roaming X windows?
Does anyone know of software other than xmove that will enable a user to move his/her X-session from one terminal to another? (the apps would be running centrally, with thin client X-terminals). Has anyone worked with xmove? /Per Jessen, Zürich
Per Jessen wrote:
Does anyone know of software other than xmove that will enable a user to move his/her X-session from one terminal to another? (the apps would be running centrally, with thin client X-terminals). Has anyone worked with xmove?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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On Monday 22 August 2005 20:12, Per Jessen wrote:
Does anyone know of software other than xmove that will enable a user to move his/her X-session from one terminal to another? (the apps would be running centrally, with thin client X-terminals). Has anyone worked with xmove?
I haven't seen xmove before, or any single program that does what you want. I have however seen the functionality embedded in the gtk-demo suite of programs. If you run gtk-demo you'll find a demo called "Change Display", that allows you to click on a window and move it to another X server (prtovided it's listening to connections, of course). I've been meaning to rip it out and make it a standalone utility for some time now but never quite gotten around to it :/
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 22 August 2005 20:12, Per Jessen wrote:
Does anyone know of software other than xmove that will enable a user to move his/her X-session from one terminal to another? (the apps would be running centrally, with thin client X-terminals). Has anyone worked with xmove?
I haven't seen xmove before, or any single program that does what you want. I have however seen the functionality embedded in the gtk-demo suite of programs. If you run gtk-demo you'll find a demo called "Change Display", that allows you to click on a window and move it to another X server (prtovided it's listening to connections, of course).
OK, that sounds interesting - although I'm after moving a whole X-sesion, i.e. all windows etc. I know "roaming" works - I've seen it at Sun here in Zurich a couple of years ago. All Sun staff carried a personal chipcard, which they feed into whichever X-terminal is nearest, and voila! their X-session is transferred from wherever they were logged on previously. /Per Jessen, Zürich
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 14:45, Per Jessen wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 22 August 2005 20:12, Per Jessen wrote:
Does anyone know of software other than xmove that will enable a user to move his/her X-session from one terminal to another? (the apps would be running centrally, with thin client X-terminals). Has anyone worked with xmove?
I haven't seen xmove before, or any single program that does what you want. I have however seen the functionality embedded in the gtk-demo suite of programs. If you run gtk-demo you'll find a demo called "Change Display", that allows you to click on a window and move it to another X server (prtovided it's listening to connections, of course).
OK, that sounds interesting - although I'm after moving a whole X-sesion, i.e. all windows etc.
I know "roaming" works - I've seen it at Sun here in Zurich a couple of years ago. All Sun staff carried a personal chipcard, which they feed into whichever X-terminal is nearest, and voila! their X-session is transferred from wherever they were logged on previously.
Ahhh the Sun-Ray thin clients... I'm also impressed with these but... They are not real X-Windows clients, instead they are something closer to vnc thin-clients, as they only paint display buffers sent to them via a SUN proprietary protocol. The machines sun-rays cost about 100$ ea. but the client license for the sun proprietary server is another 100$ ea, even when running on linux (which I think they offer), plus cost of server, plus... I agree, something working similar to this would be a real great advantage, as most people really like the idea of carrying there entire system in a card from terminal to terminal... I got a doctor that would buy it in the same instant I offered it to him! But alas this example is not X-Windows.... Jerry
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Jerry Westrick wrote:
Ahhh the Sun-Ray thin clients... I'm also impressed with these but...
They are not real X-Windows clients, instead they are something closer to vnc thin-clients, as they only paint display buffers sent to them via a SUN proprietary protocol. The machines sun-rays cost about 100$ ea. but the client license for the sun proprietary server is another 100$ ea, even when running on linux (which I think they offer), plus cost of server, plus...
Looks like the newer Sunrays are up to $1k a piece now. http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=121968 Looks pretty slick too though. Pricewise, they're $359 without monitor, which isn't too bad, given that the server software is free - AFAICT. http://www.sun.com/download/products.xml?id=41c758f9 /Per Jessen, Zürich
You could try freenx which is a free version of the nomachine.com X server.
It is compatible with nomachine's client viewers ( which are free ). I
know it allows sessions to be saved and resumed by the same client. I
am not sure how well it works going from one client to another.
It is faster than VNC because it actually uses a compressed version of
X and instead of sending an entire screen bitmap it updates only the
"widgets" that need to be redrawn.
