[opensuse] rpm check
Hi, This machine crashed while YaST was updating it and installing things. Hard crash, the filesystem became R/O (the disk is removable, it is in a caddy). Bad filesystem corruption, automatic fsck on boot failed, had to fsck from another disk. So some files are broken, and I find them now and then. Thunar had broken libraries, for instance. Now there is another when I run VLC: cer@linux-backup:/tmp/mozilla_cer0> vlc 27566544_559085681122620_5011855560279064576_n.mp4 vlc: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib64/libvlc.so.5: file too short So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system? I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms. In the case of VLC I'm going to force update all installed packman packages. Brute force attack. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
How about this: # for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done -Nick On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
Hi,
This machine crashed while YaST was updating it and installing things. Hard crash, the filesystem became R/O (the disk is removable, it is in a caddy). Bad filesystem corruption, automatic fsck on boot failed, had to fsck from another disk.
So some files are broken, and I find them now and then. Thunar had broken libraries, for instance. Now there is another when I run VLC:
cer@linux-backup:/tmp/mozilla_cer0> vlc 27566544_559085681122620_5011855560279064576_n.mp4 vlc: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib64/libvlc.so.5: file too short
So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system?
I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms.
In the case of VLC I'm going to force update all installed packman packages. Brute force attack.
-- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1))
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On 2018-02-01 22:58, Nick LeRoy wrote:
How about this:
# for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done
-Nick
Thanks, I'm running that one now, seems to work. The list is long, though: linux-backup:~ # for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done | tee rpm-verify-for libtheora0-1.1.1-31.3.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-3.3.x86_64 libsigc-2_0-0-2.8.0-4.3.x86_64 libcaca0-0.99.beta19-6.7.x86_64 xfconf-4.12.1-42.2.x86_64 libupnp6-1.6.21-5.1.x86_64 libaa1-1.4.0-509.3.x86_64 libSDL_image-1_2-0-1.2.12-15.3.x86_64 libqt4-x11-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libvcdinfo0-0.7.24cvs-16.3.x86_64 libiso9660-10-0.93-7.3.x86_64 mpg123-pulse-1.25.7-10.1.x86_64 openSUSE-release-42.3-1.202.x86_64 SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch libsoxr0-0.1.2-4.3.x86_64 wicked-service-0.6.40-9.1.x86_64 libatkmm-1_6-1-2.24.2-3.4.x86_64 postfix-3.2.0-1.4.x86_64 grub2-2.02-4.1.x86_64 libavc1394-0-0.5.4-18.3.x86_64 shadow-4.2.1-10.1.x86_64 gimp-plugin-aa-2.8.18-6.3.x86_64 yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.2.3-1.1.noarch libdvbpsi10-1.3.0-6.3.x86_64 libmad0-0.15.1b-2.1.x86_64 libgtop-2_0-10-2.34.1-3.1.x86_64 libqt4-sql-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 java-1_8_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.2-4.1.x86_64 ... and continues... I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-( (reading man) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-01 23:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 22:58, Nick LeRoy wrote:
How about this:
# for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done
-Nick
Thanks, I'm running that one now, seems to work. The list is long, though:
linux-backup:~ # for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done | tee rpm-verify-for libtheora0-1.1.1-31.3.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-3.3.x86_64 libsigc-2_0-0-2.8.0-4.3.x86_64 libcaca0-0.99.beta19-6.7.x86_64 xfconf-4.12.1-42.2.x86_64 libupnp6-1.6.21-5.1.x86_64 libaa1-1.4.0-509.3.x86_64 libSDL_image-1_2-0-1.2.12-15.3.x86_64 libqt4-x11-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libvcdinfo0-0.7.24cvs-16.3.x86_64 libiso9660-10-0.93-7.3.x86_64 mpg123-pulse-1.25.7-10.1.x86_64 openSUSE-release-42.3-1.202.x86_64 SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch libsoxr0-0.1.2-4.3.x86_64 wicked-service-0.6.40-9.1.x86_64 libatkmm-1_6-1-2.24.2-3.4.x86_64 postfix-3.2.0-1.4.x86_64 grub2-2.02-4.1.x86_64 libavc1394-0-0.5.4-18.3.x86_64 shadow-4.2.1-10.1.x86_64 gimp-plugin-aa-2.8.18-6.3.x86_64 yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.2.3-1.1.noarch libdvbpsi10-1.3.0-6.3.x86_64 libmad0-0.15.1b-2.1.x86_64 libgtop-2_0-10-2.34.1-3.1.x86_64 libqt4-sql-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 java-1_8_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.2-4.1.x86_64 ...
