[opensuse] Why can't I create partitions? - 15.1 install
I am trying to do a fresh install of 15.1 on a system that had been 15.0. In the process, I'm trying to switch to EFI partitioning. For some reason, I cannot add partitions to the initial EFI partition. There doesn't seem to be a button to add or any other way to do it. I've tried both start with current proposal and existing partitions. Regardless of what I do, I can't move on to create more partitions. If I try the Guided install, after creating the / partition, it moves on to NTP setup, etc.. What am I missing? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Never mind. I found where I can add partitions. On 2019-05-26 1:30 p.m., James Knott wrote:
I am trying to do a fresh install of 15.1 on a system that had been 15.0. In the process, I'm trying to switch to EFI partitioning. For some reason, I cannot add partitions to the initial EFI partition. There doesn't seem to be a button to add or any other way to do it. I've tried both start with current proposal and existing partitions. Regardless of what I do, I can't move on to create more partitions. If I try the Guided install, after creating the / partition, it moves on to NTP setup, etc.. What am I missing?
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Further on this. As mentioned, I want to convert the system to UEFI. When I create partitions, I'm limited to 4 primary partitions. I thought UEFI was supposed to eliminate that barrier. However, even though I create the /boot/efi partition, it still remains. If I don't create that partition, I get an error message about the system might not be able to boot. What is the way out of this? Is it necessary to wipe the disk clean and start from scratch? On 2019-05-26 1:39 p.m., James Knott wrote:
Never mind. I found where I can add partitions.
On 2019-05-26 1:30 p.m., James Knott wrote:
I am trying to do a fresh install of 15.1 on a system that had been 15.0. In the process, I'm trying to switch to EFI partitioning. For some reason, I cannot add partitions to the initial EFI partition. There doesn't seem to be a button to add or any other way to do it. I've tried both start with current proposal and existing partitions. Regardless of what I do, I can't move on to create more partitions. If I try the Guided install, after creating the / partition, it moves on to NTP setup, etc.. What am I missing?
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On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:24:18 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
Further on this. As mentioned, I want to convert the system to UEFI. When I create partitions, I'm limited to 4 primary partitions. I thought UEFI was supposed to eliminate that barrier. However, even though I create the /boot/efi partition, it still remains. If I don't create that partition, I get an error message about the system might not be able to boot. What is the way out of this? Is it necessary to wipe the disk clean and start from scratch?
It's not about UEFI booting, it's about GPT partitioning as opposed to MBR. And yes, you would have to wipe the disk. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/26/2019 02:35 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:24:18 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
Further on this. As mentioned, I want to convert the system to UEFI. When I create partitions, I'm limited to 4 primary partitions. I thought UEFI was supposed to eliminate that barrier. However, even though I create the /boot/efi partition, it still remains. If I don't create that partition, I get an error message about the system might not be able to boot. What is the way out of this? Is it necessary to wipe the disk clean and start from scratch? It's not about UEFI booting, it's about GPT partitioning as opposed to MBR. And yes, you would have to wipe the disk.
That's what I figured. However, this should be better explained during the install. As it is, one might go ahead and wind up with a non-bootable system. A bit more text in that warning message would go a long way to helping someone understand what's happening. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-05-26 2:38 p.m., James Knott wrote:
On 05/26/2019 02:35 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:24:18 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
Further on this. As mentioned, I want to convert the system to UEFI. When I create partitions, I'm limited to 4 primary partitions. I thought UEFI was supposed to eliminate that barrier. However, even though I create the /boot/efi partition, it still remains. If I don't create that partition, I get an error message about the system might not be able to boot. What is the way out of this? Is it necessary to wipe the disk clean and start from scratch? It's not about UEFI booting, it's about GPT partitioning as opposed to MBR. And yes, you would have to wipe the disk.
That's what I figured. However, this should be better explained during the install. As it is, one might go ahead and wind up with a non-bootable system. A bit more text in that warning message would go a long way to helping someone understand what's happening.
One other thing I've noticed is swap can be a maximum of 2 GB. I previously had 8 and until I wiped the disk, I was able to select that size. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [05-26-19 15:08]:
On 2019-05-26 2:38 p.m., James Knott wrote:
On 05/26/2019 02:35 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:24:18 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
Further on this. As mentioned, I want to convert the system to UEFI. When I create partitions, I'm limited to 4 primary partitions. I thought UEFI was supposed to eliminate that barrier. However, even though I create the /boot/efi partition, it still remains. If I don't create that partition, I get an error message about the system might not be able to boot. What is the way out of this? Is it necessary to wipe the disk clean and start from scratch? It's not about UEFI booting, it's about GPT partitioning as opposed to MBR. And yes, you would have to wipe the disk.
That's what I figured. However, this should be better explained during the install. As it is, one might go ahead and wind up with a non-bootable system. A bit more text in that warning message would go a long way to helping someone understand what's happening.
