[opensuse] Huge mess with bootloader(s) - need help
Hi, based on what I see (in 10.3) it seems that opensuse's bootloader isn't a plain grub and doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst: if I modify entries in menu.lst I don't see the changes in the menu. How can I eradicate the package that shows suse's green menu and use exclusively grub? Or, alternatively, what files do I need to edit to configure the entries in the green menu? Finally, why so much mess? Wasn't it simpler just using grub? confusion ... confusion ... confusion ... It's the only thing that I really hate in a distribution that overall I like a lot. Thanks, Nico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I modified menu.lst and it does effect. 2008/5/14 Nico Sabbi <Nicola.Sabbi@poste.it>:
Hi, based on what I see (in 10.3) it seems that opensuse's bootloader isn't a plain grub and doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst: if I modify entries in menu.lst I don't see the changes in the menu.
How can I eradicate the package that shows suse's green menu and use exclusively grub? Or, alternatively, what files do I need to edit to configure the entries in the green menu?
Finally, why so much mess? Wasn't it simpler just using grub? confusion ... confusion ... confusion ... It's the only thing that I really hate in a distribution that overall I like a lot.
Thanks, Nico
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Nico Sabbi wrote:
Hi, based on what I see (in 10.3) it seems that opensuse's bootloader isn't a plain grub and doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst: if I modify entries in menu.lst I don't see the changes in the menu.
my guess is you don't change the good menu.lst file use yast an look at the real grub place... as you did setup at install time jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin Président du CULTe www.culte.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 14 May 2008, Nico Sabbi wrote:
based on what I see (in 10.3) it seems that opensuse's bootloader isn't a plain grub and doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst: if I modify entries in menu.lst I don't see the changes in the menu.
How can I eradicate the package that shows suse's green menu and use exclusively grub?
We use the normal grub. If your changes have no effect, you edited the wrong menu.lst. Steffen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 12:11:31 Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008, Nico Sabbi wrote:
based on what I see (in 10.3) it seems that opensuse's bootloader isn't a plain grub and doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst: if I modify entries in menu.lst I don't see the changes in the menu.
How can I eradicate the package that shows suse's green menu and use exclusively grub?
We use the normal grub. If your changes have no effect, you edited the wrong menu.lst.
Steffen
if it's the normal grub then why pressing 'e' on a boot entry doesn't permit me to edit the settings? Every key I press except the arrows and <enter> ends up in the "boot options" line at the bottom (as in the image attached)
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 11:24:19 Nico Sabbi wrote:
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 12:11:31 Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
We use the normal grub. If your changes have no effect, you edited the wrong menu.lst.
Steffen
if it's the normal grub then why pressing 'e' on a boot entry doesn't permit me to edit the settings? Every key I press except the arrows and <enter> ends up in the "boot options" line at the bottom (as in the image attached)
Try pressing escape and answering 'OK' to switch to text mode. Then you can edit the options. Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 12:27:06 Pete Connolly wrote:
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 11:24:19 Nico Sabbi wrote:
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 12:11:31 Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
We use the normal grub. If your changes have no effect, you edited the wrong menu.lst.
Steffen
if it's the normal grub then why pressing 'e' on a boot entry doesn't permit me to edit the settings? Every key I press except the arrows and <enter> ends up in the "boot options" line at the bottom (as in the image attached)
Try pressing escape and answering 'OK' to switch to text mode. Then you can edit the options.
Cheers
Pete
thanks, it works :) , but this means that it's not a "plain grub". Is it a patched grub or a package that I can remove and overwrite with good-old-plain-grub? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Nico Sabbi wrote:
thanks, it works :) , but this means that it's not a "plain grub". Is it a patched grub or a package that I can remove and overwrite with good-old-plain-grub?
if you need it, you should know dowload it from grub web site and compile it... however I always have seen grub work this way. jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin Président du CULTe www.culte.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 14 May 2008, Nico Sabbi wrote:
thanks, it works :) , but this means that it's not a "plain grub". Is it a patched grub or a package that I can remove and overwrite with good-old-plain-grub?
Sure. Or simply disable the graphics in menu.lst. Steffen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:36:04 +0200, Nico Sabbi wrote:
but this means that it's not a "plain grub". Is it a patched grub or a package that I can remove and overwrite with good-old-plain-grub?
The one main difference is the graphic boot screen. If you don't like that, simply disable it in menu.lst. In All other aspects it's a plain grub. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 23:54:33 Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:36:04 +0200, Nico Sabbi wrote:
but this means that it's not a "plain grub". Is it a patched grub or a package that I can remove and overwrite with good-old-plain-grub?
The one main difference is the graphic boot screen. If you don't like that, simply disable it in menu.lst. In All other aspects it's a plain grub.
Philipp
please, look at this: nico2:~ # grub-install -v -v -v --recheck /dev/sda3 GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ] grub> setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,5) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"... 15 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running "install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded Done. grub> setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,5) (hd0,5) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal) Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal) Running "install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst "... succeeded Done. grub> quit why is it installing the stages to /dev/sda6 instead of the /dev/sda3 that I specified?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 13:52:42 Nico Sabbi wrote:
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 23:54:33 Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:36:04 +0200, Nico Sabbi wrote:
but this means that it's not a "plain grub". Is it a patched grub or a package that I can remove and overwrite with good-old-plain-grub?
The one main difference is the graphic boot screen. If you don't like that, simply disable it in menu.lst. In All other aspects it's a plain grub.
Philipp
please, look at this:
nico2:~ # grub-install -v -v -v --recheck /dev/sda3
GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ] grub> setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,5) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"... 15 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running "install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded Done. grub> setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,5) (hd0,5) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal) Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal) Running "install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst "... succeeded Done. grub> quit
why is it installing the stages to /dev/sda6 instead of the /dev/sda3 that I specified??
You might find these links useful. The 1st one may be the most useful. The 2nd one will fill in the gaps if needed once you have the basics. http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/index.htm http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm This way you will be using grub. Looks to be the only way I will sort my mess out too. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 03:11:31 am Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008, Nico Sabbi wrote:
based on what I see (in 10.3) it seems that opensuse's bootloader isn't a plain grub and doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst: if I modify entries in menu.lst I don't see the changes in the menu.
How can I eradicate the package that shows suse's green menu and use exclusively grub?
We use the normal grub. If your changes have no effect, you edited the wrong menu.lst.
Steffen Or he edited grub as a user and when you save it nothing is changed. He must edit it as root or su.
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