XP and 8.2 Dual Boot, want to install 9.2, any gotcdhas?
Mates, I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is to just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install and put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is there anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems doing this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankin-bertin.com --
david rankin wrote:
Mates,
I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is to just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install and put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is there anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems doing this? I updated my daughter's laptops from a dual boot XP home/9.1 to 9.2. Just tell Yast to update installed system. It worked quite smooth for that update. You might want to back up for a jump from 8.2 to 9.2, as so much has changed. YMMV -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
If you don't mind losing whatever data you had in 8.2, I would recommend the fresh install. The only thing you need to worry about is making sure you don't accidentally choose to overwrite your windows partition. Other than that, you should be fine.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 david rankin wrote: | Mates, | | I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and | install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is to | just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install and | put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is there | anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems doing this? David, It will ask at the beginning if you want to update an existing Linux installation or overwrite it and perform a new installation. I would not expect to experience a smooth 8.2 to 9.2 update. There were significant changes from 8.2 to 9.0 and, again, from 9.0 to 9.1. I agree that a "fresh" installation, from scratch, is probably the best way to go. BTW, when you select "new" installation, it will evaluate your existing Linux partitions and recommend a partitioning scheme. If you don't like it, you can edit it several times before anything is ever committed to disk. I don't use XP, but my understanding is that the default will be to mount the NTFS partition(s) read-only, anyway. HTH & regards, - - Carl - -- _____________________________________________________ C. E. Hartung Business Development & Support Services http://www.cehartung.com/ carlh@cehartung.com Dover Foxcroft, Maine, USA 04426 PGP: 0x68396713 Reg. Linux User #350527 http://counter.li.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFB++UYusxgymg5ZxMRAsZMAJ0VUWC01+E4c1piiZ7fLYq9AcEAmgCaA34V htrfnqGNBcrIZZVoB39b/gM= =FTG/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05
david rankin wrote: | Mates, | | I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and | install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is to | just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install and | put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is there | anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems doing this?
David,
It will ask at the beginning if you want to update an existing Linux installation or overwrite it and perform a new installation.
I would not expect to experience a smooth 8.2 to 9.2 update. There were significant changes from 8.2 to 9.0 and, again, from 9.0 to 9.1. I agree that a "fresh" installation, from scratch, is probably the best way to go.
BTW, when you select "new" installation, it will evaluate your existing Linux partitions and recommend a partitioning scheme. If you don't like it, you can edit it several times before anything is ever committed to disk.
I don't use XP, but my understanding is that the default will be to mount the NTFS partition(s) read-only, anyway.
I'll let you know how it goes, but the plan is to overwrite 8.2. There is nothing there that I need. Thanks to all for your help. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankin-bertin.com --
As promised, I'm reporting back on the install of 9.2 that replaced 8.2 on my dual boot XP/SuSE box. The install went flawlessly. I used the 'new installation' option with custom package selection. All hardware on the MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR was recognized and configured properly. Even the liteon CDRW and Sony DVDRW were configured. The only glitch is the display resolution. I want 1600x1200. But SaX2 gives me 1600x1206 and the desktop is beyond the screen (like virtually). If I move the mouse to the top of the screen, the screen scrolls to show me the rest of it. (I still haven't figured out where to turn that off) 1280x1024 works fine. A shocker was the size of the fonts! Wow, I never knew 10 pt. San Serif could look so huge (like it was 1 inch tall). Setting all to 8 pt. has helped. That's pretty much all. Fantastically simple install. If anybody has any suggestions on the 1600x1200 issue, I would welcome them. On Saturday 29 January 2005 14:04, david rankin wrote:
david rankin wrote: | Mates, | | I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and | install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is | to just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install | and put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is | there anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems | doing this?
David,
It will ask at the beginning if you want to update an existing Linux installation or overwrite it and perform a new installation.
I would not expect to experience a smooth 8.2 to 9.2 update. There were significant changes from 8.2 to 9.0 and, again, from 9.0 to 9.1. I agree that a "fresh" installation, from scratch, is probably the best way to go.
BTW, when you select "new" installation, it will evaluate your existing Linux partitions and recommend a partitioning scheme. If you don't like it, you can edit it several times before anything is ever committed to disk.
I don't use XP, but my understanding is that the default will be to mount the NTFS partition(s) read-only, anyway.
