[opensuse] Suse list now blocking my ISP??
Guys,
I tried to send a message to the list earlier and got the following returned:
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On 10/6/2010 10:09 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
To me it looks like the suse list blocked the mail from my isp thinking my isp was sending from a dynamic IP (doubtful - this ISP covers most of the south/south-east US). It would be dynamic if your ISP gives you an IP every time you login. But any way.
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?208.180.40.73 which is the link in your email header of your previous email should shed some light on the subject. But beware the site is dog slow and when I clicked on it, it failed on connecting to the database. I'm thinking your ISP thinks this is spam. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 22:24, Michael S. Dunsaavage
On 10/6/2010 10:09 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
To me it looks like the suse list blocked the mail from my isp thinking my isp was sending from a dynamic IP (doubtful - this ISP covers most of the south/south-east US).
It would be dynamic if your ISP gives you an IP every time you login. But any way.
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?208.180.40.73 which is the link in your email header of your previous email should shed some light on the subject. But beware the site is dog slow and when I clicked on it, it failed on connecting to the database.
I'm thinking your ISP thinks this is spam.
No, SORBS thinks it is spam. SORBS is the group that likes to list IPs and netblocks as spam and then extort the owners for their removal. If your ISP is suddenlink that is the problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/06/2010 09:30 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
No, SORBS thinks it is spam. SORBS is the group that likes to list IPs and netblocks as spam and then extort the owners for their removal. If your ISP is suddenlink that is the problem.
Thanks Andrew, That what it looked like to me. It looks like something is just flakey, because I got 3 bounces with the SORBS message then everything else looks like it is getting through... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/6/2010 11:13 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 10/06/2010 09:30 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
No, SORBS thinks it is spam. SORBS is the group that likes to list IPs and netblocks as spam and then extort the owners for their removal. If your ISP is suddenlink that is the problem.
Thanks Andrew,
That what it looked like to me. It looks like something is just flakey, because I got 3 bounces with the SORBS message then everything else looks like it is getting through...
Several not very remarkable or unusual explanations are possible for that. No mystery. Possible A (most likely): That RBL starts listing your ISP as a source of spam. Your ISP gets a tonne of angry emails and support calls from all of it's massive subscriber base. Your ISP contacts that RBL and gets itself de-listed. Possible B: That RBL starts listing your ISP as a source of spam. Opensuse mail list admin starts getting emails and phone calls from blocked users. Opensuse mail list admin removes that RBL from the list of several RBL's the list or the lists's mail server refers to. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/06/2010 10:42 PM, Brian K. White wrote:
Several not very remarkable or unusual explanations are possible for that. No mystery.
Possible A (most likely): That RBL starts listing your ISP as a source of spam. Your ISP gets a tonne of angry emails and support calls from all of it's massive subscriber base. Your ISP contacts that RBL and gets itself de-listed.
Possible B: That RBL starts listing your ISP as a source of spam. Opensuse mail list admin starts getting emails and phone calls from blocked users. Opensuse mail list admin removes that RBL from the list of several RBL's the list or the lists's mail server refers to.
Thanks bkw, Dunno how it is working, but it looks like one-out-of-three are getting bounced from me to the list. No rhyme or reason. I've send angry mails to my IPS to fix its outboud IP with SORBS and we shall see where we go from here. Might work out good - most don't want to hear anything I say anyway :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 10/6/2010 10:09 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
To me it looks like the suse list blocked the mail from my isp thinking my isp was sending from a dynamic IP (doubtful - this ISP covers most of the south/south-east US). It would be dynamic if your ISP gives you an IP every time you login. But any way.
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?208.180.40.73 which is the link in your email header of your previous email should shed some light on the subject. But beware the site is dog slow and when I clicked on it, it failed on connecting to the database.
When I tried, I got : Software error: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN/SORBS/Captcha.pm line 355, <DATA> line 1. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
To me it looks like the suse list blocked the mail from my isp thinking my isp was sending from a dynamic IP (doubtful - this ISP covers most of the south/south-east US).
Or -- is this something my ISP is blocking??
You got the NDR from your ISP who got the error from the opensuse list server. # host 73.40.180.208.dnsbl.sorbs.net. 73.40.180.208.dnsbl.sorbs.net has address 127.0.0.10 127.0.0.10 = dynamic ip. Which, judging by the whois info for 208.180.40.73, looks about right. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
To me it looks like the suse list blocked the mail from my isp thinking my isp was sending from a dynamic IP (doubtful - this ISP covers most of the south/south-east US).
Or -- is this something my ISP is blocking??
You got the NDR from your ISP who got the error from the opensuse list server.
# host 73.40.180.208.dnsbl.sorbs.net. 73.40.180.208.dnsbl.sorbs.net has address 127.0.0.10
127.0.0.10 = dynamic ip.
Which, judging by the whois info for 208.180.40.73, looks about right.
Nonetheless, something's not quite right at SORBS - I have seen other complaints too. E.g. clearly statis networks listed as dynamic. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/07/2010 08:43 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Nonetheless, something's not quite right at SORBS - I have seen other complaints too. E.g. clearly statis networks listed as dynamic.
Yep, I followed up with suddenlink, they're looking into it. Somebody probably botched a dns entry somewhere..... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
On 10/07/2010 08:43 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Nonetheless, something's not quite right at SORBS - I have seen other complaints too. E.g. clearly statis networks listed as dynamic.
Yep, I followed up with suddenlink, they're looking into it. Somebody probably botched a dns entry somewhere.....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/07/sorbs_cockup/ -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/08/2010 12:52 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
On 10/07/2010 08:43 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Nonetheless, something's not quite right at SORBS - I have seen other complaints too. E.g. clearly statis networks listed as dynamic.
Yep, I followed up with suddenlink, they're looking into it. Somebody probably botched a dns entry somewhere.....
You are good..... :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
On 10/08/2010 12:52 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
On 10/07/2010 08:43 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Nonetheless, something's not quite right at SORBS - I have seen other complaints too. E.g. clearly statis networks listed as dynamic.
Yep, I followed up with suddenlink, they're looking into it. Somebody probably botched a dns entry somewhere.....
You are good..... :p
Haha, more likely just persistent (and professionally interested). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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