One other thing I've noticed is swap can be a maximum of 2 GB. I previously had 8 and until I wiped the disk, I was able to select that size.
mkswap --help Usage: mkswap [options] device [size] Set up a Linux swap area. Options: -c, --check check bad blocks before creating the swap area -f, --force allow swap size area be larger than device -p, --pagesize SIZE specify page size in bytes -L, --label LABEL specify label -v, --swapversion NUM specify swap-space version number -U, --uuid UUID specify the uuid to use -h, --help display this help -V, --version display version For more details see mkswap(8). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-05-26 3:45 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
One other thing I've noticed is swap can be a maximum of 2 GB. I previously had 8 and until I wiped the disk, I was able to select that size. mkswap --help
Usage: mkswap [options] device [size]
Set up a Linux swap area.
Options: -c, --check check bad blocks before creating the swap area -f, --force allow swap size area be larger than device -p, --pagesize SIZE specify page size in bytes -L, --label LABEL specify label -v, --swapversion NUM specify swap-space version number -U, --uuid UUID specify the uuid to use -h, --help display this help -V, --version display version
For more details see mkswap(8).
I have always used the partitioner during install. This is the first time I've seen it limit the partition size like this. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:48:14 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 2019-05-26 3:45 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
One other thing I've noticed is swap can be a maximum of 2 GB. I previously had 8 and until I wiped the disk, I was able to select that size. mkswap --help
Usage: mkswap [options] device [size]
Set up a Linux swap area.
Options: -c, --check check bad blocks before creating the swap area -f, --force allow swap size area be larger than device -p, --pagesize SIZE specify page size in bytes -L, --label LABEL specify label -v, --swapversion NUM specify swap-space version number -U, --uuid UUID specify the uuid to use -h, --help display this help -V, --version display version
For more details see mkswap(8).
I have always used the partitioner during install. This is the first time I've seen it limit the partition size like this.
I never bother with swap partitions any more. I just use a file for swap space. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Dave Howorth <dave@howorth.org.uk> [05-26-19 18:38]:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:48:14 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 2019-05-26 3:45 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
One other thing I've noticed is swap can be a maximum of 2 GB. I previously had 8 and until I wiped the disk, I was able to select that size. mkswap --help
Usage: mkswap [options] device [size]
Set up a Linux swap area.
Options: -c, --check check bad blocks before creating the swap area -f, --force allow swap size area be larger than device -p, --pagesize SIZE specify page size in bytes -L, --label LABEL specify label -v, --swapversion NUM specify swap-space version number -U, --uuid UUID specify the uuid to use -h, --help display this help -V, --version display version
For more details see mkswap(8).
I have always used the partitioner during install. This is the first time I've seen it limit the partition size like this.
I never bother with swap partitions any more. I just use a file for swap space.
I did that also, but now just add enough ram to not need it :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/05/2019 00.45, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Dave Howorth <> [05-26-19 18:38]:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:48:14 -0400 James Knott <> wrote:
...
I have always used the partitioner during install. This is the first time I've seen it limit the partition size like this.
I never bother with swap partitions any more. I just use a file for swap space.
I did that also, but now just add enough ram to not need it :)
Unless you want to hibernate. I do. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Monday, May 27, 2019 4:58:23 AM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 27/05/2019 00.45, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Dave Howorth <> [05-26-19 18:38]:
I never bother with swap partitions any more. I just use a file for swap space.
I did that also, but now just add enough ram to not need it :)
Unless you want to hibernate. I do.
Could you expand on that a little? How much swap space? I'm guessing it should be larger than ram at least, but by how much? All of ram + all of swap? That doesn't quite compute. I've tried it with 8GB ram, often heavily used, and >4GB swap, but the kernel wakes up "dazed and confused". I suspect it is due to not enough swap. I use suspend to ram all the time and I like it. Wakeup is fast. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/05/2019 19.16, Robert Hardy wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2019 4:58:23 AM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 27/05/2019 00.45, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Dave Howorth <> [05-26-19 18:38]:
I never bother with swap partitions any more. I just use a file for swap space.
I did that also, but now just add enough ram to not need it :)
Unless you want to hibernate. I do.
Could you expand on that a little? How much swap space?
That's the big question! :-)
I'm guessing it should be larger than ram at least, but by how much? All of ram + all of swap? That doesn't quite compute.
An exact answer would be "as much as used RAM + used swap"
I've tried it with 8GB ram, often heavily used, and >4GB swap, but the kernel wakes up "dazed and confused". I suspect it is due to not enough swap.
I use suspend to ram all the time and I like it. Wakeup is fast.
