[opensuse] 13.1 bootable USB stick
Hello, I am trying to create a bootable USB thumb drive. I downloaded the liveKDE64bit iso and followed the procedure outlined in the SDB. I did: Created 2 primary partitions on the drive, sdb1 - 10 Gb and sdb2 - 4 Gb, both ext4. as root ran dd if=/mnt/iso/openSUSE-13.1-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M The drive boots into a grub prompt only, but no menu appears. I reformatted sdb1 and tried again using virtually the sme command except using bs=1M and the process was finished ran "sync". This was suggested on another web page for suse 13.1. The result is the same, just a grub boot prompt. I could, at the prompt, set the root device, the kernel and the initrd and boot, but it is cumbersome to do it every time. Any pointers on how to get the normal boot menu (that is on the dvd) would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gustav -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/09/2014 01:55, Gustav Degreef a écrit :
Hello,
I am trying to create a bootable USB thumb drive. I downloaded the liveKDE64bit iso and followed the procedure outlined in the SDB. I did:
Created 2 primary partitions on the drive, sdb1 - 10 Gb and sdb2 - 4 Gb, both ext4.
what? a link to the S DB you used? never do so. dd to the raw drive (no "1" at the end) or use imagewriter :-)
as root ran dd if=/mnt/iso/openSUSE-13.1-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M
remove ther "1 ^^ jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
2014-09-18 10:24 GMT+03:00 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
Le 19/09/2014 01:55, Gustav Degreef a écrit :
Hello,
I am trying to create a bootable USB thumb drive. I downloaded the liveKDE64bit iso and followed the procedure outlined in the SDB. I did:
Created 2 primary partitions on the drive, sdb1 - 10 Gb and sdb2 - 4 Gb, both ext4.
what? a link to the S DB you used?
never do so.
dd to the raw drive (no "1" at the end) or use imagewriter :-)
as root ran dd if=/mnt/iso/openSUSE-13.1-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M
remove ther "1 ^^
The easiest way is to use imagewriter, install it, select your device,drag and drop it, press write. Satisfaction guarenteed have fun Kostas
jdd
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-09-19 01:55, Gustav Degreef wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to create a bootable USB thumb drive. I downloaded the liveKDE64bit iso and followed the procedure outlined in the SDB. I did:
Created 2 primary partitions on the drive, sdb1 - 10 Gb and sdb2 - 4 Gb, both ext4.
as root ran dd if=/mnt/iso/openSUSE-13.1-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M
Where on the SDB tells you to do that? :-OO Please post a link. It will not work. The official instructions are here: https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick And for the CLI, it is section 2. You DO NOT create any partition on the USB stick. You simply run: dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M Where 'X' in your case is 'b', never 'b1'. And that's all. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQa0YcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X91QCfS9ccQKVuAH9JXJgnl8C9b7nj DC8An32RbzBSbL2Zk6sJ0eXcTdiUk3Mt =xu2n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 14:35 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The official instructions are here:
https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick
And for the CLI, it is section 2. You DO NOT create any partition on the USB stick. You simply run:
dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
Where 'X' in your case is 'b', never 'b1'.
And that's all.
Or, if you really want to be in control, follow the KIWI-cookbook examples. (You do need a working suse-machine to do the cooking) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/18/2014 06:33 PM, Hans Witvliet wrote:
On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 14:35 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The official instructions are here:
https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick
And for the CLI, it is section 2. You DO NOT create any partition on the USB stick. You simply run:
dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
Where 'X' in your case is 'b', never 'b1'.
And that's all.
Or, if you really want to be in control, follow the KIWI-cookbook examples. (You do need a working suse-machine to do the cooking) Thanks everybody. Now it works. I followed Carlos' advice. I removed the 2nd partition and used the command Carlos suggested.
I had originally gone to the official link above noted - partitioning the stick and copying the image to Sdb1 was my idea. I thought to have sdb2 later become /home after I used the kiwi_hybridpersistent=yes. Thanks for the help. I'll have to check out the kiwi site. Gustav -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/18/2014 08:35 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-09-19 01:55, Gustav Degreef wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to create a bootable USB thumb drive. I downloaded the liveKDE64bit iso and followed the procedure outlined in the SDB. I did:
Created 2 primary partitions on the drive, sdb1 - 10 Gb and sdb2 - 4 Gb, both ext4.
as root ran dd if=/mnt/iso/openSUSE-13.1-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M
Where on the SDB tells you to do that? :-OO Please post a link.
