Re: [opensuse] Installing stuff takes forever
On Saturday 26 April 2008 03:40:37 pm Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kai Ponte
wrote: I just went to install some rpm files (for TuxPaint) and was concerned.
Every time I clicked on the rpm file (in Konqueror) I was told to install wtih yast. I dutifilyy gave my password and then had to wait several minutes while various cache files were updated before each would install.
Correct. The package management sytem in OpenSuSE is currently, and historically has been, painfully slow.
What can I do to get rid of this behavior?
Write a GUI wrapper for the "rpm" application... failing that you can open the command prompt and do:
$sudo rpm -Uhv <name-of-rpmfile>
I ended up downgrading to the cli and installing - never knew the UHV command switches.. rpm -i name-of-rpmfile.rpm seems to work.
it should install in seconds (depending on the actual RPM package size)
Also you can use SMART Package Manager (why its not the default is unknown) and it will be way faster than YaST2.
I had been using smart from 10.0 to 10.2 but figured YaST was 'fixed" - however I see it isn't actually broken just not exactly what I'd like to see. I'll load SMART again. I remember it being MUCH faster.
The current behavior is analogus to Windows running Windows Setup each time you try to install an MSI package.
Interesting! I hadn't thought of it that way. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:34:54 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
rpm -i name-of-rpmfile.rpm seems to work.
And is usually the switch you *don't* want to use as this will result in a mixture of new and old files. In nearly all cases you want -Uhv because that will do an update, i.e. replace the old package by the new one. In case you have a bunch of RPMs but only want to replace those RPMs you already have installed as an older version, use -Fhv . Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 26 April 2008 05:54:59 pm Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:34:54 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
rpm -i name-of-rpmfile.rpm seems to work.
And is usually the switch you *don't* want to use as this will result in a mixture of new and old files. In nearly all cases you want -Uhv because that will do an update, i.e. replace the old package by the new one. In case you have a bunch of RPMs but only want to replace those RPMs you already have installed as an older version, use -Fhv .
Thanks - case in point why the command line should dissapear. :P -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-04-26 at 17:34 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Also you can use SMART Package Manager (why its not the default is unknown) and it will be way faster than YaST2.
No, it is known.
I had been using smart from 10.0 to 10.2 but figured YaST was 'fixed" - however I see it isn't actually broken just not exactly what I'd like to see.
I'll load SMART again. I remember it being MUCH faster.
Why don't you simply wait and upgrade to O.S. 11? It's only 53 days to go and the software thing is way faster. You can check it out in factory. There is even a video in youtube with a speed comparison. See it here: http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIE9L9tTMYHG2NR9URAlPDAJsFXbsVL3R+1Ygfv/yNvsJ67HqgdgCeIYR9 oVva1+3S9adm+igmYz1WhTw= =wCFW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 26 April 2008 06:12:21 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2008-04-26 at 17:34 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Also you can use SMART Package Manager (why its not the default is unknown) and it will be way faster than YaST2.
No, it is known.
I had been using smart from 10.0 to 10.2 but figured YaST was 'fixed" - however I see it isn't actually broken just not exactly what I'd like to see.
I'll load SMART again. I remember it being MUCH faster.
Why don't you simply wait and upgrade to O.S. 11? It's only 53 days to go and the software thing is way faster. You can check it out in factory.
There is even a video in youtube with a speed comparison.
See it here:
Oh, that definatly is faster. I'm assuming one won't have to use teh commandline? -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-04-27 at 10:33 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
See it here:
Oh, that definatly is faster.
I'm assuming one won't have to use teh commandline?
No, of course not, you have yast, as always. I haven't really tested yast in factory, but the engine underneath being faster, I expect an improvement. To upgrade factory each week I run "zypper dup", which is far simpler than firing yast. And I can upgrade the factory partition while still running 10.3 as main system: downloading 1 or 2 gigs still takes some time, so I stay in 10.3 meanwhile. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFIFNiOtTMYHG2NR9URAg0HAJ43FPWktOLYkl0jmnTU4hU+Oi6dtgCYqNz3 6hd3rx611DEB8epr2EO5Pg== =gisg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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