[opensuse] Question on KDM
Dear listmembers, I am (AFAIK) bound to using KDM rather than i. e. using SDDM because I need two in parallel X11 - sessions running on tty7 and tty8 in my case. The disadvantage right now: because the resolution of my display is quite high (3840x2160) the fonts and the graphics of the login display are *very* small (too small for my old eyes :-)) Anyone having a solution on how to enlarge the size of the KDM login - window? Thank you for looking into this, take care Dieter Jurzitza -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza 76131 Karlsruhe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, In the Message; Subject : [opensuse] Question on KDM Message-ID : <1836730.qlbXp1fJ6b@djunix> Date & Time: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:45:58 +0200 [DJ] == "Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza" <dieter.jurzitza@t-online.de> has written: DJ> Dear listmembers, DJ> I am (AFAIK) bound to using KDM rather than i. e. using SDDM because I need DJ> two in parallel X11 - sessions running on tty7 and tty8 in my case. DJ> The disadvantage right now: because the resolution of my display DJ> is quite high DJ> (3840x2160) the fonts and the graphics of the DJ> login display are DJ> *very* small DJ> (too small for my old eyes :-)) DJ> Anyone having a solution on how to enlarge the size of the KDM DJ> login - window? I'm using the same resolution on Leap 15.1. It's working fine for me. WM is enlightenment 0.21.9. Googling with the keyword 'xrdb .Xresouce' will give you the solution. HTHs, --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dear Nomiya - San, arrigato go sai mas, but I did not find a way to realize any change. Even modifying kdmrc seems to have no impact at all. Will search on and will report my findings later. Maybe enlightenment behaves different in this regard or I did not find the right commands for xrdb to modify the behavior accordingly. Thanks again, best Dieter Jurzitza Am Montag, 30. März 2020, 09:03:28 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya:
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Hello Dieter, Am 3/31/20 um 8:59 AM schrieb Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza:
Dear Nomiya - San, arrigato go sai mas, but I did not find a way to realize any change. Even modifying kdmrc seems to have no impact at all. Will search on and will report my findings later. Maybe enlightenment behaves different in this regard or I did not find the right commands for xrdb to modify the behavior accordingly. Thanks again, best
Which file did you edit? Regards Daniel
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Hello Daniel, I tried to edit /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc, but found meanwhile that suse keeps for unclear reasons /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig - which is sourced, too and seems to override some of the settings in /usr/share/kde4/ config/kdm/kdmrc It has been recommended in the net that one should replace the file in /var/ adm by a link to /dev/null ... Will test soon and report my findings. Thank you for coming back, take care Dieter Am Dienstag, 31. März 2020, 15:35:00 CEST schrieb Daniel Spannbauer:
Hello Dieter,
Am 3/31/20 um 8:59 AM schrieb Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza:
Dear Nomiya - San, arrigato go sai mas, but I did not find a way to realize any change. Even modifying kdmrc seems to have no impact at all. Will search on and will report my findings later. Maybe enlightenment behaves different in this regard or I did not find the right commands for xrdb to modify the behavior accordingly. Thanks again, best
Which file did you edit?
Regards
Daniel
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Am 3/31/20 um 4:04 PM schrieb Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza:
Hello Daniel, I tried to edit /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc, but found meanwhile that suse keeps for unclear reasons /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig - which is sourced, too and seems to override some of the settings in /usr/share/kde4/ config/kdm/kdmrc
It has been recommended in the net that one should replace the file in /var/ adm by a link to /dev/null ... Will test soon and report my findings. Thank you for coming back, take care
The kdmrc is auto-generated to get the settings form /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager into the config. /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/read_sysconfig.sh does this. It generates /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig, which is read by kdm. I don't think that the /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc is read be kdm anymore. For me I've created a own version of read_sysconf. But you have to make sure that you always have a backup of it cause an update will overwrite it. Regards Daniel -- Daniel Spannbauer Systemadministration marco Systemanalyse und Entwicklung GmbH Tel +49 8333 9233-27 Fax -11 Rechbergstr. 4-6, D 87727 Babenhausen Mobil +49 171 4033220 http://www.marco.de/ Email ds@marco.de Geschäftsführer Martin Reuter HRB 171775 Amtsgericht München -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Daniel, this clarifies a lot and really helps ... but in this case they should have moved kdmrc away entirely IMHO. Why keep a config file that is not sourced any more, leading people in the totally wrong direction, make them wonder why nothing happens in case they modify it ..... No, I need not understand all and everything. Thanks! Dieter Am Mittwoch, 1. April 2020, 09:00:43 CEST schrieb Daniel Spannbauer:
Am 3/31/20 um 4:04 PM schrieb Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza:
Hello Daniel, I tried to edit /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc, but found meanwhile that suse keeps for unclear reasons /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig - which is sourced, too and seems to override some of the settings in /usr/share/kde4/ config/kdm/kdmrc
It has been recommended in the net that one should replace the file in /var/ adm by a link to /dev/null ... Will test soon and report my findings. Thank you for coming back, take care
The kdmrc is auto-generated to get the settings form /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager into the config.
