[opensuse] Changing ATI 9200 Driver
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki. So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver. Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.) How do I make this driver primary? -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.)
How do I make this driver primary?
-- ---Bryen---
Okay, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do. I rebooted my box and now I no longer have a graphical login and I get display errors when I run sax2. hwinfo still lists the new driver as a secondary. Thank goodness I discovered w3m the other day and can still get online to email you guys. :-) Should I just rpm -e the new ATI driver that was installed to revert back to the original state or do I need to do something else as well? I'd like to see if changing the driver to primary would fix things before I revert back to original state. Might as well make lemons when life gives you lemonade... (oh wait, did I botch that one up?) Help is greatly appreciated in this momentary minor crisis. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.)
How do I make this driver primary?
-- ---Bryen---
Okay, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do. I rebooted my box and now I no longer have a graphical login and I get display errors when I run sax2. hwinfo still lists the new driver as a secondary.
Thank goodness I discovered w3m the other day and can still get online to email you guys. :-)
Should I just rpm -e the new ATI driver that was installed to revert back to the original state or do I need to do something else as well? I'd like to see if changing the driver to primary would fix things before I revert back to original state.
Might as well make lemons when life gives you lemonade... (oh wait, did I botch that one up?)
Help is greatly appreciated in this momentary minor crisis.
Bryen
=========== Bryen, Have you tried running sax2 to enable the fglrx module or even the aticonfig program for the newly installed ati software? Try: sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx I know they have made several changes in the past few years and different methods have been used to enable & load the ati driver modules, but I think sax2 is capable now to do that for you. Documentation is always good at this point also. ;-) good luck Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.)
How do I make this driver primary?
-- ---Bryen---
Okay, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do. I rebooted my box and now I no longer have a graphical login and I get display errors when I run sax2. hwinfo still lists the new driver as a secondary.
Thank goodness I discovered w3m the other day and can still get online to email you guys. :-)
Should I just rpm -e the new ATI driver that was installed to revert back to the original state or do I need to do something else as well? I'd like to see if changing the driver to primary would fix things before I revert back to original state.
Might as well make lemons when life gives you lemonade... (oh wait, did I botch that one up?)
Help is greatly appreciated in this momentary minor crisis.
Bryen
=========== Bryen, Have you tried running sax2 to enable the fglrx module or even the aticonfig program for the newly installed ati software?
Try: sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
I know they have made several changes in the past few years and different methods have been used to enable & load the ati driver modules, but I think sax2 is capable now to do that for you. Documentation is always good at this point also. ;-)
I ran that command per opensuse wiki documentation and nothing happened. Then on the off chance, I decided to reboot, and that's when I lost all graphical capabilities. :-( Further investigation: As this was all done with one-click install, I just now looked at the exact rpm's that were installed: x11-video-fglrxG01-8.41.7-5.1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.4.7_2.6.22.5_30-1.1 Looking at that last rpm, the end part of the name, I believe implies the kernel version. I have a newer kernel as pushed out by the security update, and it is 2.6.22.9-04. Perhaps this is the problem? Anyway, since I don't want to damage it further, is it at all possible to revert back to my original state by simply rpm -e-ing the above rpms? Thanks, Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.)
How do I make this driver primary?
-- ---Bryen---
Okay, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do. I rebooted my box and now I no longer have a graphical login and I get display errors when I run sax2. hwinfo still lists the new driver as a secondary.
Thank goodness I discovered w3m the other day and can still get online to email you guys. :-)
Should I just rpm -e the new ATI driver that was installed to revert back to the original state or do I need to do something else as well? I'd like to see if changing the driver to primary would fix things before I revert back to original state.
Might as well make lemons when life gives you lemonade... (oh wait, did I botch that one up?)
Help is greatly appreciated in this momentary minor crisis.
Bryen
=========== Bryen, Have you tried running sax2 to enable the fglrx module or even the aticonfig program for the newly installed ati software?
