[SuSE Linux] xserver problem
Hi ! I got suse linux 5.3 today and since it's the first time I use it, I don't know much about it. So now I have a problem. When I'm using sax to configure xwindow I can't use a specific server for my card, since it's matrox productiva g100 so I guess I have to use xsvga, and then I write in my monitors sync spec (which btw are 30-70 khz, 50-150 hz) and then enters the desktop page, where the real problem is. There are no screenmodes to choose. Not in any colors. How do I get some screenmodes to choose from ? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hello everyone :) I'm having problems with getting my cd-rom to work with yast. I recently changed the installation media to a directory and when I tried changing back to cd-rom it gave me a list of cd-rom drives that i don't have. The closest thing is the creative cd-rom but that wouldn't mount it either. I can still mount the drive outside of yast with mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom. Anyone have a clue? Originally setup configured the drive for yast. TIA, Harry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
<MY VALUE="$0.02"> just a quick observation, I dont know anything about the yast admin tool suse being one of the few linux distributions I havent run yet (*cough*still waiting for my copy of 5.3 to arrive*cough*) , but one thing I have noticed about admin tools in general is that they take away from the learning expierence, and make people too dependant on them to take the time to learn how to do things the "hard way"... regarding this particular situation, I dont know what yast is supposed to do with the cdrom, so I wont even attempt to determine the root of the problem, but can it really be more difficult than typing "mount /dev/cdrom" (assuming you have the corresponding entry in your /etc/fstab, mabye since I dont know what functionality yast plays with the cdrom I am stepping out of bounds, but it really couldnt be *that* much of a timesaver could it? </MY> zens On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Rihmez wrote:
Hello everyone :)
I'm having problems with getting my cd-rom to work with yast. I recently changed the installation media to a directory and when I tried changing back to cd-rom it gave me a list of cd-rom drives that i don't have. The closest thing is the creative cd-rom but that wouldn't mount it either. I can still mount the drive outside of yast with mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom. Anyone have a clue? Originally setup configured the drive for yast.
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zens wrote:
<MY VALUE="$0.02"> just a quick observation, I dont know anything about the yast admin tool suse being one of the few linux distributions I havent run yet (*cough*still waiting for my copy of 5.3 to arrive*cough*) , but one thing I have noticed about admin tools in general is that they take away from the learning expierence, and make people too dependant on them to
take the time to learn how to do things the "hard way"... regarding this particular situation, I dont know what yast is supposed to do with the cdrom, so I wont even attempt to determine the root of the problem, but can it really be more difficult than typing "mount /dev/cdrom" (assuming you have the corresponding entry in your /etc/fstab, mabye since I dont know what functionality yast plays with the cdrom I am stepping out of bounds, but it really couldnt be *that* much of a timesaver could it? </MY> I can install with the method you have suggested but that isn't the
I agree. point. The point is that something is wrong with the admin tool that suse is known for... I simply would like to know why it is giving me problems, and *learn* how to fix it. I really couldn't agree with you more on these automagic tools taking away from the learning experience...I don't want windoze. I've only had my own computer for about a year and a half and have only switched to linux in July (only linux, no windoze:) I must say that I have learned more in the past month or so than ever before, all thanks to linux. I'm sorry that I can't be the guru you seem to be. regards Harry
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On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Rihmez wrote: <snip my babble>
I can install with the method you have suggested but that isn't the point. The point is that something is wrong with the admin tool that suse is known for... I simply would like to know why it is giving me problems, and *learn* how to fix it.
I really couldn't agree with you more on these automagic tools taking away from the learning experience...I don't want windoze. I've only had my own computer for about a year and a half and have only switched to linux in July (only linux, no windoze:) I must say that I have learned more in the past month or so than ever before, all thanks to linux. I'm sorry that I can't be the guru you seem to be. </snip>
I wasnt trying to come across as "holier then thou", or with a superioristic (is that a word?) attitude... and I wouldnt quite consider myself a "guru", though I have been with unix/linux/computing in general for quite some time now, just a "seasoned enthusiast" ;) I do agree that is a tool doesnt work the way it was intended to, that there is a problem, I just dont know enough about the tool in question to be of any assistance, I was just trying to stress the point that relying on things that make life easier ruins the fun of learning, though using them after you already know, they are a joy to work with (generally)... zens - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
You're correct that using special setup tools take away much of the learning experience by insulating the user from the system configuration, but you don't have to use them. You can turn off SuSEconfig so that it doesn't run. Also, SuSEconfig alerts me when I manually change a file that it normally sets up and leaves it alone. Right now the only activities I use yast for are installation of multiple rpms, setup of apsfilter (which doesn't need yast to work anyway), and setting up X (ditto comment). Other than that I muck around in the files, because that's how the HOWTOS are written. As for the post by Rihmez, I never even knew yast could set up one's cd-rom drive. Is this new in 5.3? All one has to do is read a the mount manage, check out their existing /etc/fstab, and ask a few questions here and you're in business! Mark --- zens wrote:
<MY VALUE="$0.02"> just a quick observation, I dont know anything about the yast admin tool suse being one of the few linux distributions I havent run yet (*cough*still waiting for my copy of 5.3 to arrive*cough*) , but one thing I have noticed about admin tools in general is that they take away from the learning expierence, and make people too dependant on them to take the time to learn how to do things the "hard way"... regarding this particular situation, I dont know what yast is supposed to do with the cdrom, so I wont even attempt to determine the root of the problem, but can it really be more difficult than typing "mount /dev/cdrom" (assuming you have the corresponding entry in your /etc/fstab, mabye since I dont know what functionality yast plays with the cdrom I am stepping out of bounds, but it really couldnt be *that* much of a timesaver could it? </MY>
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Hi, On Fri, Sep 04, Rihmez wrote:
I'm having problems with getting my cd-rom to work with yast. I recently changed the installation media to a directory and when I tried changing back to cd-rom it gave me a list of cd-rom drives that i don't have. The
Well, what kind of CD-ROM DO you have? This info is needed for people to be able to help you. There are four major groups of CD-ROM drives: 1. ATAPI (EIDE) ones. They are connected to the EIDE controller and named /dev/hda to /dev/hdd 2. SCSI drives. They are attached to a SCSI adapter and named /dev/scd0 or /dev/scd1 (some people prefer the names /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1) 3. Parallel port drives. Starting with 5.3 they are named /dev/pcd0 to /dev/pcd4 (need protocol modules dependant of the manufacturer) 4. Proprietary drives (with own interface card). They are called /dev/mcd, /dev/optcd, /dev/sbpcd and so on.
