Hello All, I've been absent from the list for a while. I just got a PowerBook (about a month ago) so all of my attention had been on getting acclimated to that machine. Now that I am comfortable with my Mac, I am ready to delete my windows 2000 partition on my desktop and go full blown linux on that machine. I plan to go with the FTP install. How can I make sure I get the latest distro with the latest KDE and Gnome Desktops and all the security patches. I was having a few issues with my Linux Partition before, so I suppose I would like to start over. Thanks, -=Thinker
On 20/feb/04, at 05:21, Thinker wrote:
Hello All,
I've been absent from the list for a while. I just got a PowerBook (about a month ago) so all of my attention had been on getting acclimated to that machine. Now that I am comfortable with my Mac, I am ready to delete my windows 2000 partition on my desktop and go full blown linux on that machine.
I plan to go with the FTP install. How can I make sure I get the latest distro with the latest KDE and Gnome Desktops and all the security patches.
I was having a few issues with my Linux Partition before, so I suppose I would like to start over.
Well.. noone answered. I'll try, myself. I don't know much about having linux from scratch, but you already have a unix (BSD, though) behind OS X. It's pretty much the same as linux, after all. Of course, you manage it differently from linux (and other unixes...) If you want KDE and Gnome, there are the binaries ready for OS X. Just go to sourceforge.net and get "Fink" and its GUI "Fink Commander" and you'll find there is a complete port of KDE 3 for Macintosh. Gnome is a bit behind, but it's there ,too. You can get lesstif, too. "apt" stands behind Fink. Sometimes you may have to build form the sources and to do that you need to install the developer tool CD contents (essentially gcc 3.x, and the rest). You would get the *-develop rpm's, if you wanted to compile something on linux, don't you? ;-) If you still want SuSE Linux from scratch, I asked something alike weeks ago, here, but I had no answer. I did the same to an italian linux newsgroup and had a pointer: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html - apt for SuSE Where they explain how to updgrade SuSE without using a boot CD. I suppose it could be just as good at installing from scratch and, since, with Fink, you already have apt for Mac, you could as well use OS X and install SuSE on your linux partion. Just some guesses...
Thanks,
-=Thinker
Bye, Ermanno Polli
Hi Ermanno,
I am ready to delete my windows 2000 partition on my desktop and go full blown linux on that machine.
I plan to go with the FTP install. How can I make sure I get the latest distro with the latest KDE and Gnome Desktops and all the security patches.
I am not completely sure, what exactly you are looking for. Let's assume, you want to use OS X on your PB and maybe additional debain stuff via Fink. That makes perfectly sense :-) In addition you would like to get rid of W2K on your PC and install Linux instead. Right? You mentioned SuSE, so it's not RetHat, Debian, or linux-from-scratch (lfs). Consequently you won't you apt, apt-get, ... but Yast instead. You could do an FTP-install of SuSE with all security patches and reasonablely new packages. However, note that some non-free (in terms of beer) packages are missing in the FTP-install. You can start without them. Here's the recipe: (I'm not at my SuSE box here, so I cook from memory, small recipe variations are possible) - Download SuSE 9.0 boot-CD iso-image (~22 MB). Use your Powerbook. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.0/boot/boot.iso Maybe you want to use an italian mirror, like: ftp://ftp.uniroma2.it/Linux/suse/pub/suse/i386/9.0/boot/boot.iso ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/distributions/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.0/ boot.iso - Burn that iso image on CD. You 'Disk Utility' in /Applications/Utilities. Look for something like 'Burn ISO image'. - Boot your PC from this CD. At the boot prompt choose 'Manual Installation' - Find out which Ethernet-card you have and load the appropriate kernel module. - Start Installation and choose FTP install. (I assume you can use DHCP, which makes things easier) - enter 'ftp.uniroma2.it' as mirror and 'Linux/suse/pub/suse/i386/9.0' as folder or 'ftp.unina.it' as mirror and 'pub/linux/distributions/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.0' as folder - If everything works fine, you'll end up with a dialog, where you can change your install settings, like Timezone, mouse, software, partitioning, ... - You probably would like to change the partitions of your disk(s) (remove NTFS, etc...) - After installation is ready, you can apply updates/patches. Select as source the same as for installing, but drop the /i386/9.0 from the URL, e.g. 'ftp://ftp.uniroma2.it/Linux/suse/pub/suse' - You can install/remove additional software in yast2 -> software install. ----------------------------- I hope this quick guideline helps and hopefully it's more or less correct. good luck Markus
On 26/feb/04, at 10:05, Markus Haiml wrote:
Hi Ermanno,
Hey. It's not me. I answerd an almost one week old unanswered message. Since I have OS X (and I manage an 8.0 SuSE linux) I gave the original mailer an advice. That's all.
I am ready to delete my windows 2000 partition on my desktop and go full blown linux on that machine.
I plan to go with the FTP install. How can I make sure I get the latest distro with the latest KDE and Gnome Desktops and all the security patches.
I am not completely sure, what exactly you are looking for. Let's assume, you want to use OS X on your PB and maybe additional debain stuff via Fink. That makes perfectly sense :-)
[the rest dosen't ;-) - snip]
Here's the recipe: (I'm not at my SuSE box here, so I cook from memory, small recipe variations are possible)
- Download SuSE 9.0 boot-CD iso-image (~22 MB). Use your Powerbook. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.0/boot/boot.iso Maybe you want to use an italian mirror, like: ftp://ftp.uniroma2.it/Linux/suse/pub/suse/i386/9.0/boot/boot.iso ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/distributions/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/suse/ i386/9.0/ boot.iso
Downoad from uniroma2? from unina?? But you have a wonderful, fast, complete ftp server in Zurich (switch.???.ch)! You should have suggested that one, instead of a couple of slow, local ftp server of ours. ;-) uniroma2 is just a few KM from where I am now, and I usually choose switch. [snip]
----------------------------- I hope this quick guideline helps and hopefully it's more or less correct.
good luck Markus
Ciao, Ermanno
Hi Ermanno,
Downoad from uniroma2? from unina?? But you have a wonderful, fast, complete ftp server in Zurich (switch.???.ch)!
You should have suggested that one, instead of a couple of slow, local ftp server of ours. ;-)
uniroma2 is just a few KM from where I am now, and I usually choose switch.
Certainly, I use switch in Zurich. There are also some fast mirrors in Germany. But well, I just guessed from your lnf.infn.it e-mail-address, that you live Roma. That's why I put the Italian SuSE mirrors at the University of Roma and Napoli... I didn't know but assumed a fast connection from University of Roma to National Labs in Roma... Obviously, I assumed wrong. :-O sorry. Ciao, Markus.
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