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
Wait, not so fast... I should reinstall packages with files of different size on verification, not all of them. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos, In that case, I think that you need to not use the --quiet argument, and manually select the RPMs that you want to reinstall. -Nick On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 22:58, Nick LeRoy wrote:
How about this:
# for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done
-Nick
Thanks, I'm running that one now, seems to work. The list is long, though:
linux-backup:~ # for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done | tee rpm-verify-for libtheora0-1.1.1-31.3.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-3.3.x86_64 libsigc-2_0-0-2.8.0-4.3.x86_64 libcaca0-0.99.beta19-6.7.x86_64 xfconf-4.12.1-42.2.x86_64 libupnp6-1.6.21-5.1.x86_64 libaa1-1.4.0-509.3.x86_64 libSDL_image-1_2-0-1.2.12-15.3.x86_64 libqt4-x11-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libvcdinfo0-0.7.24cvs-16.3.x86_64 libiso9660-10-0.93-7.3.x86_64 mpg123-pulse-1.25.7-10.1.x86_64 openSUSE-release-42.3-1.202.x86_64 SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch libsoxr0-0.1.2-4.3.x86_64 wicked-service-0.6.40-9.1.x86_64 libatkmm-1_6-1-2.24.2-3.4.x86_64 postfix-3.2.0-1.4.x86_64 grub2-2.02-4.1.x86_64 libavc1394-0-0.5.4-18.3.x86_64 shadow-4.2.1-10.1.x86_64 gimp-plugin-aa-2.8.18-6.3.x86_64 yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.2.3-1.1.noarch libdvbpsi10-1.3.0-6.3.x86_64 libmad0-0.15.1b-2.1.x86_64 libgtop-2_0-10-2.34.1-3.1.x86_64 libqt4-sql-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 java-1_8_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.2-4.1.x86_64 ...
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
Wait, not so fast... I should reinstall packages with files of different size on verification, not all of them.
-- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1))
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On 2018-02-01 23:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 22:58, Nick LeRoy wrote:
How about this:
# for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done
-Nick
Thanks, I'm running that one now, seems to work. The list is long, though:
...
Wait, not so fast... I should reinstall packages with files of different size on verification, not all of them.
Ok, I took the "rpm -qaV" list, and edited it manually leaving all the files that were missing or qrong size. Then wrote a small script: #!/bin/bash while read FILES ; do rpm -qf $FILES done < /root/rpm-verify-zero And run it: linux-backup:~ # encontrar_rpms | sort | uniq > rpm-verify-uniq error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/ac-adapter.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-caution-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-caution.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-empty-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-empty.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-full-charged.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-full-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-full.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-good-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-good.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-low-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-low.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-missing.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/input-keyboard.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/input-mouse.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/tablet.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/uninterruptible-power-supply.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/ac-adapter.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-caution-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-caution.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-empty-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-empty.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-full-charged.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-full-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-full.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-good-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-good.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-low-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-low.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/battery-missing.