[SuSE Linux] Websites and SuSE - The Desparity
/biz/needs/linux/support/ Greetings- As a connoisseur of Linux, I delight in using and promoting the SuSE distribution with all the amenities in applications and scripts, it is with joy that many users in the U.S.'s largest state have joined in this venture. Having said this, there remains a desparity between the two sites suse.de and suse.com in content, information and offerings. As an example, today is 3-21-99 in Anchorage, AK, and viewing the URL <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/index_us.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/index_us.html</A">http://www.suse.com/index_us.html</A</A>> I see a total of 5 bulleted points of interest. None new in nature, unless you didn't know about 6.0 being released. Granted, <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.de/e/index.html</A</A>> has more, but you don't get sent to this page when you access the map at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>>. Now on <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/</A">http://www.suse.de/</A</A>> there are today, 18 bulleted points of interest with "new" tags as well on some. These tags range from a new beta release to new software updates. Now, I am employed as a professional in the data world, have vendors calling on us daily, as we have offerings ranging from ATM services to dry pairs, dialup Internet to OC3's, retail Long Distance to wholesale MTS and more. I visit conferences as often as time permits, and I do seek the vendor information necessary to make a critical judgement. Why should it be different using SuSE's web sites ? I will be marketing to users world wide and will be using someone's distribution, and a web site that has current info is going a long way to cutting down costs for our company and the vendor. Therefore, I entreat the folks in charge of the English site to help in working out a new push for quality in the English web site, consistent with the main thrust of SuSE. Best Regards -Dee cd / -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Actually Dee, I think they need to get a bit snazzier as well. I mean they have a chameleon as a mascot and it comes in one color GREEN. Go figure? This may sound like a trivial jab, but I believe it hits at a core lack of excitement is SuSE's marketing image. I saw a good book today in the bookstore that went through the functions and features of Star Office, the KDE, and many more Linux goodies. This book had a dist of another Linux on the included CD. Yes, the SuSE book is likely the best technical resource available with a Linux dist. The book I am taking about was full of airbrushed color pictures. It's glitzy. It will sell. I like SuSE and I have the feeling that the folks on this list are above average in their focus and knowledge in comparison to other dist's mailing lists. I want to see SuSE grow. I don't want one distribution to become the Microsoft of Linux. I am beginning to formulate some ideas of how SuSE could make fundamental changes in thins like YAST and really improve the value of this already find product. I was thinking today that the folks at SuSE should step back and really challenge their paradigm. Not because it is bad, but because I believe it could be much better. I want to make it clear that I am not dissing SuSE. I find it much easier to work on my SuSE box than I do on my Solaris box. Things just tend to fall into place better. I am a few versions of Solaris behind, so that might not be a fair comparison. Nonetheless, I have accomplished an incredible amount on this box that I don't believe I would have done as easily on either NT (too "black box") or on Solaris (too arcane). I hope this is taken in the sense of constructive criticism that I intend. Steve "W.D.McKinney" wrote:
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Greetings- As a connoisseur of Linux, I delight in using and promoting the SuSE distribution with all the amenities in applications and scripts, it is with joy that many users in the U.S.'s largest state have joined in this venture.
Having said this, there remains a desparity between the two sites suse.de and suse.com in content, information and offerings. As an example, today is 3-21-99 in Anchorage, AK, and viewing the URL <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/index_us.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/index_us.html</A">http://www.suse.com/index_us.html</A</A>> I see a total of 5 bulleted points of interest. None new in nature, unless you didn't know about 6.0 being released. Granted, <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.de/e/index.html</A</A>> has more, but you don't get sent to this page when you access the map at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>>.
Now on <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/</A">http://www.suse.de/</A</A>> there are today, 18 bulleted points of interest with "new" tags as well on some. These tags range from a new beta release to new software updates.
Now, I am employed as a professional in the data world, have vendors calling on us daily, as we have offerings ranging from ATM services to dry pairs, dialup Internet to OC3's, retail Long Distance to wholesale MTS and more. I visit conferences as often as time permits, and I do seek the vendor information necessary to make a critical judgement.
Why should it be different using SuSE's web sites ? I will be marketing to users world wide and will be using someone's distribution, and a web site that has current info is going a long way to cutting down costs for our company and the vendor.
Therefore, I entreat the folks in charge of the English site to help in working out a new push for quality in the English web site, consistent with the main thrust of SuSE.
Best Regards -Dee
cd /
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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:
Therefore, I entreat the folks in charge of the English site to help in working out a new push for quality in the English web site, consistent with the main thrust of SuSE.
Best Regards -Dee
Great post Dee. So you are not alone in this I will echo it and do the usually prohibitive "me too" in this regard. Hopefully they will do whatever it takes to address this as this is one point I have heard mentioned on several fronts lately in respect to the SuSE distribution. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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