It will not work.
The official instructions are here:
https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick
And for the CLI, it is section 2. You DO NOT create any partition on the USB stick. You simply run:
dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
Where 'X' in your case is 'b', never 'b1'.
And that's all.
And I do that, with a 2G stick, and all is well up to a point. This is KDE Live: openSUSE-13.2-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso I get the menu. This time of year it has snow and penguins. But if I select the "live" option or the media check option as soon as the kernel executes it panics. Regular 13.1 off the hard disk and off a 13.2 install USB the kernel works. When I wake up tomorrow after breakfast and shower I'll try burning the Live-KDE onto a CD and try that. unless anyone has any suggestions? -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2014 03:25 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 28/12/2014 07:21, Anton Aylward a écrit :
unless anyone has any suggestions?
try imagewriter? an othe usb device?
Tried 3 USBs. What is your reason for imagewriter rather than dd ? What is *WRONG* with the dd method? -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 28/12/2014 13:49, Anton Aylward a écrit :
On 12/28/2014 03:25 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 28/12/2014 07:21, Anton Aylward a écrit :
unless anyone has any suggestions?
try imagewriter? an othe usb device?
Tried 3 USBs.
and three with the same error? I guess md5sum is good. If so memory error? disk error? tryed with other image (not kde live)
What is your reason for imagewriter rather than dd ? What is *WRONG* with the dd method?
nothing really if not any typo or unexpected error. Changing from one method to an other can some time show problems all this is to exclude problems jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2014 07:54 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 28/12/2014 13:49, Anton Aylward a écrit :
On 12/28/2014 03:25 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 28/12/2014 07:21, Anton Aylward a écrit :
unless anyone has any suggestions?
try imagewriter? an othe usb device?
Tried 3 USBs.
and three with the same error? I guess md5sum is good. If so memory error? disk error?
Yes. I've also asked a colleague to try it with his system, a laptop and he gets what, from his description, seems to be the same problem. He's a fedora user and would otherwise blame suse -- just because -- (Ha! Rivalry!) but then he tried it with a Fedora live and got what, over the phone, sounds like the same problem, a kernel crash.
tryed with other image (not kde live)
I've tried the install to the same USB sticks and they seem to work, I just don't let the install proceed.
What is your reason for imagewriter rather than dd ? What is *WRONG* with the dd method?
nothing really if not any typo or unexpected error. Changing from one method to an other can some time show problems
all this is to exclude problems
I'm trying imagewriter, but its s....l...o....w About 5-6 times as slow as dd. Its like dd ... bs=16b -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-12-28 07:21, Anton Aylward wrote:
And I do that, with a 2G stick, and all is well up to a point. This is KDE Live: openSUSE-13.2-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso
I get the menu. This time of year it has snow and penguins. But if I select the "live" option or the media check option as soon as the kernel executes it panics.
The self check does not work on a usb stick. However, it should not crash. What you have to check is the checksum of the original downloaded image; the instructions are also on the wiki.
Regular 13.1 off the hard disk and off a 13.2 install USB the kernel works. When I wake up tomorrow after breakfast and shower I'll try burning the Live-KDE onto a CD and try that.
The lives had problems; they even considered not producing them. Try the full 4-7GB dvd image on a stick. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 12/28/2014 09:47 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-12-28 07:21, Anton Aylward wrote:
And I do that, with a 2G stick, and all is well up to a point. This is KDE Live: openSUSE-13.2-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso
I get the menu. This time of year it has snow and penguins. But if I select the "live" option or the media check option as soon as the kernel executes it panics.
The self check does not work on a usb stick. However, it should not crash.
Well it does.
What you have to check is the checksum of the original downloaded image; the instructions are also on the wiki.
I did that. Its checks out OK.
Regular 13.1 off the hard disk and off a 13.2 install USB the kernel works. When I wake up tomorrow after breakfast and shower I'll try burning the Live-KDE onto a CD and try that.
The lives had problems; they even considered not producing them. Try the full 4-7GB dvd image on a stick.
Yes, as I said in another email here, I tried that. Again the menu works, and the 'rescue' mode works and the 'install' starts, so that kernel mode is OK. But its the Live operation I want to try out. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2014 10:08 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
But its the Live operation I want to try out.
