New Motherboard, any thoughts
Hello, I have MythTV 0.19 running OpenSuSE 10.1, which is sitting on an AMD Athlon XP 1800 and an old Biostar motherboard with the VIA chipset and a HopHog PVR 500MCE. I have been bitten by the via chipset problem of have the system reboot spontaneously for sometime. I have under clocked this machine to the bare minimum and still random reboots ranging from 5 to 30 minutes of live tv, and forget live tv and record from the second tuner. So, I am going to buy a new mother board and I have a couple of models in mind, I was hoping that someone could give me some thoughts on them. First choice << Gigabyte K8U ULi Socket 754 ATX Motherboard Imagine what you'll be able to do when you you've got a system running on the intimidating AMD Athlon 64 processor, DDR400 Memory, SATA hard drive, powerful AGP8X video, sensational Realtek audio sound, high speed USB 2.0 support and lots more? Games glittering with immersive graphics. You bet! Professional applications for work – not a problem. Just having fun with the computer. - Chipset: ULi M1689 - Front Side Bus: 1600MHz - Processor Interface: Socket 754
Second choice << MSI RX480 Neo2-F ATI Socket 939 ATX Motherboard MSI's remarkable RX480 Neo2-F. We just sealed a nice deal for this phenomenal Socket 939 motherboard, and we're passing on the savings. This is one high-flying motherboard, custom-crafted for AMD's amazing 64-bit Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core, Athlon 64FX and Athlon 64 processors with HyperTransport technology. - Chipset: ATI Radeon Xpress200P/SB450 - Front Side Bus: 1000MHz - Processor Interface: Socket 939
Third choice << Biostar GeForce 6100-M7 NVIDIA Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard Be prepared to own a motherboard that exceeds the power of gravity. Biostar's new Biostar GeForce 6100-M7 NVIDIA Socket 754 platform will send your PC into a high-performance orbit that will hold you in thrall for years to come - Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 6100/Nforce 410 - Front Side Bus: 800MHz - Processor Interface: Socket 754
I chose this order due to the number of expansion slots, I do not like just one or two expansion slots. I would any appreciate any thoughts or suggestions! John -- Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org
* John Pierce <john.j35@gmail.com> [09-08-06 12:43]:
So, I am going to buy a new mother board and I have a couple of models in mind, I was hoping that someone could give me some thoughts on them.
First choice << Gigabyte K8U ULi Socket 754 ATX Motherboard
I really like my Gigabyte K8N Ultra-SLI Socket 939 ATX nForce4 SLI AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
On Friday 08 September 2006 12:41, John Pierce wrote:
Hello, I have MythTV 0.19 running OpenSuSE 10.1, which is sitting on an AMD Athlon XP 1800 and an old Biostar motherboard with the VIA chipset and a HopHog PVR 500MCE. I have been bitten by the via chipset problem of have the system reboot spontaneously for sometime. I have under clocked this machine to the bare minimum and still random reboots ranging from 5 to 30 minutes of live tv, and forget live tv and record from the second tuner.
So, I am going to buy a new mother board and I have a couple of models in mind, I was hoping that someone could give me some thoughts on them. [...] Second choice << MSI RX480 Neo2-F ATI Socket 939 ATX Motherboard MSI's remarkable RX480 Neo2-F. We just sealed a nice deal for this phenomenal Socket 939 motherboard, and we're passing on the savings. This is one high-flying motherboard, custom-crafted for AMD's amazing 64-bit Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core, Athlon 64FX and Athlon 64 processors with HyperTransport technology.
- Chipset: ATI Radeon Xpress200P/SB450 - Front Side Bus: 1000MHz - Processor Interface: Socket 939 [...] I would any appreciate any thoughts or suggestions!