I'll let you know how it goes, but the plan is to overwrite 8.2. There is nothing there that I need. Thanks to all for your help.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankin-bertin.com --
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 www.rbpllc.om
Just a thought, Have you configured the monitor? I had similar probs and found that my monitor was identified incorrectly. I fixed that and my problems went away. Chris -----Original Message----- From: David Rankin [mailto:drankin@cox-internet.com] Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 6:20 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] XP and 8.2 Dual Boot, want to install 9.2, any gotcdhas? [DONE] As promised, I'm reporting back on the install of 9.2 that replaced 8.2 on my dual boot XP/SuSE box. The install went flawlessly. I used the 'new installation' option with custom package selection. All hardware on the MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR was recognized and configured properly. Even the liteon CDRW and Sony DVDRW were configured. The only glitch is the display resolution. I want 1600x1200. But SaX2 gives me 1600x1206 and the desktop is beyond the screen (like virtually). If I move the mouse to the top of the screen, the screen scrolls to show me the rest of it. (I still haven't figured out where to turn that off) 1280x1024 works fine. A shocker was the size of the fonts! Wow, I never knew 10 pt. San Serif could look so huge (like it was 1 inch tall). Setting all to 8 pt. has helped. That's pretty much all. Fantastically simple install. If anybody has any suggestions on the 1600x1200 issue, I would welcome them. On Saturday 29 January 2005 14:04, david rankin wrote:
david rankin wrote: | Mates, | | I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and | install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is | to just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install | and put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is | there anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems | doing this?
David,
It will ask at the beginning if you want to update an existing Linux installation or overwrite it and perform a new installation.
I would not expect to experience a smooth 8.2 to 9.2 update. There were significant changes from 8.2 to 9.0 and, again, from 9.0 to 9.1. I agree that a "fresh" installation, from scratch, is probably the best way to go.
BTW, when you select "new" installation, it will evaluate your existing Linux partitions and recommend a partitioning scheme. If you don't like it, you can edit it several times before anything is ever committed to disk.
I don't use XP, but my understanding is that the default will be to mount the NTFS partition(s) read-only, anyway.
I'll let you know how it goes, but the plan is to overwrite 8.2. There is nothing there that I need. Thanks to all for your help.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankin-bertin.com --
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 www.rbpllc.om -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
[I'm getting this back into the main thread.] Chris wrote:
Just a thought, Have you configured the monitor? I had similar probs and found that my monitor was identified incorrectly. I fixed that and my problems went away. Chris
To which David Rankin replied:
Message-ID: <004101c50736$d9cc23f0$5f06a8c0@rankinp35> From: "david rankin" <drankin@cox-internet.com> To: "Suse Linux" <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:47:40 -0600
Well,
I have the Samsung 1100df. Suse only has the 1100plus. The only difference is the horizontal frequency 30 - 121 on the df, 28 - 115 on the plus. I have changed that, but I still have problems. SaX2 seems to freeze when adjusting position and frequency. It works for one or two adjustments, but then quits responding. I'm now looking at the kernel parameters that grub passes. Some posts suggest that the default grub menu.lst could be the problem.
I doubt that is the problem at all. To check, boot into runlevel 3, log in and run startx. If the problem persists, then grub's setup is not at fault (though it is possible that grub's runlevel 5 settings inherited an incorrect setting from the display configuration). As well, you could run xdpyinfo in both runlevels, 3 and 5, to see if the two configurations are the same. I suspect they will be. The appropriate grep filter to extract only the relevant screen geometry is in my previous message in this thread.
Chris wrote:
Just a thought, Have you configured the monitor? I had similar probs and found that my monitor was identified incorrectly. I fixed that and my problems went away. Chris
To which David Rankin replied:
Message-ID: <004101c50736$d9cc23f0$5f06a8c0@rankinp35> From: "david rankin" <drankin@cox-internet.com> To: "Suse Linux" <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:47:40 -0600
Well,
I have the Samsung 1100df. Suse only has the 1100plus. The only difference is the horizontal frequency 30 - 121 on the df, 28 - 115 on the plus. I have changed that, but I still have problems. SaX2 seems to freeze when adjusting position and frequency. It works for one or two adjustments, but then quits responding. I'm now looking at the kernel parameters that grub passes. Some posts suggest that the default grub menu.lst could be the problem.