Try: sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
I know they have made several changes in the past few years and different methods have been used to enable & load the ati driver modules, but I think sax2 is capable now to do that for you. Documentation is always good at this point also. ;-)
I ran that command per opensuse wiki documentation and nothing happened. Then on the off chance, I decided to reboot, and that's when I lost all graphical capabilities. :-(
Further investigation:
As this was all done with one-click install, I just now looked at the exact rpm's that were installed:
x11-video-fglrxG01-8.41.7-5.1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.4.7_2.6.22.5_30-1.1
Looking at that last rpm, the end part of the name, I believe implies the kernel version. I have a newer kernel as pushed out by the security update, and it is 2.6.22.9-04. Perhaps this is the problem?
Anyway, since I don't want to damage it further, is it at all possible to revert back to my original state by simply rpm -e-ing the above rpms?
Thanks, Bryen ==============
Ok, yes, that could very well be your problem Bryen! Mismatched kernel modules, so obviously it's not finding what it needs to finish installing and setting up. You could possibly revert back to the required kernel or just quit at this point and use the xorg drivers, which should do well enough. Yes, rpm -e those installed files. I would probably remove the present xorg.conf file or at least rename it, so sax2 will build a fresh untouched configuration file. Boot into init 3 only, then run your sax2 again. bye, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
BandiPat wrote:
Ok, yes, that could very well be your problem Bryen! Mismatched kernel modules, so obviously it's not finding what it needs to finish installing and setting up. You could possibly revert back to the required kernel or just quit at this point and use the xorg drivers, which should do well enough.
Yes, rpm -e those installed files. I would probably remove the present xorg.conf file or at least rename it, so sax2 will build a fresh untouched configuration file. Boot into init 3 only, then run your sax2 again.
BTW you don't have to "reboot" to get to runlevel 3. Simply "init 3" as root will do the trick. Once all is in order, "exec init 5" will close the root terminal session and restart the GUI. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 12:48 -0700, Sloan wrote:
BandiPat wrote:
Ok, yes, that could very well be your problem Bryen! Mismatched kernel modules, so obviously it's not finding what it needs to finish installing and setting up. You could possibly revert back to the required kernel or just quit at this point and use the xorg drivers, which should do well enough.
Yes, rpm -e those installed files. I would probably remove the present xorg.conf file or at least rename it, so sax2 will build a fresh untouched configuration file. Boot into init 3 only, then run your sax2 again.
BTW you don't have to "reboot" to get to runlevel 3. Simply "init 3" as root will do the trick.
Once all is in order, "exec init 5" will close the root terminal session and restart the GUI.
Joe
Coming to you LIVE AND IN GRAPHICS!!! Thanks guys, really appreciate it. Just in case anyone else wishes to reference this in the archives for their own fixes. 1. Rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2. Use rpm -e --nodeps (rpm name) (This is because ATI installed two rpm's and neither would uninstall as long as it saw the presence of the other one.) 3. Repeat rpm -e --nodeps (rpm name) for the second rpm file. 3. init 3 4. sax2 - go through the configs as you see fit. 5. close sax2 and exec init 5. Again, thanks to you all! -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
BandiPat wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
I ran that command per opensuse wiki documentation and nothing happened. Then on the off chance, I decided to reboot, and that's when I lost all graphical capabilities. :-(
Further investigation:
As this was all done with one-click install, I just now looked at the exact rpm's that were installed:
x11-video-fglrxG01-8.41.7-5.1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.4.7_2.6.22.5_30-1.1
Ok, yes, that could very well be your problem Bryen! Mismatched kernel modules, so obviously it's not finding what it needs to finish installing and setting up. You could possibly revert back to the required kernel or just quit at this point and use the xorg drivers, which should do well enough.