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/read_sysconfig.sh does this. It generates /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig, which is read by kdm.
I don't think that the /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc is read be kdm anymore.
For me I've created a own version of read_sysconf. But you have to make sure that you always have a backup of it cause an update will overwrite it.
Regards
Daniel
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Hello Daniel, but stop : the kdmrc - file is definitively sourced as well. I am using two parallel kdm - login screens (this is why I use kdm at all), one for me, one for my wife. tty7 and tty8, respectively. That configuration needs to be in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc - so, it is sourced, I have to put it there to make that work. Take care Dieter Am Mittwoch, 1. April 2020, 09:00:43 CEST schrieb Daniel Spannbauer:
Am 3/31/20 um 4:04 PM schrieb Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza:
Hello Daniel, I tried to edit /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc, but found meanwhile that suse keeps for unclear reasons /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig - which is sourced, too and seems to override some of the settings in /usr/share/kde4/ config/kdm/kdmrc
It has been recommended in the net that one should replace the file in /var/ adm by a link to /dev/null ... Will test soon and report my findings. Thank you for coming back, take care
The kdmrc is auto-generated to get the settings form /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager into the config.
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/read_sysconfig.sh does this. It generates /var/adm/kdm/kdmrc.sysconfig, which is read by kdm.
I don't think that the /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc is read be kdm anymore.
For me I've created a own version of read_sysconf. But you have to make sure that you always have a backup of it cause an update will overwrite it.
Regards
Daniel
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Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [opensuse] Question on KDM Message-ID : <6641525.GSibq1DlCP@djunix> Date & Time: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:59:23 +0200 [DJ] == "Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza" <dieter.jurzitza@t-online.de> has written: DJ> Dear Nomiya - San, DJ> arrigato go sai mas, but I did not find a way to realize any DJ> change. Even modifying kdmrc seems to have no impact at all. Will DJ> search on and will report my findings later. Maybe enlightenment DJ> behaves different in this regard or I did not find the right DJ> commands for xrdb to modify the behavior accordingly. Why do you know Japanese? I met young people who could speak Japanese on several Mailing lists. They said, they are motivated by seeing Japanese Anime. You wrote 'for old eyes',.... But, maybe you are younger than me. Anyway, I'm sorry, I misunderstood your environment. The solution for your use, maight be setting the lower resolution. In my case, $ xrandr gives; 3840x2160 60.00*+ 29.98 2560x1440 59.95 1920x1200 59.88 1920x1080 60.00 59.94 29.97 1680x1050 59.95 1600x1200 60.00 1600x900 60.00 1280x1024 60.02 1280x800 59.81 1280x720 60.00 59.94 1024x768 60.00 800x600 60.32 720x480 59.94 640x480 59.94 59.93 For these, $ xrandr -s 2560x1440 gives larger fonts look. If this is the solution for you, write this setting in .bashrc. Regards, --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dear listmembers, dear Nomiya-San, first of all: my Japanese capabilities are _very_ limited. But I knew from your name that you are Japanese so I thougt it to be polite to say "thank you" in Japanese language. That's all about it. The resolution of the "regular" kdm login theme is simply not appropriate for highres monitors. Therefore you have to adjust. Because my monitor comes with 3840x2560 pixels I simply scaled up by a factor of two. Further explanation below. After switching to kdm kdm could not find Elarun.png because openSUSE doesn't distribute it (any more?). In this regard it can be stated that kdm as distributed with leap 15.1 is broken. So you have to download it from the internet (just search for "Elarun" and you will find it quickly). Put this file into /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/elarun/Elarun.png Secondly: there is no need at all to fiddle around with kdmrc or the like. The only thing of importance is found in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/elarun 1.) move this directory to a new name, say /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/elarun.lowres 2.) open all *.png - files in it with gimp and scale them up by a factor of two in x- and y- direction except Elarun.png. Save those files into a new directory called /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/elarun.highres Elarun.png can simply be copied over to this directory and need not be scaled. 3.) copy all not - png - files from /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/elarun.lowres to /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/elarun.highres 4.) make a softlink from elarun.highres to elarun 5.) Edit elarun.xml, see a patch below I used against my elarun.xml. You can either copy it and patch your file with that patch or you can manually adjust the sizes in your file accordingly. 6.) if you like to have a different background image, simply pick one you like, put it into the above mentioned elarun - directory and put it's name instead of "Elarun.png" into "elarun.xml". Then you will be fine. jpg - files work as well Thank you for looking into this, I will open a bug - report in regards to "Elarun.png", this at least should be part of the distribution. Best Dieter Jurzitza --- elarun.xml.original 2020-03-31 20:59:31.390831095 +0200 +++ elarun.xml 2020-03-31 20:12:06.563755680 +0200 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ <!DOCTYPE greeter SYSTEM "greeter.dtd"> <greeter id="theme"> - <style font="Sans 12" window-text-color="#bfd9ff" + <style font="Sans 24" window-text-color="#bfd9ff" base-color="#bfd9ff" alternate-base-color="#666666" text-color="#0b678c" disabled-text-color="#333333" base-alpha="0" @@ -12,13 +12,13 @@ frame="false" /> <item type="pixmap" id="background" background="true"> - <normal wallpaper="Elarun" scalemode="crop"/> - <pos x="0" y="0" width="100%" height="100%"/> + <normal file="Elarun.png"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="100%" height="100%"/> </item> <item type="pixmap" id="system-session"> <normal file="rectangle.png"/> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="416" height="262"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="832" height="524"/> </item> <!-- <item type="pixmap" id="branding-logo" background="true"> @@ -28,12 +28,12 @@ --> <item type="pixmap" id="system-session"> <normal alpha="0.1" file="rectangle_overlay.png"/> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="416" height="262"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="832" height="524"/> <fixed> <item type="label" id="welcome"> - <pos anchor="nw" x="20" y="20"/> - <normal alpha="0.75" font="Sans Bold 14" color="#0b678c"/> + <pos anchor="nw" x="40" y="40"/> + <normal alpha="0.75" font="Sans Bold 28" color="#0b678c"/> <text>%h</text> </item> </fixed> @@ -41,14 +41,14 @@ <item type="rect"> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="200" height="100"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="400" height="200"/> <box orientation="vertical" spacing="10" homogeneous="true"> <item type="rect" id="user-field"> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="200" height="box"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="400" height="box"/> <fixed> <item type="pixmap"> - <pos anchor="w" x="0" y="50%"/> + <pos anchor="w" x="-5%" y="50%"/> <normal file="user_icon.png"/> </item> @@ -60,16 +60,16 @@ </item> <item type="entry" id="user-entry"> - <pos anchor="w" x="49" y="50%" width="140" height="20"/> + <pos anchor="w" x="49" y="50%" width="280" height="40"/> </item> </fixed> </item> <item type="rect" id="user-field2"> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="200" height="box"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="400" height="box"/> <fixed> <item type="pixmap" button="true"> - <pos anchor="w" x="0%" y="50%"/> + <pos anchor="w" x="-5%" y="50%"/> <normal file="lock.png"/> </item> @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ </item> <item type="entry" id="pw-entry"> - <pos anchor="w" x="49" y="50%" width="140" height="20"/> + <pos anchor="w" x="49" y="50%" width="280" height="40"/> </item> </fixed> </item> @@ -89,11 +89,11 @@ </item> <item type="rect" id="system-session"> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="416" height="262"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="832" height="524"/> <fixed> <item type="label"> - <pos anchor="se" x="-15" y="-20"/> - <normal font="Sans Bold 8" color="#0b678c"/> + <pos anchor="se" x="-30" y="-40"/> + <normal font="Sans Bold 16" color="#0b678c"/> <text>%c</text> </item> @@ -101,21 +101,21 @@ <normal alpha="0.8" file="session_normal.png"/> <prelight file="session_normal.png"/> <active file="session_normal.png"/> - <pos anchor="sw" x="22" y="-20"/> + <pos anchor="sw" x="44" y="-40"/> </item> <item type="pixmap" id="system_button" button="true"> <normal alpha="0.8" file="system_normal.png"/> <prelight file="system_normal.png"/> <active file="system_normal.png"/> - <pos anchor="sw" x="50" y="-20"/> + <pos anchor="sw" x="100" y="-40"/> </item> <item type="pixmap" id="login_button" button="true"> <normal file="login_normal.png"/> <prelight file="login_active.png"/> <active file="login_active.png"/> - <pos anchor="e" x="-20" y="50%"/> + <pos anchor="e" x="-40" y="50%"/> </item> </fixed> </item> @@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" width="416" height="262"/> <fixed> <item type="label" id="mesage"> - <normal color="#0b678c" font="Sans Bold 10"/> + <normal color="#0b678c" font="Sans Bold 20"/> <pos anchor="s" x="50%" y="80%"/> <stock type="caps-lock-warning"/> </item> @@ -132,16 +132,16 @@ </item> <item type="rect" id="pam-error-paceholder"> - <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="98%" widht="615" height="200"/> + <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="98%" widht="1230" height="400"/> <item type="label" id="dummy1"> - <normal alpha="0" color="#0b678c" font="Sans Bold 10"/
+ <normal alpha="0" color="#0b678c" font="Sans Bold 20"/
<!-- </text> --> </item> <item type="label" id="pam-error"> <pos anchor="c" x="50%" y="50%" expand="true"/> - <normal alpha="0" color="#0b678c" font="Sans Bold 10"/
+ <normal alpha="0" color="#0b678c" font="Sans Bold 20"/
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Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza composed on 2020-03-31 21:02 (UTC+0200):
Secondly: there is no need at all to fiddle around with kdmrc or the like.
Been making fonts user friendly via kdmrc ever since discovering I could, probably at least 15 years, easier than rebuilding images or locating theming components. And, without any theming, it's a nice compact interface, with all the click targets within comfortably short distances of each other instead of sprawled all over a mostly empty screen. Configurability is very, very nice. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dear Felix, I see - my comment was somewhat misleading. I did not want to express that modifying kdmrc is inappropriate or difficult by any means. I only had had wanted to express that - for this specific issue - it is simply not necessary. And that there is a bug in the openSUSE kdm configuration IMHO. Take care Dieter Am Mittwoch, 1. April 2020, 00:33:35 CEST schrieb Felix Miata:
Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza composed on 2020-03-31 21:02 (UTC+0200):
Secondly: there is no need at all to fiddle around with kdmrc or the like.
Been making fonts user friendly via kdmrc ever since discovering I could,
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Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza composed on 2020-03-30 08:45 (UTC+0200):
I am (AFAIK) bound to using KDM rather than i. e. using SDDM because I need two in parallel X11 - sessions running on tty7 and tty8 in my case. The disadvantage right now: because the resolution of my display is quite high (3840x2160) the fonts and the graphics of the login display are *very* small (too small for my old eyes :-)) Anyone having a solution on how to enlarge the size of the KDM login - window?
Change several settings in kdmrc. These are several I use that should accommodate your wishes: GreetFont=sans-serif,24,5,0,50,0 StdFont=sans-serif,16,5,0,50,0 FailFont=sans-serif,18,5,0,75,0 UseTheme=false Theme= You may want StdFont and/or FailFont to be bigger still, maybe 18 & 18 or 20 or even more. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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