I doubt that is the problem at all. To check, boot into runlevel 3, log in and run startx. If the problem persists, then grub's setup is not at fault (though it is possible that grub's runlevel 5 settings inherited an incorrect setting from the display configuration). As well, you could run xdpyinfo in both runlevels, 3 and 5, to see if the two configurations are the same. I suspect they will be. The appropriate grep filter to extract only the relevant screen geometry is in my previous message in this thread.
The saga continues... I have corrected the geometry problems which required editing the dimension setting in sax2. Now the problem is that sax2 will not save the position changes to XF86Config or xorg.conf. Don't know why? I used xvidtune to dump a modeline and I will just edit xorg.conf manually and try that. I still can't figure out why sax2 isn't writing the information. The xorg.conf files show that they are modified by sax2, but no modeline is ever saved. We are making progress. Albeit slowly.......
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David Rankin wrote: <snip> | The only glitch is the display resolution. I want 1600x1200. But SaX2 gives | me 1600x1206 and the desktop is beyond the screen (like virtually). If I move | the mouse to the top of the screen, the screen scrolls to show me the rest of | it. (I still haven't figured out where to turn that off) 1280x1024 works | fine. <snip> Hi David, It's great your installation went so well. The only thing I can recommend on your 'virtual desktop size' issue is to go back into SaX2 and cross-check all your settings against the specs in your hardware manuals. I've seen mistakes in the database before that I've had to override in 'expert' mode. regards, - - Carl - -- ____________________________________________________________________ C. E. Hartung Business Development & Support Services http://www.cehartung.com/ carlh@cehartung.com Dover Foxcroft, Maine, USA Public Key #0x68396713 Reg. Linux User #350527 http://counter.li.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/nNtusxgymg5ZxMRAuvEAJ0SVn7K/cYgv5OFlIA1yAVdP2kRXwCfbIyv xLzIf6O5S7vPH5AwhWw1GXo= =BUt8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
David Rankin wrote:
As promised,
I'm reporting back on the install of 9.2 that replaced 8.2 on my dual boot XP/SuSE box. The install went flawlessly. I used the 'new installation' option with custom package selection. All hardware on the MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR was recognized and configured properly. Even the liteon CDRW and Sony DVDRW were configured.
The only glitch is the display resolution. I want 1600x1200. But SaX2 gives me 1600x1206 and the desktop is beyond the screen (like virtually). If I move the mouse to the top of the screen, the screen scrolls to show me the rest of it. (I still haven't figured out where to turn that off) 1280x1024 works fine.
The xdpyinfo utility will tell you a lot about your current configuration, most of it things you probably didn't want to know ;-) You are interested only in two lines of its output, and here is a grep enhanced regexp filter that will catch both of them: ~> xdpyinfo |grep -E \(dimension\|resolution\) dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (271x201 millimeters) resolution: 96x97 dots per inch Don't forget to "escape" (\) the parentheses and the bar in the grep expression! I've included the output of my system to guide you. The pixels divided by physical size, times 25.4 (to convert mm to in) must be equal to the resolution in dpi, eg. 1024*25.4/271 = 95.976 768*25.4/201 = 97.05 You could try shaving a couple of millimeters off the vertical size in SaX2 -- note this is the physical monitor geometry, not the stuff in the test. First, though, check to make sure the current geometry is actually what your monitor documentation states. These numbers may also be stated in /etc/X11/XFree86Config, in the "Monitor" section, option "DisplaySize". If so, and they do not match your true geometry, you could just edit that file and restart X, instead of having to go into SaX2.
david rankin wrote:
Mates,
I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is to just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install and put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is there anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems doing this?
Back up all the files necessary, and install. You'll have best results, if you go with a "new" install and format the partitions. Hopefully /home is on it's own partition, which you don't have to format. The only problem with this method, is that you'll still have Windows on your computer. ;-)
On 12:42 Sat 29 Jan , david rankin wrote:
Mates,
I have an XP and 8.2 dual boot that I would like to remove 8.2 and install 9.2 in its place. It seems like the easiest way to do this is to just boot from the 9.2 DVD and tell it to wipe out the 8.2 install and put 9.2 in its place. I do not want to destroy the XP install. Is there anything special I need to do? Anybody run into any problems doing this?
If you're using a dialup service you may_have a problem. For more info, suse-linux-e archives: 'Kernel woes' is the thread. If you're not using dialup then you may be okay. FWIW... -- ..."Yogi" CH Namast� Yoga Studio
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