closest thing is the creative cd-rom but that wouldn't mount it either. I can still mount the drive outside of yast with mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom. Anyone have a clue?
Originally setup configured the drive for yast.
TIA, Harry -o) Hubert Mantel /\\ _\_v
This means /dev/cdrom is pointing to the correct device. Just do a ls -l /dev/cdrom and look where it points to. That is your CD-ROM drive to use. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hubert Mantel wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 04, Rihmez wrote: > > > I'm having problems with getting my cd-rom to work with yast. I recently > > changed the installation media to a directory and when I tried changing > > back to cd-rom it gave me a list of cd-rom drives that i don't have. The > > Well, what kind of CD-ROM DO you have? This info is needed for people to > be able to help you. > > There are four major groups of CD-ROM drives: > > 1. ATAPI (EIDE) ones. They are connected to the EIDE controller and This worked! Thanks for your help:) harry named > /dev/hda to /dev/hdd > 2. SCSI drives. They are attached to a SCSI adapter and named /dev/scd0 > or /dev/scd1 (some people prefer the names /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1) > 3. Parallel port drives. Starting with 5.3 they are named /dev/pcd0 to > /dev/pcd4 (need protocol modules dependant of the manufacturer) > 4. Proprietary drives (with own interface card). They are called /dev/mcd, > /dev/optcd, /dev/sbpcd and so on. > > > closest thing is the creative cd-rom but that wouldn't mount it either. > > I can still mount the drive outside of yast with mount -t iso9660 > > /dev/cdrom /cdrom. Anyone have a clue? > > This means /dev/cdrom is pointing to the correct device. Just do a > > ls -l /dev/cdrom > > and look where it points to. That is your CD-ROM drive to use. > > > Originally setup configured the drive for yast. > > > > TIA, > > Harry > -o) > Hubert Mantel /\\ > _\_v > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Daniel Karlsson wrote:
I got suse linux 5.3 today and since it's the first time I use it, I don't know much about it. So now I have a problem. When I'm using sax to configure xwindow I can't use a specific server for my card, since it's matrox productiva g100 so I guess I have to use xsvga, and then I write in my monitors sync spec (which btw are 30-70 khz, 50-150 hz) and then enters the desktop page, where the real problem is. There are no screenmodes to choose. Not in any colors. How do I get some screenmodes to choose from ?
The G100 is currently not supported by XFree86. Please see the FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/</A">http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/</A</A>> for reasons. However, there is a commercial X-Server from Xi Graphics at <A HREF="http://www.xig.com"><A HREF="http://www.xig.com</A">http://www.xig.com</A</A>>, which supports this card. LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer S.u.S.E. GmbH <A HREF="mailto:grimmer@suse.de">mailto:grimmer@suse.de</A> Gebhardtstrasse 2 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
At 06:57 PM 09/04/98 +0200, Daniel Karlsson wrote:
Hi !
I got suse linux 5.3 today and since it's the first time I use it, I don't know much about it. So now I have a problem. When I'm using sax to configure xwindow I can't use a specific server for my card, since it's matrox productiva g100 so I guess I have to use xsvga, and then I write in my monitors sync spec (which btw are 30-70 khz, 50-150 hz) and then enters the desktop page, where the real problem is. There are no screenmodes to choose. Not in any colors. How do I get some screenmodes to choose from ?
Use the xf86config utility, a command line utility which prompts you for various items. I suggest, run it a couple of times and save the file in some temp dir to get used to all the sections of the XF86Config file. This utility will pretty much give you a basic functional XF86Config file (with default mode lines). You can tweak it later. Plus, reading the man page (man XF86Config) and the README file for the specific server that supports your video card will also help you understand the various sections of the XF86Config files and any adjustments to be made to resolve problems specific with your video card. HTH -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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