[opensuse] Text entry trouble
SuSE 11.2, KDE 4.3.5 I did a fresh install of SuSE 11.2 a few weeks ago and have been banging my head against walls since. I am experiencing text entry problems. 1. TAB key acts strange sometimes. - In konsole (2.3.1), sometimes tabbing to complete a command does nothing, other times it works like I am used to (displaying a list of possible completions). When tab completion works, the typed characters are displayed as normal black characters on white background. When it doesn't work, the character colors are reversed. When not working properly, if I type and extra space ' ' character, and then backspace one character, then tab completion works. One really odd thing is that I can run several instances of konsole, and tab completion will work on some and not on others. - In gnumeric (1.9.13), tab sometimes will not go to the next field unless an extra space is typed at the end of the field data. Having to type an extra ' ' space character is a recurring theme here. - In gnucash (2.2.9) tab acts the same as in gnucash. In both cases, this never happened in 11.1. - In firefox (3.5.9) tab "sometimes" acts the same as gnucash and gnumeric (above). Also, getting firefox to list possible URL connections from history sometimes requires hitting the ' ' space key. At other times, firefox will display possible completions, but will not tab select them until a space key is pressed. The same behaviors occur in common drop box screens, such as google's search text entry; again a seemingly random behavior. These problems show in many other app's. 2. Spell check and text entry is strange: - In abiword (2.6.8), thunderbird (3.0.4) and emacs (23.1.1) there are several strange things "SOMETIMES" strings are not echoed from the app, but are instead displayed in a small text box that pops up somewhere on the monitor. The text box appears for each string and goes away after the string is completed. "As you type" spell checking is not performed. This problem is really annoying. "SOMETIMES" the strings are displayed on the app while typing, but spell check is not performed until after the string is completed. SOMETIMES "as you type" spell checking works as in previous versions of the OS. The string is underlined as soon as it doesn't match anything in the dictionary. I've tried to google these problems, but the search strings are so common that there are way too hits to be of use. I'm sure these aren't really random happenings, but I haven't been able to see a pattern yet. Any help? TIA Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-05-03 03:13, Jim Sabatke wrote: [sent later]
SuSE 11.2, KDE 4.3.5
I did a fresh install of SuSE 11.2 a few weeks ago and have been banging my head against walls since. I am experiencing text entry problems.
1. TAB key acts strange sometimes.
I would make sure that the keyboard does work properly, the tab key could be bad. Try another oS, if you have it installed, or a live CD of 11.2 if not. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkveaPUACgkQja8UbcUWM1xlYwD/XUCpQ1g3mJQZJhVZ87tb6IHT 4Nu7Rt0NI2OxWZynon8A/RIBW+GuoMS66IpzNYp8vW0AGk3Ib9FwiO1f/5/rYJzt =6AJU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 03 May 2010 08:11:01 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-05-03 03:13, Jim Sabatke wrote:
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SuSE 11.2, KDE 4.3.5
I did a fresh install of SuSE 11.2 a few weeks ago and have been banging my head against walls since. I am experiencing text entry problems.
1. TAB key acts strange sometimes.
I would make sure that the keyboard does work properly, the tab key could be bad. Try another oS, if you have it installed, or a live CD of 11.2 if not.
Agreed, and you can run 'xev' from a console and press Tab - for each tab press and release you should see KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5a00001, root 0x1a7, subw 0x5a00002, time 861186937, (49,48), root:(352,71), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5a00001, root 0x1a7, subw 0x5a00002, time 861187041, (49,48), root:(352,71), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False Note the 'Tab' on the third line. If it's something else then perhaps your keyboard or locale settings are wrong. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2010 10:12 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
<snip> Agreed, and you can run 'xev' from a console and press Tab - for each tab press and release you should see
KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5a00001, root 0x1a7, subw 0x5a00002, time 861186937, (49,48), root:(352,71), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False
KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5a00001, root 0x1a7, subw 0x5a00002, time 861187041, (49,48), root:(352,71), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False
Note the 'Tab' on the third line. If it's something else then perhaps your keyboard or locale settings are wrong.
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
Again, I believe the keyboard is functioning properly. One other symptom: sometimes I have to press the space key twice after a word to actually insert a space in between words. Since I touch type without looking at the screen, this is incredibly annoying. Here is the xev results: KeyPress event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001, root 0x114, subw 0x0, time 5773248, (258,1002), root:(295,1027), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001, root 0x114, subw 0x0, time 5773331, (258,1002), root:(295,1027), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-05-04 02:10, Jim Sabatke wrote:
On 05/03/2010 10:12 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
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Again, I believe the keyboard is functioning properly. One other symptom: sometimes I have to press the space key twice after a word to actually insert a space in between words. Since I touch type without looking at the screen, this is incredibly annoying.
