[opensuse] What I had to do to get wireless communication
I have a new router (D-Link DIR-615) and a new wireless card (Intel 5300agn) in my notebook machine, and was unable to establish communication between them. After several days of puzzlement, I began to entertain the notion that one or both were defective. In an effort to establish which, I connected an external HD in place of that of the notebook machine, installed WinXP on it, and installed the wireless card's driver on it; the card worked properly, so it was no longer suspect. I thought I would them have to devise a troubleshooting scheme for the router, but when I tried to use the wireless card to go online with my own router, it worked perfectly. I had made no changes whatever in any configuration. If someone can explain what made the difference, I will stop believing in poltergeists. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman wrote:
I have a new router (D-Link DIR-615) and a new wireless card (Intel 5300agn) in my notebook machine, and was unable to establish communication between them. After several days of puzzlement, I began to entertain the notion that one or both were defective.
In an effort to establish which, I connected an external HD in place of that of the notebook machine, installed WinXP on it, and installed the wireless card's driver on it; the card worked properly, so it was no longer suspect.
I thought I would them have to devise a troubleshooting scheme for the router, but when I tried to use the wireless card to go online with my own router, it worked perfectly. I had made no changes whatever in any configuration.
If someone can explain what made the difference, I will stop believing in poltergeists.
Charlie Daniels said it best... "There's just some things in this world you just can't explain..." Keep your Ouija board handy :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-12-31 at 19:35 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I have a new router (D-Link DIR-615) and a new wireless card (Intel 5300agn) in my notebook machine, and was unable to establish communication between them. After several days of puzzlement, I began to entertain the notion that one or both were defective.
In an effort to establish which, I connected an external HD in place of that of the notebook machine, installed WinXP on it, and installed the wireless card's driver on it; the card worked properly, so it was no longer suspect.
I thought I would them have to devise a troubleshooting scheme for the router, but when I tried to use the wireless card to go online with my own router, it worked perfectly. I had made no changes whatever in any configuration.
You mean it now works in Linux?
If someone can explain what made the difference, I will stop believing in poltergeists.
Did you power off? I'll made a wild guess. Or two. :-) Windows loaded a firmware to the card. When you reboot without powering off, it is still there and linux works. Or, windows changed a setting or something in the card that makes it works. It works in linux then because the setting holds. Lets see whats happens after a hard reset or power-off >:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAks94HEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XurwCfVQZE8byA0QbamXe9lT94ntEU QPoAnjPOi3d1jqVAkFRZtioc5Tytlw+G =Mfyn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
At 13:45:51 on Friday Friday 01 January 2010, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On Thursday, 2009-12-31 at 19:35 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I have a new router (D-Link DIR-615) and a new wireless card (Intel 5300agn) in my notebook machine, and was unable to establish communication between them. After several days of puzzlement, I began to entertain the notion that one or both were defective.
In an effort to establish which, I connected an external HD in place of that of the notebook machine, installed WinXP on it, and installed the wireless card's driver on it; the card worked properly, so it was no longer suspect.
I thought I would them have to devise a troubleshooting scheme for the router, but when I tried to use the wireless card to go online with my own router, it worked perfectly. I had made no changes whatever in any configuration.
You mean it now works in Linux?
It sees and communicates with everything here, i.e. Linux, printer, VoIP adapter.
If someone can explain what made the difference, I will stop believing in poltergeists.
Did you power off? I'll made a wild guess. Or two. :-)
It was powered off any number of times.
Windows loaded a firmware to the card. When you reboot without powering off, it is still there and linux works.
That has since occurred to me, in spite of which it may be the right answer. I know that some (all?) similar cards require firmware installation, but as far as I could learn or guess, the fact that the driver is in the kernel by default implied that the rpm would deal with that too, and I would not have to do so explicitly. If Windows does install the firmware along with the driver, it's fair to ask why Linux doesn't as well. I still do not see a place in oS at which I should or could have installed firmware by myself.
Or, windows changed a setting or something in the card that makes it works. It works in linux then because the setting holds.
Lets see whats happens after a hard reset or power-off >:-)
The Windows experiment took place in Haifa; I live 20km away. Setting the router up at home meant it had already survived a power down/up cycle. It has already lived through another all last night.
Cheers,
Hoping that all here have had their Sylvester "cheers", and recovered from the resulting hangover, A Healthy, Happy, Prosperous, and Peaceful 2010 to all.
Carlos E. R.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2010-01-01 at 14:16 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
At 13:45:51 on Friday Friday 01 January 2010, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
If someone can explain what made the difference, I will stop believing in poltergeists.
Did you power off? I'll made a wild guess. Or two. :-)
It was powered off any number of times.
Windows loaded a firmware to the card. When you reboot without powering off, it is still there and linux works.
That has since occurred to me, in spite of which it may be the right answer. I know that some (all?) similar cards require firmware installation, but as far as I could learn or guess, the fact that the driver is in the kernel by default implied that the rpm would deal with that too, and I would not have to do so explicitly. If Windows does install the firmware along with the driver, it's fair to ask why Linux doesn't as well. I still do not see a place in oS at which I should or could have installed firmware by myself.
I have no direct experience with wireless cards, but I suffered something similar with a haupage tv card that also requires a firmware upload every time. Yes, the driver was there, but not the firmware, which was on a different rpm. I had to hunt for it outside of the distro, something was propietary or some similar crap. Details are vague in my memory, but it should be in the list archive, if you are interested. In the end, I had to remove the card, and buy a real tv set, 2nd hand, that is hanging from the wall behind my computer, connected to a terrestrial digital tv tunner with usb hard disk running linux 2.4.something.
Or, windows changed a setting or something in the card that makes it works. It works in linux then because the setting holds.
