[opensuse] Evolution, IMAP and filtering
Evolution 2.12.0 Is it safe to assume that Evolution filters do not apply to any imap accounts? None of my filters work, and I can only assume it is because I use imap. Or is this bugged? -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 15:19 -0600, Bryen wrote:
Evolution 2.12.0
Is it safe to assume that Evolution filters do not apply to any imap accounts? None of my filters work, and I can only assume it is because I use imap. Or is this bugged?
Can't say. I would think imap filtering through a mail client is problematic. What if you use two mail clients with different settings? The messages are stored in one place. Should there be two views? I have decided to use procmail to filter mail when it arrives. For me it manages courier imap. I think it will do others. This way, you do not need to set filters for each client. procmail does it's thing first and then all imap mail clients see filtered message.
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On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 16:43 -0500, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 15:19 -0600, Bryen wrote:
Evolution 2.12.0
Is it safe to assume that Evolution filters do not apply to any imap accounts? None of my filters work, and I can only assume it is because I use imap. Or is this bugged?
Can't say. I would think imap filtering through a mail client is problematic. What if you use two mail clients with different settings? The messages are stored in one place. Should there be two views?
I have decided to use procmail to filter mail when it arrives. For me it manages courier imap. I think it will do others. This way, you do not need to set filters for each client. procmail does it's thing first and then all imap mail clients see filtered message.
-- ---Bryen---
-- Roger Oberholtzer
Well, in my case, I'm trying to set colors to certain email messages. Doesn't seem to be working. Another filter I set was to move a message into another folder. That didn't work either. :-( -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
Well, in my case, I'm trying to set colors to certain email messages. Doesn't seem to be working. Another filter I set was to move a message into another folder. That didn't work either. :-(
It depends a bit on the imap server. Cyrus Imap for example uses SIEVE to filter messages. So your Client would need to a) have access to the sieve port (not bound to localhost) b) understand and implement the sieve protocol A workaround for Cyrus would be to use the avelsieve or smartsieve plugins in Squirrelmail. About color coding for messages, the only way would be to mark the message with user attributes and then depend on the client to display the message according to the user attribute. It is possible to filter the incoming messages with procmail (a bit more cumbersome in case of Cyrus Imap, but still possible), but color coding might need some scripting effort. I don't think any of these rules can be created on the client. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 00:38 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:
I don't think any of these rules can be created on the client.
For procmail, at least, the rules are on the imap server, set up in each user's login account. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bryen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 16:43 -0500, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Evolution 2.12.0
Is it safe to assume that Evolution filters do not apply to any imap accounts? None of my filters work, and I can only assume it is because I use imap. Or is this bugged? Can't say. I would think imap filtering through a mail client is
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 15:19 -0600, Bryen wrote: problematic. What if you use two mail clients with different settings? The messages are stored in one place. Should there be two views?
I have decided to use procmail to filter mail when it arrives. For me it manages courier imap. I think it will do others. This way, you do not need to set filters for each client. procmail does it's thing first and then all imap mail clients see filtered message.
-- ---Bryen---
-- Roger Oberholtzer
Well, in my case, I'm trying to set colors to certain email messages. Doesn't seem to be working. Another filter I set was to move a message into another folder. That didn't work either. :-(
I have not used mail filters for this purpose, but I have used mail filters on Evolution to move incoming mail to folders on IMAP accounts without trouble. Evolution (like Thunderbird, and I suspect KMail ) merely moves the message from one folder to another, and this does not normally need any special knowledge of the mail server characteristics (nor should it). Evolution does mark the message as deleted in the source folder which requires that you explicitly purge the folder concerned. If this is a mail rule option and it is not working this sounds like either an Evolution bug or a bug in the mail rule. The downside is that the filtering is only applied when the mail client is active, and if you clients with different rule sets results can be a bit unexpected (especially with multiple sessions). (I do use procmail for spam filtering and for a couple of special bits of mail re-direction, but not for folder based sorting as it is more suited to more a static configurations and I find I have to modify folder rules a couple of times a week). - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOsxQasN0sSnLmgIRAhDDAJ90pZv7DhMCfCYSNrCXAwJ2BGCwxQCg9mKY cII9uup4Gzz2QT5JDNv3fak= =ojAH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 10:22 +0000, G T Smith wrote:
(I do use procmail for spam filtering and for a couple of special bits of mail re-direction, but not for folder based sorting as it is more suited to more a static configurations and I find I have to modify folder rules a couple of times a week).
OOC, how are you using procmail for spam filtering? I don't ever seem to get that to work correctly. Perhaps I should try again. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 10:22 +0000, G T Smith wrote:
(I do use procmail for spam filtering and for a couple of special bits of mail re-direction, but not for folder based sorting as it is more suited to more a static configurations and I find I have to modify folder rules a couple of times a week).
OOC, how are you using procmail for spam filtering? I don't ever seem to get that to work correctly. Perhaps I should try again.
Well this is the spamassassin related extract from my .procmailrc ======================================================= :0fw: spamc.lock * < 256000 | spamc # Mails with a score of 15 or higher are almost certainly spam (with 0.05% # false positives according to rules/STATISTICS.txt). Let's put them in a # different mbox. (This one is optional.) :0: * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* .almost-certainly-spam/ # All mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set threshold) # is moved to "probably-spam". :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes .probably-spam/ ================================================================== I am using courier-imap with a maildir based setup which explains the slightly eccentric folder naming :-) If I remember correctly (years since I last look at this bit) this is from the spamassassin notes. I have training script on a user account based cron job which trains and cleans these folders out on a weekly basis... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOwxIasN0sSnLmgIRAobqAJ9+nrbMEQueS6gZ3I+KD3VNvM6XhACfXiSF y+Bzv8Jtm/xX5L8wR4kTsLw= =FPhh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
Well, in my case, I'm trying to set colors to certain email messages. Doesn't seem to be working. Another filter I set was to move a message into another folder. That didn't work either. :-(
Both of those work with Seamonkey & IMAP -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
Evolution 2.12.0
Is it safe to assume that Evolution filters do not apply to any imap accounts? None of my filters work, and I can only assume it is because I use imap. Or is this bugged?
I use filters on Seamonkey & IMAP, so it's not an IMAP issue. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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