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/display-brightness.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/input-keyboard.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/input-mouse.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/keyboard-brightness.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/tablet.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/uninterruptible-power-supply.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/ac-adapter-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/ac-adapter.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-caution-charging-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-caution-charging.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-caution-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-caution.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-empty-charging-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-empty-charging.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-empty-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-empty.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-full-charged-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-full-charged.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-full-charging-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-full-charging.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-full-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-full.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-good-charging-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-good-charging.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-good-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-good.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-low-charging-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-low-charging.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-low-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-low.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-missing-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/battery-missing.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/display-brightness-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/display-brightness.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/keyboard-brightness-symbolic.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/keyboard-brightness.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/tablet.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/uninterruptible-power-supply.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/xfce4-power-manager-settings.svg: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount: No such file or directory linux-backup:~ # Those are missing files, rpm fails to find the package. I may find them from the "pin" output. But those I find are these: So I have to reinstall at least these 67 packages: SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch exo-branding-openSUSE-4.12.0-174.4.noarch fontconfig-2.11.1-4.3.x86_64 fonts-config-20150424-6.3.noarch gigolo-0.4.2-46.2.x86_64 gigolo-lang-0.4.2-46.2.noarch gimp-plugin-aa-2.8.18-6.3.x86_64 grub2-2.02-4.1.x86_64 libSDL_image-1_2-0-1.2.12-15.3.x86_64 libaa1-1.4.0-509.3.x86_64 libatkmm-1_6-1-2.24.2-3.4.x86_64 libavc1394-0-0.5.4-18.3.x86_64 libcaca0-0.99.beta19-6.7.x86_64 libcairomm-1_0-1-1.12.0-4.5.x86_64 libdbh2-5.0.17-1.1.x86_64 libdc1394-22-2.2.3-5.3.x86_64 libdvbpsi10-1.3.0-6.3.x86_64 libebml4-1.3.5-5.1.x86_64 libftgl2-2.1.3~rc5-5.5.x86_64 libgiomm-2_4-1-2.48.1-3.3.x86_64 libglibmm-2_4-1-2.48.1-3.3.x86_64 libgtkmm-3_0-1-3.20.1-3.3.x86_64 libgtop-2_0-10-2.34.1-3.1.x86_64 libgtop-lang-2.34.1-3.1.noarch libid3tag0-0.15.1b-187.3.x86_64 libiso9660-10-0.93-7.3.x86_64 libmad0-0.15.1b-2.1.x86_64 libpangomm-1_4-1-2.40.1-3.4.x86_64 libprojectM2-2.1.0-17.3.x86_64 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-9.0-5.1.x86_64 libqt4-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libqt4-sql-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libqt4-sql-sqlite-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libqt4-x11-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libraw1394-11-2.1.0-8.3.x86_64 librfm3-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 libshout3-2.3.1-8.3.x86_64 libsigc-2_0-0-2.8.0-4.3.x86_64 libsoxr0-0.1.2-4.3.x86_64 libspeexdsp1-1.2~rc3-4.3.x86_64 libtheora0-1.1.1-31.3.x86_64 libtubo0-5.0.15-1.1.x86_64 libupnp6-1.6.21-5.1.x86_64 libvcdinfo0-0.7.24cvs-16.3.