Yes, rpm -e those installed files. I would probably remove the present xorg.conf file or at least rename it, so sax2 will build a fresh untouched configuration file. Boot into init 3 only, then run your sax2 again.
bye, Lee
I'm not an expert on this, but I THINK the problem could be that you installed the wrong driver for your card. The one click install seems a bit misleading to me, it downloads the newest driver from ATI. But looking at the online compatibility page, the last driver listed showing the 9200 is version 8.28.8. I think you will need to install this driver package the "hard way" as listed at http://en.opensuse.org/ati, not one click. That's my understanding anyway. Maybe others on the list could clarify. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 15:10 -0500, Jim Flanagan wrote:
BandiPat wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2007, suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
I ran that command per opensuse wiki documentation and nothing happened. Then on the off chance, I decided to reboot, and that's when I lost all graphical capabilities. :-(
Further investigation:
As this was all done with one-click install, I just now looked at the exact rpm's that were installed:
x11-video-fglrxG01-8.41.7-5.1 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.4.7_2.6.22.5_30-1.1
Ok, yes, that could very well be your problem Bryen! Mismatched kernel modules, so obviously it's not finding what it needs to finish installing and setting up. You could possibly revert back to the required kernel or just quit at this point and use the xorg drivers, which should do well enough.
Yes, rpm -e those installed files. I would probably remove the present xorg.conf file or at least rename it, so sax2 will build a fresh untouched configuration file. Boot into init 3 only, then run your sax2 again.
bye, Lee
I'm not an expert on this, but I THINK the problem could be that you installed the wrong driver for your card. The one click install seems a bit misleading to me, it downloads the newest driver from ATI. But looking at the online compatibility page, the last driver listed showing the 9200 is version 8.28.8. I think you will need to install this driver package the "hard way" as listed at http://en.opensuse.org/ati, not one click.
That's my understanding anyway. Maybe others on the list could clarify.
Jim F
Agreed that this one-click install was totally misleading. Had I paid attention earlier and had the ability to see what rpm's were going to be installed, I would have caught that kernel difference and backed off. In any case, from what was mentioned earlier, the 9200 really didn't offer much in the way of Desktop Effects benefits, so I don't see the point in trying again. At least, I learned an important lesson in how to back-rev graphics drivers. So I gained something anyway. :-) -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. Yes, you do, just like me (9200 SE here)
But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a
Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki. Well, 3D is somehow supported for things like tuxracer but nothing at all in regard to desktop effects.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
As you can easily see on: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html The ATI driver for this card supports xorg 7.1 as the highest supported version. Depending on your version of SUSE, you might have it and then it will work. For me, 7.2 is what I have and therefore I only get the "native 3D performance from the open source driver". As NVidia's driver policy is much more "tolerant" in regard of support for older hardware, one thing is sure for me: It does not matter to me what good things they will do under hte direction of AMD in regard to Opensource. This will definitely be the last ATI that I bought. Luckily I do not care about desktop effects. I tried them on another computer and did not find any productive enhancements for my style of work.
Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.)
How do I make this driver primary?
I am afraid, you can't. ;-)) Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
I had thought I had an older graphics card in my system that wouldn't support Desktop Effects. Yes, you do, just like me (9200 SE here)
But I discovered with glee that I indeed had a
Radeon 9200 which is on the support list in the wiki. Well, 3D is somehow supported for things like tuxracer but nothing at all in regard to desktop effects.
So I proceeded to do the one-click install of the ATI proprietary driver. But nothing changed. Sax2 still saw the old driver and wouldn't let me change to the new driver.
As you can easily see on: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html
The ATI driver for this card supports xorg 7.1 as the highest supported version. Depending on your version of SUSE, you might have it and then it will work.
For me, 7.2 is what I have and therefore I only get the "native 3D performance from the open source driver".
As NVidia's driver policy is much more "tolerant" in regard of support for older hardware, one thing is sure for me: It does not matter to me what good things they will do under hte direction of AMD in regard to Opensource.
This will definitely be the last ATI that I bought. Luckily I do not care about desktop effects. I tried them on another computer and did not find any productive enhancements for my style of work.
Going into Yast2 > Hardware > Hardware Information > Display, I see that the new driver is listed as (secondary.)
How do I make this driver primary?
I am afraid, you can't. ;-))
Kind regards Eberhard
Eberhard, thanks for the feedback. Ok, so if I just rpm -e the new driver, will I get back to my original state? Rebooting my machine, I lost all my graphics capabilities and now am relegated to just command line.
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