[SLE] Windows 2000 Professional in a UNIX Environment
For those interested I have included this URL. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win2000/scsunix.asp Be forewarned- this is M$ FUD and downright lies. An example: 1. Obtain Services for UNIX 2.0 from your reseller. 2. Insert the CD into the CD ROM Drive. .....next section..... In connecting Windows and UNIX systems for file access, you have two choices: 1. Make UNIX servers expose their resources to SMB-based clients. 2. Make SMB-based clients able to access NFS-based resources. In practice, this has required either modifying UNIX servers to support non-NFS clients or using third-party software for accessing NFS resources. Your UNIX administrator does not have the time, or the inclination to load SMB on the staging server: It introduces greater complexity and security concerns to the server. To meet the requirement, you will have to make your Windows clients work with the UNIX server, not vice-versa. <snip> I get it! M$ would rather you BOUGHT a M$ package rather than bother your Unix admin- How thoughtful of them$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ You have been warned. -- Bob F EMail FBob@wt.net A Truly Wise Man Never Plays Leapfrog With A Unicorn... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
BobF wrote:
For those interested I have included this URL.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win2000/scsunix.asp
Be forewarned- this is M$ FUD and downright lies. An example:
1. Obtain Services for UNIX 2.0 from your reseller. 2. Insert the CD into the CD ROM Drive. .....next section..... In connecting Windows and UNIX systems for file access, you have two choices:
1. Make UNIX servers expose their resources to SMB-based clients. 2. Make SMB-based clients able to access NFS-based resources.
In practice, this has required either modifying UNIX servers to support non-NFS clients or using third-party software for accessing NFS resources.
Your UNIX administrator does not have the time, or the inclination to load SMB on the staging server: It introduces greater complexity and security concerns to the server. To meet the requirement, you will have to make your Windows clients work with the UNIX server, not vice-versa. <snip>
I get it! M$ would rather you BOUGHT a M$ package rather than bother your Unix admin- How thoughtful of them$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You have been warned.
-- Bob F
A very interesting read. I especially liked this sentence: "1. Log on as an Administrator. If you log on using an account that does not have administrative privileges, you may not be able to install and configure the components." I hereby apologize to all members of this list, past, present, and future for enduring my ignorant ramblings about the supposed technical proficiency of any IT department in any company, regardless of size. I don't know what I was thinking. I assuredly was mistaken in thinking that an administrator would *know* that they have to log in as an administrator to do system administration. Since this is the level of expertise that is expected of system administrators, Linux is not ready for the desktop, nor the back office, nor the web. Let us cast aside our keyboards and our ability to think and point and click click click click, and be led by our noses with demeaning and insulting instructions such as these. No wonder secretaries are becoming MCSE's - the pay is better and they don't need any technical problem-solving skills. Seriously, I thank the list for allowing me to be so sarcastic. -- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, George Toft wrote: <snip>
A very interesting read. I especially liked this sentence: "1. Log on as an Administrator. If you log on using an account that does not have administrative privileges, you may not be able to install and configure the components."
I hereby apologize to all members of this list, past, present, and future for enduring my ignorant ramblings about the supposed technical proficiency of any IT department in any company, regardless of size. I don't know what I was thinking. I assuredly was mistaken in thinking that an administrator would *know* that they have to log in as an administrator to do system administration. Since this is the level of expertise that is expected of system administrators, Linux is not ready for the desktop, nor the back office, nor the web. Let us cast aside our keyboards and our ability to think and point and click click click click, and be led by our noses with demeaning and insulting instructions such as these.
No wonder secretaries are becoming MCSE's - the pay is better and they don't need any technical problem-solving skills.
Seriously, I thank the list for allowing me to be so sarcastic.
-- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com
You must know some sharp secretaries. The level 1 help desk girls I know can't pass the A+ test let alone Networking Essentials. -- Bob F EMail FBob@wt.net A Truly Wise Man Never Plays Leapfrog With A Unicorn... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
BobF wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, George Toft wrote: <snip>
A very interesting read. I especially liked this sentence: "1. Log on as an Administrator. If you log on using an account that does not have administrative privileges, you may not be able to install and configure the components."
I hereby apologize to all members of this list, past, present, and future for enduring my ignorant ramblings about the supposed technical proficiency of any IT department in any company, regardless of size. I don't know what I was thinking. I assuredly was mistaken in thinking that an administrator would *know* that they have to log in as an administrator to do system administration. Since this is the level of expertise that is expected of system administrators, Linux is not ready for the desktop, nor the back office, nor the web. Let us cast aside our keyboards and our ability to think and point and click click click click, and be led by our noses with demeaning and insulting instructions such as these.
No wonder secretaries are becoming MCSE's - the pay is better and they don't need any technical problem-solving skills.
Seriously, I thank the list for allowing me to be so sarcastic.
-- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com
You must know some sharp secretaries. The level 1 help desk girls I know can't pass the A+ test let alone Networking Essentials.
-- Bob F
Uh, no. He is not very sharp - didn't know the difference between a cat 5 cable and coax. Did not know how to use the event viewer, nor how to start and stop services. That is, until I showed him, and I am not an MCSE, nor an MCP. Sadly, he represents about half of the MCSE's and MCP's I've met in person. The term "paper MCSE" comes to mind. I don't mean to start a flame war, but I am opposed to certifications. I am a certified Senior Network Specialist, and obtained it as a prerequisite to teach the classes at the college. I feel there are better ways to assess the qualifications of a candidate for a job, or a consulting job, than a certification program that has at least a dozen crash-courses (including MCSE's for Dummies) for it. A person's work speaks for itself. -- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On 12 Mar, BobF wrote:
In connecting Windows and UNIX systems for file access, you have two choices:
1. Make UNIX servers expose their resources to SMB-based clients.
Nice wording, "expose"... Now if they would have used the word "M$users" instead of "clients" ;-)
Your UNIX administrator does not have the time, or the inclination to load SMB on the staging server: It introduces greater complexity and security concerns to the server. To meet the requirement, you will have to make your Windows clients work with the UNIX server, not vice-versa. <snip>
Ah :-) They are admitting to the fact that the SMB protocol cannot be made as safe as anything on the UNIX platform. He he ;-) Apart from that I agree that this is typical M$ FUD at its best (worst?). Tjo ------------------- If you divide 1 by the number of sane people that happily and volontarily use Winxxxx, what do you get? "Divide by zero". ;-) (Yes, I have been arguing with the M$ goons at my work today!) ------------------- <HR> <UL> <LI>APPLICATION/pgp-signature attachment: stored </UL> -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
BobF wrote:
I get it! M$ would rather you BOUGHT a M$ package rather than bother your Unix admin- How thoughtful of them$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You have been warned.
As seen in a dutch newspaper: Metro, 15-3-2000, page 9 <translated article> Windows ME more limited Microsoft will limit the functionality of Windows ME (Millennium Edition) to push Windows 2000. In the replacement for Windows 98 there is no software for connecting with Novell Netware and Banyan servers. The OS also does not support Microsoft Active Directory. The Millennium Edition does however contain the Microsoft Networking client for connectiing to NT-networks and broadband services like cable etc. Now how about that? BB, Arjen -- Sell what you use, use what you sell. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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