Lets see whats happens after a hard reset or power-off >:-)
The Windows experiment took place in Haifa; I live 20km away. Setting the router up at home meant it had already survived a power down/up cycle. It has already lived through another all last night.
Ah, then, that is good :-)
Cheers,
Hoping that all here have had their Sylvester "cheers", and recovered from the resulting hangover, A Healthy, Happy, Prosperous, and Peaceful 2010 to all.
Thanks, same to you :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAks961gACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X/ggCdG+tGQmHcY5sZR1tmbD8UQril 3AsAnjeSniSUJgq7LZASX+E0+8K20d7r =6NK2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
At 14:32:17 on Friday Friday 01 January 2010, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On Friday, 2010-01-01 at 14:16 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
At 13:45:51 on Friday Friday 01 January 2010, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
If someone can explain what made the difference, I will stop believing in poltergeists.
Did you power off? I'll made a wild guess. Or two. :-)
It was powered off any number of times.
Windows loaded a firmware to the card. When you reboot without powering off, it is still there and linux works.
That has since occurred to me, in spite of which it may be the right answer. I know that some (all?) similar cards require firmware installation, but as far as I could learn or guess, the fact that the driver is in the kernel by default implied that the rpm would deal with that too, and I would not have to do so explicitly. If Windows does install the firmware along with the driver, it's fair to ask why Linux doesn't as well. I still do not see a place in oS at which I should or could have installed firmware by myself.
I have no direct experience with wireless cards, but I suffered something similar with a haupage tv card that also requires a firmware upload every time. Yes, the driver was there, but not the firmware, which was on a different rpm. I had to hunt for it outside of the distro, something was propietary or some similar crap. Details are vague in my memory, but it should be in the list archive, if you are interested. In the end, I had to remove the card, and buy a real tv set, 2nd hand, that is hanging from the wall behind my computer, connected to a terrestrial digital tv tunner with usb hard disk running linux 2.4.something.
Scary conclusion: "When in doubt, run it through Windows." =;-/8 I have been thinking of getting a Hauppauge card. Not to highjack the thread, I will take the liberty of asking you a couple of questions privately.
Or, windows changed a setting or something in the card that makes it works. It works in linux then because the setting holds.
Lets see whats happens after a hard reset or power-off >:-)
The Windows experiment took place in Haifa; I live 20km away. Setting the router up at home meant it had already survived a power down/up cycle. It has already lived through another all last night.
Ah, then, that is good :-)
Cheers,
Hoping that all here have had their Sylvester "cheers", and recovered from the resulting hangover, A Healthy, Happy, Prosperous, and Peaceful 2010 to all.
Thanks, same to you :-)
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2010-01-01 at 18:19 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
At 14:32:17 on Friday Friday 01 January 2010, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
I have no direct experience with wireless cards, but I suffered something similar with a haupage tv card that also requires a firmware upload every time. Yes, the driver was there, but not the firmware, which was on a different rpm. I had to hunt for it outside of the distro, something was propietary or some similar crap. Details are vague in my memory, but it should be in the list archive, if you are interested. In the end, I had to remove the card, and buy a real tv set, 2nd hand, that is hanging from the wall behind my computer, connected to a terrestrial digital tv tunner with usb hard disk running linux 2.4.something.
Scary conclusion: "When in doubt, run it through Windows." =;-/8
`:-) Which in my case I couldn't do, because the windows I have is Win-Me, and the least the software bundled with the card was XP.
I have been thinking of getting a Hauppauge card. Not to highjack the thread, I will take the liberty of asking you a couple of questions privately.
I think you can ask here, I changed the subject appropieately. Or start a new thread if you like; as long as it is Linux related, other people can chirp in. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAks+KJgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WeOQCcC6VRN3bmzL/xM7I+QYTWbF/t 41gAoI5vIfC5E5s40BCpALNWeW/dLLDx =aPIC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 17:53 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Friday, 2010-01-01 at 18:19 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
{snippage}
Scary conclusion: "When in doubt, run it through Windows." =;-/8
`:-)
Yes but it does on occasion make sense, as in when hardware just suddenly stops working across a few different installs, did it go bad or did an update nuke the hardware usability, which actually happened with my tv-tuner card, the remote stopped working under my Linux installs, but did still work under Windows. :(
Which in my case I couldn't do, because the windows I have is Win-Me, and the least the software bundled with the card was XP.
I have been thinking of getting a Hauppauge card. Not to highjack the thread, I will take the liberty of asking you a couple of questions privately.
I think you can ask here, I changed the subject appropieately. Or start a new thread if you like; as long as it is Linux related, other people can chirp in.
Hauppage PVR-150, under Myth-TV (0,21), Freevo now seems to be mature enough that it might run, but conflicts with the myth-tv backend so I have not been running it. I may do an install of 11.2, just to see if it now works. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stan Goodman さんは書きました:
I have a new router (D-Link DIR-615) and a new wireless card (Intel 5300agn) in my notebook machine, and was unable to establish communication between them. After several days of puzzlement, I began to entertain the notion that one or both were defective.
There are vendors that do not install firmware on the device before it goes out the door. They expect the user to run the installer app on windoze or mac that will write the firmware image to the device's flash memory if it's not there. If a device doesn't work with Linux out of the box, try installing it on a windoze or mac box and then try it on the Linux box. There may be firmware loaded but it's more likely to be some kind of production test junk requiring a completely different kind of driver. It would be interesting to whip up an installer in Linux that could also read whatever firmware is on the device. == jd If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can sure make something out of you. -- Muhammad Ali -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLQghAhpL3F+HeDrIRArvHAKCaWeKFIQ45AjEqcqr7AM4oqLOMCgCfe4XO VydW0W5oXE++e5S+ytvN6Vg= =oeEG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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