Do you have accessibility features enabled? - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkvfyb8ACgkQja8UbcUWM1xzewD/aj/rqEd8JSErhmDOaQszwb0B Tfnatv5ZutNYrKcCjXQA/ivnCN36a9QpaLpbtCUjzrTl7JsZblao2F5AI5E9oeSk =sg2o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 May 2010 02:10:41 Jim Sabatke wrote:
Again, I believe the keyboard is functioning properly. One other symptom: sometimes I have to press the space key twice after a word to actually insert a space in between words. Since I touch type without looking at the screen, this is incredibly annoying.
Here is the xev results:
KeyPress event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001, root 0x114, subw 0x0, time 5773248, (258,1002), root:(295,1027), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False
KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001, root 0x114, subw 0x0, time 5773331, (258,1002), root:(295,1027), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False
Looks normal. Just a hunch, but have you checked if any accessibility features like sticky keys are activated? They can make keyboards go 'weird' on you. (System Settings->Accessibility and check all tabs in KDE). Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/04/2010 05:10 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 04 May 2010 02:10:41 Jim Sabatke wrote:
Again, I believe the keyboard is functioning properly. One other symptom: sometimes I have to press the space key twice after a word to actually insert a space in between words. Since I touch type without looking at the screen, this is incredibly annoying.
Here is the xev results:
KeyPress event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001, root 0x114, subw 0x0, time 5773248, (258,1002), root:(295,1027), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False
KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001, root 0x114, subw 0x0, time 5773331, (258,1002), root:(295,1027), state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " " XFilterEvent returns: False
Looks normal.
Just a hunch, but have you checked if any accessibility features like sticky keys are activated? They can make keyboards go 'weird' on you. (System Settings->Accessibility and check all tabs in KDE).
Will
<snip> None are activated Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/04/2010 05:10 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 04 May 2010 02:10:41 Jim Sabatke wrote:
Again, I believe the keyboard is functioning properly. One other symptom: sometimes I have to press the space key twice after a word to actually insert a space in between words. Since I touch type without looking at the screen, this is incredibly annoying.
My system has been getting more unstable and I finally had to use gnome, which I hate, since plasma started crashing upon login. I had downloaded some lib's, all from the SuSE site, but none really recently. However, I reloaded the whole default system and the problems went away ... for a while. After a day and a half, the odd plasma errors started popping up. Then yesterday everything I typed echoed greek characters. Characters programs displayed were fine, just the ones I typed were greek. I eliminated all by program specific .* files again and the problem went away.
Not sure if it will stay this way. Thoughts? Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 [Sent later] On 2010-05-12 03:17, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Then yesterday everything I typed echoed greek characters. Characters programs displayed were fine, just the ones I typed were greek.
I reported something like that in Bugzilla for factory, recently. I don't have the number available just now (I'm off the network). - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkvqYsUACgkQja8UbcUWM1y4jAD/aiUBmgkd5kXakfbCnEXt67rQ RLgQPBvmrfa1Gx2lFaQA/0JIIUDUQVY0myz2T8MK9elFZ+HYCl6YZ6NYxYDeU5u7 =NS/i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2010 01:11 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2010-05-03 03:13, Jim Sabatke wrote:
[sent later]
SuSE 11.2, KDE 4.3.5
I did a fresh install of SuSE 11.2 a few weeks ago and have been banging my head against walls since. I am experiencing text entry problems.
1. TAB key acts strange sometimes.
I would make sure that the keyboard does work properly, the tab key could be bad. Try another oS, if you have it installed, or a live CD of 11.2 if not.
I don't think that's it. I tried windows and the keyboard works fine. Also, I wrote "sometimes" in the original message. I can have different instances of a program, like "konsole" running and some will work fine and others won't. The original message goes into a lot more detail about the problems than in the snippet above. Thanks for responding, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2010 07:03 PM, Jim Sabatke wrote:
On 05/03/2010 01:11 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2010-05-03 03:13, Jim Sabatke wrote:
[sent later]
SuSE 11.2, KDE 4.3.5
I did a fresh install of SuSE 11.2 a few weeks ago and have been banging my head against walls since. I am experiencing text entry problems.
1. TAB key acts strange sometimes.
I would make sure that the keyboard does work properly, the tab key could be bad. Try another oS, if you have it installed, or a live CD of 11.2 if not.
I don't think that's it. I tried windows and the keyboard works fine. Also, I wrote "sometimes" in the original message. I can have different instances of a program, like "konsole" running and some will work fine and others won't. The original message goes into a lot more detail about the problems than in the snippet above.
Thanks for responding,
Jim
Just to close the loop on this, I never solved my text entry problems despite multiple re-installs of 11.2. 11.3 shows no such troubles. Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2010-11-16 at 01:01 -0600, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Just to close the loop on this, I never solved my text entry problems despite multiple re-installs of 11.2. 11.3 shows no such troubles.
Curious. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkzihiwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WyhgCeNqHFZtyP6FT/f4kCGbr3ilLC QdsAnRbHtzdUq3rBi8GfMXTEPC//uR6v =KGyz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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