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-3.3.x86_64 libwnck-3-0-3.20.1-3.3.x86_64 libwnck-lang-3.20.1-3.3.noarch libxcb-composite0-1.11.1-9.1.x86_64 libxcb-xv0-1.11.1-9.1.x86_64 libzip2-0.11.1-9.1.x86_64 libzypp-16.17.7-18.1.x86_64 mpg123-pulse-1.25.7-10.1.x86_64 ntp-4.2.8p10-30.1.x86_64 postfix-3.2.0-1.4.x86_64 pulseaudio-9.0-5.1.x86_64 pulseaudio-bash-completion-9.0-5.1.x86_64 pulseaudio-lang-9.0-5.1.noarch pulseaudio-utils-9.0-5.1.x86_64 rfm-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 rodent-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 rodent-diff-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 rodent-fgr-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 rodent-ps-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 rtkit-0.11_git201205151338-13.4.x86_64 xfce4-power-manager-1.6.1-134.1.x86_64 xfce4-volumed-pulse-0.2.2-6.2.x86_64 xfconf-4.12.1-42.2.x86_64 Maybe edit that to a single line and feed to zypper. Or pipe. No, pipe doesn't work. Then edit the list, it is just once. Try first with --dry-run. Finally: linux-backup:~ # zypper install --force SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch exo-branding-openSUSE-4.12.0-174.4.noarch fontconfig-2.11.1-4.3.x86_64 fonts-config-20150424-6.3.noarch gigolo-0.4.2-46.2.x86_64 gigolo-lang-0.4.2-46.2.noarch gimp-plugin-aa-2.8.18-6.3.x86_64 grub2-2.02-4.1.x86_64 libSDL_image-1_2-0-1.2.12-15.3.x86_64 libaa1-1.4.0-509.3.x86_64 libatkmm-1_6-1-2.24.2-3.4.x86_64 libavc1394-0-0.5.4-18.3.x86_64 libcaca0-0.99.beta19-6.7.x86_64 libcairomm-1_0-1-1.12.0-4.5.x86_64 libdbh2-5.0.17-1.1.x86_64 libdc1394-22-2.2.3-5.3.x86_64 libdvbpsi10-1.3.0-6.3.x86_64 libebml4-1.3.5-5.1.x86_64 libftgl2-2.1.3~rc5-5.5.x86_64 libgiomm-2_4-1-2.48.1-3.3.x ... ... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Forcing installation of 'SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch' from repository 'Main Update Repository'. Forcing installation of 'exo-branding-openSUSE-4.12.0-174.4.noarch' from repository 'OBS X11 Xfce'. ... Resolving package dependencies... The following 3 applications are going to be installed: "Difference tool based on GNU (or BSD) diff" "Rodent System Process Information plugin" "Search tool based on fgr" The following NEW package is going to be installed: alsa-plugins-pulse The following 67 packages are going to be reinstalled: SuSEfirewall2 exo-branding-openSUSE fontconfig fonts-config gigolo gigolo-lang gimp-plugin-aa grub2 libSDL_image-1_2-0 libaa1 libatkmm-1_6-1 libavc1394-0 libcaca0 libcairomm-1_0-1 libdbh2 libdc1394-22 libdvbpsi10 libebml4 libftgl2 libgiomm-2_4-1 libglibmm-2_4-1 libgtkmm-3_0-1 libgtop-2_0-10 libgtop-lang libid3tag0 libiso9660-10 libmad0 libpangomm-1_4-1 libprojectM2 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libqt4 libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-x11 libraw1394-11 librfm3 libshout3 libsigc-2_0-0 libsoxr0 libspeexdsp1 libtheora0 libtubo0 libupnp6 libvcdinfo0 libwebrtc_audio_processing1 libwnck-3-0 libwnck-lang libxcb-composite0 libxcb-xv0 libzip2 libzypp mpg123-pulse ntp postfix pulseaudio pulseaudio-bash-completion pulseaudio-lang pulseaudio-utils rfm rodent rodent-diff rodent-fgr rodent-ps rtkit xfce4-power-manager xfce4-volumed-pulse xfconf 1 new package to install, 67 to reinstall. Overall download size: 31.7 MiB. Already cached: 582.5 KiB. After the operation, additional 84.2 KiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/...? shows all options] (y): ... (17/68) Installing: libiso9660-10-0.93-7.3.x86_64 ...........................................................................[done] Additional rpm output: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libgiomm-2.4.so.1 is empty, not checked. /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4.8.6 is empty, not checked. /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libtheora.so.0.3.10 is empty, not checked. /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libthreadutil.so.6 is empty, not checked. ... (18/68) Installing: libqt4-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 ................................................................................[done] Additional rpm output: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libgiomm-2.4.so.1 is empty, not checked. /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libtheora.so.0.3.10 is empty, not checked. /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib64/libthreadutil.so.6 is empty, not checked. ... 64/68) Installing: rodent-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 ..............................................................................