[opensuse] Re: fonts look different ...
On 2007/01/29 16:30 (GMT+0100) Istvan Gabor apparently typed:
I have a problem that might be related to the fontconfig system. I have a SUSE 10.1 and a SUSE 10.2 installation on the same hardware (on different partitions). I also have installed the same version of NVIDIA drivers. I've set the display resolution to the same as well (96 DPI). Despite of this the Arial font looks different on the two systems. The differences between SUSE 10.1 and 10.2 that might be related to this are: xorg-x11 - different versions fontconfig packages - different versions 10.1 has fontconfig-2.3.94-18.4, 10.2 has fontconfig-2.4.1-19.
Please help me how I could trace why the same fonts look different and how to mek them look the same.
I attach two images that show how the fonts look on 10.1 and 10.2.
You're seeing more than one problem, none of which I believe have anything to do with fontconfig (but I may be wrong). 1-SUSE 10.2 KDE has broken anti-alias configuration. It defaults to "full", but when set to "full" is actually off/none. Go into your personal settings and change your anti-alias setting to medium or slight according to your own preferences. I use medium. 2-The difference in font sizes in the screenshots show clearly that 10.1 and 10.2 are running different DPI. Since I don't use NVidia drivers I can't say exactly how to fix it, but it may be that UseEDIDdpi is being used in the latter and not the former or vice versa. http://www.mozilla.org/unix/dpi.html might be helpful in fine-tuning your DPI. It looks like your 2nd screenshot is the 10.2 one, probably still running 84 DPI like you wrote in your other thread, while the first is at the higher DPI of 96 as you set it. 16pt at 84 DPI is 18.67px, while 16pt at 96 DPI is 21.33px. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-helvetica.html might be helpful in doing comparisons. My 10.2 fonts are good, as were my 10.1 fonts, and their sizes haven't changed. I'm using generic Intel & Matrox drivers on various 10.1 & 10.2 systems. -- "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 11:25 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2007/01/29 16:30 (GMT+0100) Istvan Gabor apparently typed:
I have a problem that might be related to the fontconfig system. I have a SUSE 10.1 and a SUSE 10.2 installation on the same hardware (on different partitions). I also have installed the same version of NVIDIA drivers. I've set the display resolution to the same as well (96 DPI). Despite of this the Arial font looks different on the two systems. The differences between SUSE 10.1 and 10.2 that might be related to this are: xorg-x11 - different versions fontconfig packages - different versions 10.1 has fontconfig-2.3.94-18.4, 10.2 has fontconfig-2.4.1-19.
Please help me how I could trace why the same fonts look different and how to mek them look the same.
I attach two images that show how the fonts look on 10.1 and 10.2.
You're seeing more than one problem, none of which I believe have anything to do with fontconfig (but I may be wrong).
1-SUSE 10.2 KDE has broken anti-alias configuration. It defaults to "full", but when set to "full" is actually off/none. Go into your personal settings and change your anti-alias setting to medium or slight according to your own preferences. I use medium.
2-The difference in font sizes in the screenshots show clearly that 10.1 and 10.2 are running different DPI. Since I don't use NVidia drivers I can't say exactly how to fix it, but it may be that UseEDIDdpi is being used in the latter and not the former or vice versa. http://www.mozilla.org/unix/dpi.html might be helpful in fine-tuning your DPI.
It looks like your 2nd screenshot is the 10.2 one, probably still running 84 DPI like you wrote in your other thread, while the first is at the higher DPI of 96 as you set it. 16pt at 84 DPI is 18.67px, while 16pt at 96 DPI is 21.33px. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-helvetica.html might be helpful in doing comparisons.
My 10.2 fonts are good, as were my 10.1 fonts, and their sizes haven't changed. I'm using generic Intel & Matrox drivers on various 10.1 & 10.2 systems. -- "
Except for OpenOffice fonts, its been "broken" since 10.1 (9.2,9.3,10.0 looked fine). (This is with anti-aliasing switched off, as it should be on all LCD screens, IMHO) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata <mrmazda@ij.net> さんは書きました:
"full", but when set to "full" is actually off/none. Go into your personal settings and change your anti-alias setting to medium or slight according to your own preferences. I use medium.
No, that's not true. See my comments in http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227498 -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian@suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。 I � Unicode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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