If you have 8 GiB of RAM, but only half is used (and no swap is used), then 4 would suffice. But to be safe, you would dedicate 8 plus a bit to swap. How much that bit? Huh, big question. For example, look at my case: cer@Telcontar:~> free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7,8G 6,2G 254M 352M 1,3G 983M Swap: 23G 1,1G 22G There is 6.2 GiB used plus 1,1GiB of swap alreay used, so a total of 7.3 would do - probably less because the buffers are emptied. But these days, I' end by using 7 GiB of swap. Actually, when I get to that number, hibernation seems to crash, and not for lack of space. My guess is that the devs do not test machines that swap heavily. So, quick answer, at least double that RAM. On small RAM machines, I would use triple. On machines with big RAM, maybe 1.1 of RAM. To be safe and for another reason and just because I have 23 GiB of swap. The other reason is that it is an SSD, to allow rotating of sectors. Maybe doesn't work like that, but I did it that way. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:04 PM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote: [on "how much swap for hibernation"]
An exact answer would be "as much as used RAM + used swap"
[....] Thanks! Currently: rt@sgt:~> free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.4G 4.3G 321M 362M 2.8G 2.5G Swap: 4.2G 500K 4.2G So not enough, and I frequently use more. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Robert Hardy <rhardy702@gmail.com> [05-27-19 14:18]:
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:04 PM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote:
[on "how much swap for hibernation"]
An exact answer would be "as much as used RAM + used swap"
[....]
Thanks!
Currently:
rt@sgt:~> free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.4G 4.3G 321M 362M 2.8G 2.5G Swap: 4.2G 500K 4.2G
So not enough, and I frequently use more.
: ~ # free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 35Gi 9Gi 543Mi 424Mi 24Gi 24Gi Swap: 0B 0B 0B heavy usage editing photos -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/05/2019 20.24, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Robert Hardy <rhardy702@gmail.com> [05-27-19 14:18]:
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:04 PM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote:
[on "how much swap for hibernation"]
An exact answer would be "as much as used RAM + used swap"
[....]
Thanks!
Currently:
rt@sgt:~> free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.4G 4.3G 321M 362M 2.8G 2.5G Swap: 4.2G 500K 4.2G
So not enough, and I frequently use more.
: ~ # free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 35Gi 9Gi 543Mi 424Mi 24Gi 24Gi Swap: 0B 0B 0B
heavy usage editing photos
Doesn't count. You have 35Gi. And you can not hibernate. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [05-28-19 06:28]:
On 27/05/2019 20.24, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Robert Hardy <rhardy702@gmail.com> [05-27-19 14:18]:
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:04 PM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote:
[on "how much swap for hibernation"]
An exact answer would be "as much as used RAM + used swap"
[....]
Thanks!
Currently:
rt@sgt:~> free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.4G 4.3G 321M 362M 2.8G 2.5G Swap: 4.2G 500K 4.2G
So not enough, and I frequently use more.
: ~ # free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 35Gi 9Gi 543Mi 424Mi 24Gi 24Gi Swap: 0B 0B 0B
heavy usage editing photos
Doesn't count. You have 35Gi. And you can not hibernate.
I have no expectation of hibernating my desktop workstation. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/05/2019 20.16, Robert Hardy wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:04 PM CDT Carlos E. R. wrote:
[on "how much swap for hibernation"]
An exact answer would be "as much as used RAM + used swap"
[....]
Thanks!
Currently:
rt@sgt:~> free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.4G 4.3G 321M 362M 2.8G 2.5G Swap: 4.2G 500K 4.2G
So not enough, and I frequently use more.
:)
Right :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 26/05/2019 21.07, James Knott wrote: ...
One other thing I've noticed is swap can be a maximum of 2 GB. I previously had 8 and until I wiped the disk, I was able to select that size.
No, there is no swap size limit. There must be something else impeding it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2019-05-26 4:09 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, there is no swap size limit. There must be something else impeding it.
No doubt, but I have no idea what. At that point the drive was largely unallocated. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 26/05/2019 22.12, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-05-26 4:09 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, there is no swap size limit. There must be something else impeding it.
No doubt, but I have no idea what. At that point the drive was largely unallocated.
Well, post the partition table, with fdisk. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2019-05-26 4:17 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
No doubt, but I have no idea what. At that point the drive was largely unallocated. Well, post the partition table, with fdisk.
It's a bit late for that, as I have completed the installation. However, I'll see if I can resize later. Failing that, I'll just create an additional swap partition. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 26/05/2019 22.20, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-05-26 4:17 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
No doubt, but I have no idea what. At that point the drive was largely unallocated. Well, post the partition table, with fdisk.
It's a bit late for that, as I have completed the installation. However, I'll see if I can resize later. Failing that, I'll just create an additional swap partition.
Well, post the table anyway and I'll try to find out is something looks amiss. Better now than later. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
James Knott composed on 2019-05-26 16:12 (UTC-0400):
On 2019-05-26 4:09 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, there is no swap size limit. There must be something else impeding it.
No doubt, but I have no idea what. At that point the drive was largely unallocated.
PrintScrn will screenshot the installation screen where you find this limitation. You can using Ctrl-Alt-F2 to save the image, then upload for all to see. Gdisk will convert your MBR disk to GPT, as will various other tools. Here's one description of how: <https://www.queryxchange.com/q/1_963178/how-do-i-convert-my-linux-disk-from-mbr-to-gpt-with-uefi/> -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 26/05/2019 20.24, James Knott wrote:
Further on this. As mentioned, I want to convert the system to UEFI. When I create partitions, I'm limited to 4 primary partitions. I thought UEFI was supposed to eliminate that barrier.
No, that's GPT, not UEFI. And yes, you have to initialize the entire disk and all the existing partitions. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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