[done] Additional rpm output: gtk-update-icon-cache: No theme index file. (65/68) Installing: rodent-ps-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 ...........................................................................[done] (66/68) Installing: rodent-fgr-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 ..........................................................................[done] (67/68) Installing: rodent-diff-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 .........................................................................[done] (68/68) Installing: alsa-plugins-pulse-1.1.4-1.1.x86_64 .....................................................................[done] Additional rpm output: Enabling PulseAudio for ALSA... Enabling PulseAudio for libao... Default driver is pulse already in /etc/libao.conf Enabling PulseAudio for mplayer... Enabling PulseAudio for OSS... Application aumix already setup for PulseAudio Application sox already setup for PulseAudio Enabling PulseAudio for SDL... Enabling PulseAudio for Timidity... Timidity already setup for using PulseAudio Enabling PulseAudio for Phonon... Enabling PulseAudio for Kmix... Enabling PulseAudio for speech dispatcher... Enabling PulseAudio for SoX... Setting auto sink/src for gstreamer Enabling PulseAudio for QEMU/KVM Enabling PulseAudio autospawn... Running: fonts-config-20150424-6.3-reconfigure-cjk-fonts (fonts-config, /var/adm/update-scripts) Running: fonts-config-20150424-6.3-reconfigure-cjk-fonts (fonts-config, /var/adm/update-scripts) ...........................[done] Running: fonts-config-20150424-6.3-reconfigure-fonts (fonts-config, /var/adm/update-scripts) Running: fonts-config-20150424-6.3-reconfigure-fonts (fonts-config, /var/adm/update-scripts) ...............................[done] linux-backup:~ # Gosh. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 00:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 22:58, Nick LeRoy wrote:
How about this:
...
Maybe edit that to a single line and feed to zypper. Or pipe. No, pipe doesn't work. Then edit the list, it is just once.
Try first with --dry-run.
Finally:
linux-backup:~ # zypper install --force SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch exo-branding-openSUSE-4.12.0-174.4.noarch fontconfig-2.11.1-4.3.x86_64 fonts-config-
...
Gosh.
Now verify again: linux-backup:~ # rpm -Va | tee rpm-verify-Va-3-after S.5....T. c /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-rendering-options.conf S.5....T. c /etc/fonts/conf.d/58-family-prefer-local.conf S.5...... c /etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-volumed-pulse.desktop .......T. c /etc/YaST2/control.xml .......T. c /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-lo S.5....T. c /etc/zypp/zypp.conf .......T. c /etc/login.defs ....L.... /usr/share/YaST2/theme/current/icons ....L.... /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/javaplugin.so S.5...... c /etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf S.5...... c /etc/pulse/daemon.conf S.5...... c /etc/pulse/daemon.conf.d/disable_flat_volumes.conf S.5...... c /etc/pulse/default.pa S.5...... c /etc/pulse/system.pa S.5...... c /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2.d/services/pulseaudio-server ....L.... d /usr/share/man/man1/ftp.1.gz ....L.... c /etc/pam.d/common-account ....L.... c /etc/pam.d/common-auth ....L.... c /etc/pam.d/common-password ....L.... c /etc/pam.d/common-session .......T. c /etc/wicked/common.xml S.5...... c /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc S.5....T. c /etc/default/grub .....U... /var/lib/mlocate SM5....T. c /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf S.5....T. c /etc/ntp.conf .....U... /var/cache/cups .......T. c /etc/iscsi/ifaces/iface.example .M.....T. c /etc/iscsi/iscsid.conf .......T. /usr/lib64/gconv/gconv-modules.cache S.5....T. c /etc/postfix/main.cf S.5....T. c /etc/postfix/master.cf missing /usr/lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount S.5....T. c /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2 linux-backup:~ # That's the entire list now. Phew! This is much different, they are config files, which can be different in size for good reasons. But I will have to look at them manually or something. If they are zero bytes they are very suspect. And some services to restart (zypper ps says so). Can't reboot, I'm using this system to do a backup of my normal system. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 00:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
Wait, not so fast... I should reinstall packages with files of different size on verification, not all of them.