John -- Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org
Since the other two boards were 754 socket boards, I would eliminate them right away. You're restricted to the lower end 64 chips for those with no hope of updating, besides buying another motherboard. With that said, the MSI motherboards have always been top performers and the ATI chipset has gotten very good reviews. I must say, I'm anxious to see how well it sets up myself for this chipset has been a consideration for me. You also have the capabilities of using the X2 dual core AMD in it. Even if you decide now to go with a cheaper 64 bit 939 pin cpu, you will be able to update later to a dual core with that being your only expense. Good luck with your choice and keep us/me posted if you get the ATI chipset model. ;-) regards, Lee -- -- KMail v1.9.4 -- KDE v3.5 -- SuSE Linux v10.1 -- Registered Linux User #225206 "Gör, eller gör inte. Det finns inget 'försök'"
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 20:18 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
With that said, the MSI motherboards have always been top performers and the ATI chipset has gotten very good reviews. I must say, I'm anxious to see how well it sets up myself .... I have it in my notebook - no issues. All the goodies work, performance is very good, it's stable as a rock.
Hans
On Saturday 09 September 2006 11:32, Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 20:18 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
With that said, the MSI motherboards have always been top performers and the ATI chipset has gotten very good reviews. I must say, I'm anxious to see how well it sets up myself ....
I have it in my notebook - no issues. All the goodies work, performance is very good, it's stable as a rock.
Hans ========
Sweet! I knew the kernel was beginning to get support for it, but I had not really heard anyone mention how well it setup. As I mentioned, the reviews have been good and several of the motherboard makers are starting to use it, so my interest was growing. Thanks for the report. Lee
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:41 -0500, John Pierce wrote:
Hello, I have MythTV 0.19 running OpenSuSE 10.1, which is sitting on an AMD Athlon XP 1800 and an old Biostar motherboard with the VIA chipset and a HopHog PVR 500MCE. I have been bitten by the via chipset problem of have the system reboot spontaneously for sometime.
At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, I have never encountered that problem on a board that wasn't fautly in some way.
I have under clocked this machine to the bare minimum and still random reboots ranging from 5 to 30 minutes of live tv, and forget live tv and record from the second tuner.
Sounds rather like your board/memory/CPU is faulty in some way, your PSU doesn't give enough power, or CPU is overheating.
Gigabyte K8U ULi Socket 754 ATX Motherboard Never heard of ULi chipset. What I can recommend is the GA-K8VM800M - it's a mATX board, socket 754. Yes it's VIA chipset but I can assure you they don't reboot spontaneously. I run a number of web/mail/dns servers based on that board and they all have uptimes of over 100 days, under fairly heavy loads.
Hans
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:29 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:41 -0500, John Pierce wrote:
Hello, I have MythTV 0.19 running OpenSuSE 10.1, which is sitting on an AMD Athlon XP 1800 and an old Biostar motherboard with the VIA chipset and a HopHog PVR 500MCE. I have been bitten by the via chipset problem of have the system reboot spontaneously for sometime.
At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, I have never encountered that problem on a board that wasn't fautly in some way.
I have under clocked this machine to the bare minimum and still random reboots ranging from 5 to 30 minutes of live tv, and forget live tv and record from the second tuner.
Sounds rather like your board/memory/CPU is faulty in some way, your PSU doesn't give enough power, or CPU is overheating.
Gigabyte K8U ULi Socket 754 ATX Motherboard Never heard of ULi chipset. What I can recommend is the GA-K8VM800M - it's a mATX board, socket 754. Yes it's VIA chipset but I can assure you they don't reboot spontaneously. I run a number of web/mail/dns servers based on that board and they all have uptimes of over 100 days, under fairly heavy loads.
Hans
I agree with you on the 939 socket. I presently have an ASUS A8V with Athelon 64 and an MSI microATX with Semperon. The MSI is much faster (two or three to one) than the ASUS> I also have problems with the ASUS board. If I press the eject button on the DVD drive, the computer reboots, even after replacing the DVD drive. When booting up, it always wants to go to the IDE drive instead of the SATA drive, even though I set the bios hardrives to disable the IDE drive. It also does not keep time and I just changed the batter, the second in 6 months. I am going to replace the ASUS board with an MSI,l maybe Gigabyte. I am in Taiwan for the next year, so the boards are pretty cheap over here. With socket 939, I can use my old processor. My suggestion, don't get an ASUS board. Art
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