you are more familiar with their installation processes that with SuSE... If you don't like SuSE, then don't use it... SuSE has a lot to offer a computer and is the EASIEST of any distribution I've installed... I did do some reading the first time, because I didn't expect everything to be the same as RH/Caldera/Slackware... Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01@slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Look, I hate to sound intolerant, but you simply aren't getting it. You boot off the boot floppy, then you install off the cd. This isn't particularly arcane or hard to grasp. What exactly are you trying to do? Install from windows? Normally I don't think this is particularly constructive, but in your case my advice to you is RTFM. Ezekiel J. Krahlin wrote:
At 01:45 AM 5/20/98 -0500:
Obvious? I am supposed to be able to install from CD-ROM, according to the SuSE manual. And I was able to do so with Slackware, and Red Hat. The whole reason I got the CD-ROM--in particular, SuSE 5.2--was to avoid older, more tedious installation methods. Else I may as well have FTP-downloaded the OS myself...and not paid $50 for the "convenience".
Doesn't it seem strange to you that my sbpcd CD-ROM does not show up on the list...or an "autoprobe" option? On the CD-ROM install, once I select language, color and keyboard, I am presented with this list of CD-ROM types...minus the one I need. This has never occurred to me, when I installed RedHat and Slackware. I don't see anything obvious about this situation...instead, I find it downright absurd.
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. What exactly are you trying to do? Install from windows? RTFM. on some of my early installs, i thot the warning was a joke, yet i did install linux on a dos partition...hehehe...it was a smashing success...hhh...j/k -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
At 08:37 PM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote:
. What exactly are you trying to do? Install from windows? RTFM.
on some of my early installs, i thot the warning was a joke, yet i did install linux on a dos partition...hehehe...it was a smashing success...hhh...j/k
Yes, well, that is not at all my situation. I was attempting to install SuSE to a Linux-partitioned drive. Your friend who suggested I tried to install under Windoze, is apparantly not quick enough to provide a useful suggestion...hence, resorts to making the other party appear stupid. Would that such snobbishness and catty attitudes be limited to the M$ community, but alas, the Linux community has 'em too! --- My web site kicks (but never licks) butt! <A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/"><A HREF="http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A">http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Tue, 19 May 1998, Ezekiel J. Krahlin wrote:
Hello. I purchased S.u.S.E. Linux 5.2, because I have been told it is the most user friendly Linux version of all. And it just arrived this morning. However, right at the beginning of install, to my dismay, my CD-ROM was not on the list of CD-ROMs to select! They only have three EIDE selections, with the rest all SCSI. What happened to my "sbpcd" option I expected? Of course, when I select any EIDE option, Linux says it can't find my CD-ROM.
All of our kernels are modularized, so you'll have to load the needed driver. Start the installation (either from DOS via setup.exe or from floppy). Normally you can use the provided bootdisk or when starting from DOS, just choose the first kernel (eide01). Once linuxrc starts, it will ask you for the language, the screen and the keytable. After answering that, go to the "Kernel modules" menu and choose "Load CD-ROM module". There you'll find the driver for you sbpcd CD-ROM. Avoid autoprobing with this piece of hardware because it can take _very_ long.
I have test-installed both Slackware and Redhat, prior to S.u.S.E....so I know very well that the "sbpcd" CD-ROM should be recognizable. In fact, it is even listed as acceptable, in their own S.u.S.E. manual! But nowhere is there an answer in the manual, as to how to install, using the "sbpcd" option. (Likewise for their online help docs at www.suse.com.)
Did someone make a mistake here, by neglecting to include "sbpcd" on the selection list of CD-ROMs? I can't believe they did this! After all, knowing for sure that my type of CD-ROM is definitely acceptable in Linux...I never dreamed their "user-friendly" S.u.S.E. installation would leave this out!
I am stuck without knowing what to do about this...and rather disappointed. Is anyone familiar with installing S.u.S.E. 5.2 from CD-ROM?
On of our test machines has an ancient sbpcd-CD-ROM. Installation works fine.
Thanks in advance.
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