Ok, I took the "rpm -qaV" list, and edited it manually leaving all the files that were missing or qrong size. Then wrote a small script:
#!/bin/bash
while read FILES ; do rpm -qf $FILES done < /root/rpm-verify-zero
And run it:
linux-backup:~ # encontrar_rpms | sort | uniq > rpm-verify-uniq error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/ac-adapter.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-caution-charging.png: No such file or directory error: file /root/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/battery-caution.png: No such file or directory
Now, why do those have path "/root" in front? File "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/status/ac-adapter.png" does exist now, but I have run zypper to install many things. Ok, time to rest and eat. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [02-01-18 17:23]:
On 2018-02-01 22:58, Nick LeRoy wrote:
How about this:
# for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done
-Nick
Thanks, I'm running that one now, seems to work. The list is long, though:
linux-backup:~ # for name in $(rpm -qa) ; do if ! rpm --verify --quiet "${name}" ; then echo "${name}"; fi ; done | tee rpm-verify-for libtheora0-1.1.1-31.3.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-3.3.x86_64 libsigc-2_0-0-2.8.0-4.3.x86_64 libcaca0-0.99.beta19-6.7.x86_64 xfconf-4.12.1-42.2.x86_64 libupnp6-1.6.21-5.1.x86_64 libaa1-1.4.0-509.3.x86_64 libSDL_image-1_2-0-1.2.12-15.3.x86_64 libqt4-x11-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libvcdinfo0-0.7.24cvs-16.3.x86_64 libiso9660-10-0.93-7.3.x86_64 mpg123-pulse-1.25.7-10.1.x86_64 openSUSE-release-42.3-1.202.x86_64 SuSEfirewall2-3.6.312.333-7.1.noarch libsoxr0-0.1.2-4.3.x86_64 wicked-service-0.6.40-9.1.x86_64 libatkmm-1_6-1-2.24.2-3.4.x86_64 postfix-3.2.0-1.4.x86_64 grub2-2.02-4.1.x86_64 libavc1394-0-0.5.4-18.3.x86_64 shadow-4.2.1-10.1.x86_64 gimp-plugin-aa-2.8.18-6.3.x86_64 yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.2.3-1.1.noarch libdvbpsi10-1.3.0-6.3.x86_64 libmad0-0.15.1b-2.1.x86_64 libgtop-2_0-10-2.34.1-3.1.x86_64 libqt4-sql-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 java-1_8_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.2-4.1.x86_64 ...
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
zypper -v in --force <package.list> -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 01:25, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [02-01-18 17:23]:
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
zypper -v in --force <package.list>
That's what I did, except for the -v. You can see that in a post I sent later. The problem was that "package.list" can not be a file, but an actual list of packages in the command line; so I had to edit the package list from one line per package to a single line, editing it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Carlos,
On Feb 1, 2018, at 20:04:48, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2018-02-02 01:25, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [02-01-18 17:23]:
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
zypper -v in --force <package.list>
That's what I did, except for the -v. You can see that in a post I sent later.
The problem was that "package.list" can not be a file, but an actual list of packages in the command line; so I had to edit the package list from one line per package to a single line, editing it.
xargs is your fried: cat package.list | xargs rpm -v in --force Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Feb 1, 2018, at 20:11:15, Tom Kacvinsky <tom.kacvinsky@suse.com> wrote:
Hi Carlos,
On Feb 1, 2018, at 20:04:48, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2018-02-02 01:25, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [02-01-18 17:23]:
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
zypper -v in --force <package.list>
That's what I did, except for the -v. You can see that in a post I sent later.
The problem was that "package.list" can not be a file, but an actual list of packages in the command line; so I had to edit the package list from one line per package to a single line, editing it.
xargs is your fried:
friend. sheesh. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 02:11, Tom Kacvinsky wrote:
On Feb 1, 2018, at 20:11:15, Tom Kacvinsky <> wrote:
Hi Carlos,
On Feb 1, 2018, at 20:04:48, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2018-02-02 01:25, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [02-01-18 17:23]:
and continues...
I will have to run zypper something to force install them all again :-(
(reading man)
zypper -v in --force <package.list>
That's what I did, except for the -v. You can see that in a post I sent later.