Eventually I got a combination that works. Sometimes. Most of the time. This Dell machine seems very finikity. I even tried a brand new out of the packet USB3 device, and yes that only works on USB3 ports and its still slow! I'd rather stick with the USB2 devices for 'portability'. One that works doesn't always work. By comparison, formatted fat there seems to be no problem, so its not a purely marginal device or marginal usb port. It does seem to be something to do with having "live" on the stick. "Finikity"? Well I always get the boot menu. As I've said, the media check does nothing. Booting into "live" takes a long time and then either I get the kernel panic or I get a screen full of green wavy lines and eventually -- maybe 2-3 minutes later, certainly long enough to walk down the corridor to the coffee nook and get a refill and come back and sit down and watch some more -- the KDE start icons appear, slowly. Once its running, its FAST and responsive but wants a huge zypper update! I can get cheap SD cards. I'm thinking of giving up on USB sticks since the cards can fit my camera and phone[1]. Perhaps I should look at live on a FAT file system and SD cards ... [1] I recall with the first Star Wars movie when R2D2 plugged into the network on the death star, thinking that universal compatibility of hardware interfaces was a joke, but ... Perhaps... -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-12-30 14:33, Anton Aylward wrote:
"Finikity"? Well I always get the boot menu. As I've said, the media check does nothing. Booting into "live" takes a long time and then either I get the kernel panic or I get a screen full of green wavy lines and eventually -- maybe 2-3 minutes later, certainly long enough to walk down the corridor to the coffee nook and get a refill and come back and sit down and watch some more -- the KDE start icons appear, slowly. Once its running, its FAST and responsive but wants a huge zypper update!
Yes, the lives are slow. I don't remember if that slow, I'd have to try locally. Don't try to run the update: that's a bug, IMO, having the update thing enabled in the live. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 12/30/2014 08:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-12-30 14:33, Anton Aylward wrote:
"Finikity"? Well I always get the boot menu. As I've said, the media check does nothing. Booting into "live" takes a long time and then either I get the kernel panic or I get a screen full of green wavy lines and eventually -- maybe 2-3 minutes later, certainly long enough to walk down the corridor to the coffee nook and get a refill and come back and sit down and watch some more -- the KDE start icons appear, slowly. Once its running, its FAST and responsive but wants a huge zypper update!
Yes, the lives are slow. I don't remember if that slow, I'd have to try locally. Don't try to run the update: that's a bug, IMO, having the update thing enabled in the live.
Yes, but WHY? What makes suse so strange about this? The basic boot works OK. The kernel for the install DVD comes up fast enough, certainly faster. Recent generations of the KDE4 initializations have been very fast. Yes, when up an running there's the RAMDISK and the overlay file system. That accounts for the speed when things are running. But even the delay of copying to RAMDISK shouldn't be as slow as it all seems. This is not a uefi system. But WHY? I'm going to burn a CD of the Live-KDE and see how that works. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/12/2014 16:31, Anton Aylward a écrit :
But WHY?
I guess this is a device cache problem. when the cache is effective, it's fast, but when there is too much data it's slowwww I tried to install openSUSE on a 32Gb sd card and even buy an usb3 reader for that and failed to have a usable result. notice that I had an install system crash these hours due to hardware problem on a hard disk, the install blocke at "intializing other drivers" (or something similar) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/30/2014 10:37 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 30/12/2014 16:31, Anton Aylward a écrit :
But WHY?
I guess this is a device cache problem. when the cache is effective, it's fast, but when there is too much data it's slowwww
I tried to install openSUSE on a 32Gb sd card and even buy an usb3 reader for that and failed to have a usable result.
notice that I had an install system crash these hours due to hardware problem on a hard disk, the install blocke at "intializing other drivers" (or something similar)
I think there are more than one set of problems here. The first is getting it to work at all. my friend with a couple of laptops and a variety of usb sticks, 2 and 3, can't get either the uses or the fedora live to work. Always that kernel panic. I've got a sometimes works, and a enough of the time to be usable on my Dell usb2 stick. I'm going to try it other machines. Part of the issue is visibility. Booting from y hard drive I can do the edit of the boot command line to display the kernel boot/initialization messages. I haven't figured out that with "live", I can only see how to add items and don't know what to "add". -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward
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Carlos E. R.
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Carlos E. R.
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Gustav Degreef
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Hans Witvliet
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jdd
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Kostas Koudaras