Although I've been using 11.0 since it came out on several boxes, I haven't happened to need a print spooler on any of those until yesterday, when I discovered that the yast cups interface is broken, at least for me at least in the curses interface. Starting with an 11.0 install with up to the minute online updates applied, and the cups service running (though never been configurd yet): yast, Printer, Printers & queues, add, (x) Network Printers (x) Print Directly to a Network Printer (x) Direct TCP Port Printing ┌Connection Information────────────────────────────────────┐ │ Hostname of Print Server │ │ mycustomer.dyndns.biz▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒↓[Look Up↓] │ │ TCP Port Number │ │ 9100▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ │ │ │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ [Test Remote Socket Access] ┌──────────────────────────────────┐ │ │ │ The print server is accessible. │ │ └───────────│ [OK] │ ──────────┘ └──────────────────────────────────┘ ┌Queue Name and Spooler Settings───────────────────────────────────┐ │Name for Printing │ │printer▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │ │ │Printer Description │ │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │Printer Location │ │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │[ ] Share Printer │ │ │ │[ ] Do Local Filtering │ │ │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Now it brings you back to the screen where you can add/edit/delete more queues, or test printing or finish. At this point there is still no /etc/cups/printers.conf When you either finish or if you try to test printing, either way it tries to save the config you just defined and fails. (x) Test Text Printing │ ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ │ │ Error │ │ │ │ An error occurred while communicating with the │ │ │ │ CUPS server while saving queue y2test. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ cups(File)DoRequest error: client-error-bad-request │ │ │ │ [OK] │ ────┤───┘ │ └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ ────────┐ Then this error which is unimportant, it's expected given above. The queue was not actually created, and so of course the lpd client can't use it. │ ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ │ │ Unable to print the test page. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ Output from lpr: │ │ │ │ /usr/bin/lpr: The printer or class was not found. │ │ │ │ [OK] │ ────┤───┘ │ └────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ ────────┐ You have to choose Abort to get out of the printer setup screen since Finish just fails the same way forever. I also tried variations on the specific config options, like, although I very much should be able to say no local filtering (ie: don't use any kind of printer driver or ppd file) maybe that's not so common and some part of the tool just assumes theres always a driver. etc.. So I also tried with local filtering and selecting an appropriate printer model (HP LaserJet 1320, totally common pcl driver), tried enabling sharing, tried lpd as well as raw tcp, to a known good and accessible lpd server. In all cases I got the same error above when it came time to actually save the config at the end. However, when I copied the printers.conf from the working 10.2 box, it worked. just a straight rsync copy, no edits at all. Then rccups stop, rccups start. And printing to those printers immediately worked. printers.conf just has this, one lpd printer and two jetdirect, no sharing, no filters/drivers. The comment shows a recent write because I had gone into yast-printers on the old box to delete a printer. The 3 remaining printers haven't been touched in around a year. The cups version shows it didn't come from the 11.0 box that's using it. The new box has cups 1.3.7. Obviousy I rewrote the customer name and their hostname in the email. ---TOF--- # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.2.7 # Written by cupsd on 2008-10-14 10:08 <DefaultPrinter mycustomer_checks> Info HP DeskJet 540 Location My Customer, Eileen's Office, winxp psu share DeviceURI lpd://mycustomer.dyndns.biz/checks State Idle StateTime 1229696182 Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy retry-job </Printer> <Printer mycustomer_laser> Info HP LaserJet 1320 Location My Customer DeviceURI socket://mycustomer.dyndns.biz:9100 State Idle StateTime 1229727065 Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy retry-job </Printer> <Printer mycustomer_matrix> Info Okidata Microline 421 Location My Customer DeviceURI socket://mycustomer.dyndns.biz:9101 State Idle StateTime 1229726894 Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy retry-job </Printer> ---EOF--- I looked at cupsd.conf too but I never made any changes to that on either the old or new boxes and they looked about the same on both boxes. Both boxes have the same rules in susefirewall and it's active on the old box and disabling the firewall didn't help the new box, nor did reenabling the firewall break it. I reproduced the problem on 4 boxes, but, they are all practically clones of each other. Installed at the same time onto identical hardware from the same install source using the same install recipe. This all works fine in at least 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, not just 10.2. 9.3 and 9.1 the interface is a little different but I don't have any problems there either. I haven't istalled 11.1 anywhere yet. Can anyone else confirm this or know about it and know what the problem is and a work-around other than manually creating & editing printers.conf? Pretend I only have serial console access and that http://localhost:631 can't be operated well enough via lynx. -- Brian K. 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