The problem was that "package.list" can not be a file, but an actual list of packages in the command line; so I had to edit the package list from one line per package to a single line, editing it.
xargs is your fried:
friend. sheesh.
I figured that typo out :-) Yes, I thought that some thing like xargs could do it, but finding that out was going to be slower than editing the file and pasting the resulting long line ;-) The system seems to be running quite fine now :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 10:44:48PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
This machine crashed while YaST was updating it and installing things. Hard crash, the filesystem became R/O (the disk is removable, it is in a caddy). Bad filesystem corruption, automatic fsck on boot failed, had to fsck from another disk.
So some files are broken, and I find them now and then. Thunar had broken libraries, for instance. Now there is another when I run VLC:
cer@linux-backup:/tmp/mozilla_cer0> vlc 27566544_559085681122620_5011855560279064576_n.mp4 vlc: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib64/libvlc.so.5: file too short
So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system?
I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms.
In the case of VLC I'm going to force update all installed packman packages. Brute force attack.
What about rpm -Va Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-01 23:00, Marcus Meissner wrote:
So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system?
I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms.
In the case of VLC I'm going to force update all installed packman packages. Brute force attack.
What about
rpm -Va
No, lists files: linux-backup:~ # nice rpm -Va | tee rpm-verify-Va-2 S.5...... /usr/lib64/libtheora.so.0.3.10 S.5...... /usr/lib64/libwebrtc_audio_processing.so.1.0.0 S.5...... d /usr/share/doc/packages/libwebrtc_audio_processing1/AUTHORS S.5...... d /usr/share/doc/packages/libwebrtc_audio_processing1/COPYING S.5...... d /usr/share/doc/packages/libwebrtc_audio_processing1/NEWS S.5...... d /usr/share/doc/packages/libwebrtc_audio_processing1/README.md S.5...... d /usr/share/doc/packages/libwebrtc_audio_processing1/UPDATING.md S.5...... /usr/lib64/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0 S.5...... d /usr/share/doc/packages/libsigc-2_0-0/AUTHORS -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Thu, 01 Feb 2018, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:00, Marcus Meissner wrote:
What about
rpm -Va
No, lists files:
$ rpm -qa | while read p ; do \ rpm --quiet -V "$p" || echo "$p"; \ done | tee /tmp/brocken_pkgs # zypper in -f $(</tmp/broken_pkgs) HTH, -dnh -- printk(KERN_EMERG "This is not a software problem!\n"); linux-2.6.19/arch/x86_64/kernel/mce.c -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 23:18, David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:00, Marcus Meissner wrote:
What about
rpm -Va
No, lists files:
$ rpm -qa | while read p ; do \ rpm --quiet -V "$p" || echo "$p"; \ done | tee /tmp/brocken_pkgs
# zypper in -f $(</tmp/broken_pkgs)
Interesting - next time :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2018 11:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-02 23:18, David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-01 23:00, Marcus Meissner wrote:
What about
rpm -Va
No, lists files:
$ rpm -qa | while read p ; do \ rpm --quiet -V "$p" || echo "$p"; \ done | tee /tmp/brocken_pkgs
# zypper in -f $(</tmp/broken_pkgs)
Interesting - next time :-)
Running this now, watch out for the typo. "brocken should be broken" -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-01 22:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
This machine crashed while YaST was updating it and installing things. Hard crash, the filesystem became R/O (the disk is removable, it is in a caddy). Bad filesystem corruption, automatic fsck on boot failed, had to fsck from another disk.
So some files are broken, and I find them now and then. Thunar had broken libraries, for instance. Now there is another when I run VLC:
cer@linux-backup:/tmp/mozilla_cer0> vlc 27566544_559085681122620_5011855560279064576_n.mp4 vlc: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib64/libvlc.so.5: file too short
So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system?
I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms.