-Scott
On 8/23/05, Per Jessen
Jerry Westrick wrote:
Ahhh the Sun-Ray thin clients... I'm also impressed with these but...
They are not real X-Windows clients, instead they are something closer to vnc thin-clients, as they only paint display buffers sent to them via a SUN proprietary protocol. The machines sun-rays cost about 100$ ea. but the client license for the sun proprietary server is another 100$ ea, even when running on linux (which I think they offer), plus cost of server, plus...
Looks like the newer Sunrays are up to $1k a piece now. http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=121968
Looks pretty slick too though.
Pricewise, they're $359 without monitor, which isn't too bad, given that the server software is free - AFAICT. http://www.sun.com/download/products.xml?id=41c758f9
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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Call me lazy... Go ahead, but I saw want something like xmove (which I will have to give a try to). My office is in the basement, and I am there sometimes, at other times I am at my wife's desk in the upstairs, and other times in the living room on my laptop. I want to be able to "pass around" my windows from machine to machine. I could use freenx, but that means when I am actually at the desktop I have to open up a loopback type connection to connect to what I have there. I'd rather just issue a command and move the running application from a remote display to the local one. Vnc is nice, but kinda slow and no sound... Michael Scott Stickeler wrote:
You could try freenx which is a free version of the nomachine.com X server.
It is compatible with nomachine's client viewers ( which are free ). I know it allows sessions to be saved and resumed by the same client. I am not sure how well it works going from one client to another.
It is faster than VNC because it actually uses a compressed version of X and instead of sending an entire screen bitmap it updates only the "widgets" that need to be redrawn.
-Scott
On 8/23/05, Per Jessen
wrote: Jerry Westrick wrote:
Ahhh the Sun-Ray thin clients... I'm also impressed with these but...
They are not real X-Windows clients, instead they are something closer to vnc thin-clients, as they only paint display buffers sent to them via a SUN proprietary protocol. The machines sun-rays cost about 100$ ea. but the client license for the sun proprietary server is another 100$ ea, even when running on linux (which I think they offer), plus cost of server, plus...
Looks like the newer Sunrays are up to $1k a piece now. http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=121968
Looks pretty slick too though.
Pricewise, they're $359 without monitor, which isn't too bad, given that the server software is free - AFAICT. http://www.sun.com/download/products.xml?id=41c758f9
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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On Tuesday 23 August 2005 12:54, Per Jessen wrote:
Jerry Westrick wrote:
Ahhh the Sun-Ray thin clients... I'm also impressed with these but...
They are not real X-Windows clients, instead they are something closer to vnc thin-clients, as they only paint display buffers sent to them via a SUN proprietary protocol. The machines sun-rays cost about 100$ ea. but the client license for the sun proprietary server is another 100$ ea, even when running on linux (which I think they offer), plus cost of server, plus...
Looks like the newer Sunrays are up to $1k a piece now. http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdViewProduct_C P&catid=121968
Looks pretty slick too though.
Pricewise, they're $359 without monitor, which isn't too bad, given that the server software is free - AFAICT. http://www.sun.com/download/products.xml?id=41c758f9
The ones that are not built into the LCD monitors are a better deal. (Cheaper, pick your own monitor, etc.) We're considering SunRays at work. It appears to work similar to NX by packing multiple pixel rendering requests and eliminating X round trips. The downside is that it is a proprietary protocol and it looks like Sun wants to be the only source for the razor and the razorblades. On the good side, it is fairly inexpensive, there is a server that runs on Linux (though, the last time I checked it wasn't as current as the solaris version), and the SunRay system supports I/O to memory cards and USB devices connected to the SunRay.
Jerry Westrick wrote:
Ahhh the Sun-Ray thin clients... I'm also impressed with these but...
They are not real X-Windows clients, instead they are something closer to vnc thin-clients, as they only paint display buffers sent to them via a SUN proprietary protocol. The machines sun-rays cost about 100$ ea. but the client license for the sun proprietary server is another 100$ ea, even when running on linux (which I think they offer), plus cost of server, plus...
I agree, something working similar to this would be a real great advantage, as most people really like the idea of carrying there entire system in a card from terminal to terminal... I got a doctor that would buy it in the same instant I offered it to him!
Hm. This would be a great way to recycle some old hw, like those Fujitsu Stylistic 1200 tablet PCs that keep turning up on EBay for under $100 US (yes, I got one, haven't quite figured out what to do with it). True, the 1200 is B&W rather than color, but...
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