Example: S.5...... /usr/bin/padsp S.5...... /usr/bin/pasuspender S.5...... /usr/bin/pax11publish S.5...... /usr/lib64/pulseaudio/libpulsedsp.so S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/pacat.1.gz S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/pacmd.1.gz S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/pactl.1.gz S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/padsp.1.gz S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/pasuspender.1.gz S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/pax11publish.1.gz missing /usr/lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount S.5...... /usr/lib64/libzip.so.2.1.0 S.5...... /usr/lib64/libid3tag.so.0.3.0 S.5...... /usr/lib64/libraw1394.so.11.1.0 S.5...... /usr/lib64/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.so S.5...... c /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc S.5...... /usr/bin/rodent-diff S.5...... /usr/share/appdata/Rodent-diff.appdata.xml S.5...... /usr/share/applications/Rodent-diff.desktop S.5...... /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/rodent-diff.svg S.5...... /usr/share/icons/rfm/48x48/apps/rodent-diff.png S.5...... d /usr/share/man/man1/rodent-diff.1.gz ... The S means "different size" of the file. So I look: inux-backup:~ # l /usr/share/icons/rfm/48x48/apps/rodent-diff.png /usr/lib64/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.so /usr/lib64/libzip.so.2.1.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Sep 21 14:21 /usr/lib64/libzip.so.2.1.0* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jun 26 2017 /usr/lib64/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.so* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 12 2017 /usr/share/icons/rfm/48x48/apps/rodent-diff.png linux-backup:~ # rpm -qf /usr/share/icons/rfm/48x48/apps/rodent-diff.png /usr/lib64/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.so /usr/lib64/libzip.so.2.1.0 rodent-diff-5.3.16.0-5.2.x86_64 libqt4-sql-sqlite-4.8.6-16.6.x86_64 libzip2-0.11.1-9.1.x86_64 linux-backup:~ # Many files have 0 bytes and should be installed! :-/ It is astonishing that the system is running. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/01/2018 04:44 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
This machine crashed while YaST was updating it and installing things. Hard crash, the filesystem became R/O (the disk is removable, it is in a caddy). Bad filesystem corruption, automatic fsck on boot failed, had to fsck from another disk.
So some files are broken, and I find them now and then. Thunar had broken libraries, for instance. Now there is another when I run VLC:
cer@linux-backup:/tmp/mozilla_cer0> vlc 27566544_559085681122620_5011855560279064576_n.mp4 vlc: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib64/libvlc.so.5: file too short
So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system?
I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms.
In the case of VLC I'm going to force update all installed packman packages. Brute force attack.
Hi Carlos, Had similar issue this past weekend but in my case one of my ram modules decided to go on vacation while while running zypper dup. After reseating all of the ram modules and rebooting I ended up opening YaST-->Software Manager. I selected the repo view and forced an update of "All in this list". I let it run overnight and after a reboot all seems to be well since. I haven't run a mem test yet but I will if I have problems again with the system seizing. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 23:04, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 02/01/2018 04:44 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
This machine crashed while YaST was updating it and installing things. Hard crash, the filesystem became R/O (the disk is removable, it is in a caddy). Bad filesystem corruption, automatic fsck on boot failed, had to fsck from another disk.
So some files are broken, and I find them now and then. Thunar had broken libraries, for instance. Now there is another when I run VLC:
cer@linux-backup:/tmp/mozilla_cer0> vlc 27566544_559085681122620_5011855560279064576_n.mp4 vlc: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib64/libvlc.so.5: file too short
So, is there a way to check all rpms in the system?
I tried "rpm -qa V", but it lists all files, not rpms.
In the case of VLC I'm going to force update all installed packman packages. Brute force attack.
Hi Carlos, Had similar issue this past weekend but in my case one of my ram modules decided to go on vacation while while running zypper dup. After reseating all of the ram modules and rebooting I ended up opening YaST-->Software Manager. I selected the repo view and forced an update of "All in this list". I let it run overnight and after a reboot all seems to be well since. I haven't run a mem test yet but I will if I have problems again with the system seizing.
I did that on the packman repo, for testing the procedure. Did not on the XFCE repo, the other one that was selected when the system crashed. But my "verify" found other packages that were not apparently from either one. From instance, SuSEfirewall2 or grub2 were damaged. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
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