[opensuse] password managers
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use. I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been. Thanks :) -- George Box: TW | Plasma 5 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 15.0 | Plasma 5 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 32GB Laptop #2: 15.0 | Plasma 5 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/04/2019 17.11, George from the tribe wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use.
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
I use a variant of KeePassX, called "keepassxc". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/28/19 12:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2019 17.11, George from the tribe wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use.
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
I use a variant of KeePassX, called "keepassxc".
-- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test))
Thanks everyone, that is great. I will look into what everyone suggested. Question - does keepassxc allow you to share across devices, so that you don't have to re-enter the password data on your phone as well as your computer? -- George Box: TW | Plasma 5 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 15.0 | Plasma 5 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 32GB Laptop #2: 15.0 | Plasma 5 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 29/04/2019 04.31, George from the tribe wrote:
On 4/28/19 12:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2019 17.11, George from the tribe wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use.
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
I use a variant of KeePassX, called "keepassxc".
Thanks everyone, that is great. I will look into what everyone suggested.
Question - does keepassxc allow you to share across devices, so that you don't have to re-enter the password data on your phone as well as your computer?
I copy the password file from one machine to another. I read somewhere that it can sync one to another, but this I have not tried. And looking now at their website, I do not see how. What they say is... no, I'll copy what they say: <https://keepassxc.org/docs/> Q: Why is there no cloud synchronization feature built into KeePassXC? A: Cloud synchronization with Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, ownCloud, Nextcloud etc. can be easily accomplished by simply storing your KeePassXC database inside your shared cloud folder and letting your desktop synchronization client do the rest. We prefer this approach, because it is simple, not tied to a specific cloud provider and keeps the complexity of our code low. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 29/04/2019 04.55, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I copy the password file from one machine to another. I read somewhere that it can sync one to another, but this I have not tried. And looking now at their website, I do not see how.
I found a partial answer. <https://www.reddit.com/r/KeePass/comments/83nby6/does_keepassxc_have_a_database_sync_function_like/> There is a merge command: For now you can use merge, from the GUI or command keepassxc-cli merge database1 database2 <https://www.reddit.com/r/KeePass/comments/aujw9l/how_can_i_sync_2_databases_in_keepassxc_like_in/> You'll need to wait for KeePassXC 2.4.0 (Soon™), the current version only merges databases oneway, 2.4.0 will introduce bidirectional sync. <https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/90> Support bidirectional sync with a different database file #90 ---- Hum! We are at version 2.4.1, so bidirectional sync should be available. But it is not. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dne pondělí 29. dubna 2019 4:55:06 CEST, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 29/04/2019 04.31, George from the tribe wrote:
On 4/28/19 12:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2019 17.11, George from the tribe wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use. I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
I use a variant of KeePassX, called "keepassxc".
Me too, it's very well done tool.
Question - does keepassxc allow you to share across devices, so that you don't have to re-enter the password data on your phone as well as your computer?
I copy the password file from one machine to another. I read somewhere that it can sync one to another, but this I have not tried. And looking now at their website, I do not see how. Q: Why is there no cloud synchronization feature built into KeePassXC? A: Cloud synchronization with Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, ownCloud, Nextcloud etc. can be easily accomplished by simply storing your KeePassXC database inside your shared cloud folder and letting your desktop synchronization client do the rest. We prefer this approach, because it is simple, not tied to a specific cloud provider and keeps the complexity of our code low.
Yep, that's it. The best is to use e.g. personal encrypted ownCloud to sync the password file across various devices. -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
On 29/04/2019 09.01, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne pondělí 29. dubna 2019 4:55:06 CEST, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Question - does keepassxc allow you to share across devices, so that you don't have to re-enter the password data on your phone as well as your computer?
I copy the password file from one machine to another. I read somewhere that it can sync one to another, but this I have not tried. And looking now at their website, I do not see how. Q: Why is there no cloud synchronization feature built into KeePassXC? A: Cloud synchronization with Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, ownCloud, Nextcloud etc. can be easily accomplished by simply storing your KeePassXC database inside your shared cloud folder and letting your desktop synchronization client do the rest. We prefer this approach, because it is simple, not tied to a specific cloud provider and keeps the complexity of our code low.
Yep, that's it. The best is to use e.g. personal encrypted ownCloud to sync the password file across various devices.
Yes, but my password file on my small laptop device developed differences because I travelled for a month. The problem is getting the differences back to the main copy. Apparently such functionality does not exist. Only "merge", and I have only seen it on the CLI client. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-04-29 09:01, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
On 4/28/19 12:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use a variant of KeePassX, called "keepassxc". Me too, it's very well done tool.
Same here. I'm happy with it. My setup is: kdbx-databases on dropbox (several db due to shared passwords (family, work etc.)) Keepassxc on laptops/desktops. For Android phones I use: Keepass2android Cheers, -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
George from the tribe <tech@reachthetribes.org> writes:
Question - does keepassxc allow you to share across devices, so that you don't have to re-enter the password data on your phone as well as your computer?
No, you will need to put your database in the cloud (e.g. dropbox, gdrive, etc): https://medium.com/@mshelton/keypass-for-beginners-dc8adfcdad54 This is the reason why I choose Pass[1]. With Pass everything is synced with git through ssh. Charles Footnotes: [1] https://www.passwordstore.org/
Am 28. April 2019 17:11:33 MESZ schrieb George from the tribe <tech@reachthetribes.org>:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use.
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
Thanks :)
Hi George, I'm using Bitwarden with various machines and phones. It's open source and works quite well. Especially the no frills auto-fill in the browser has convinced me compared to other solutions. You can even self host it, if you're capable and willing to. Regards, vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
George from the tribe <tech@reachthetribes.org> writes:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device?
I use pass[1]. There are many frontends for it, including an Android app and browser plugins. Everything is synced through git and does not involve the cloud. Footnotes: [1] https://www.passwordstore.org/
On 04/28/2019 10:11 AM, George from the tribe wrote:
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
Thanks :)
KeePassX - ~20 years, windows, Linux, iPhone - clean interface, never a lost pw. Enough said (though I stick with the 0.4.3 version) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2019 00.00, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/28/2019 10:11 AM, George from the tribe wrote:
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
Thanks :)
KeePassX - ~20 years, windows, Linux, iPhone - clean interface, never a lost pw. Enough said (though I stick with the 0.4.3 version)
Development got stuck on KeePass*, they did not accept new features, so developers created a branch or two. «The Electronic Frontier Foundation has recommended KeePassXC as "an example of a password manager that is open-source and free."» <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KeePassXC> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/30/2019 07:37 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Development got stuck on KeePass*, they did not accept new features, so developers created a branch or two.
«The Electronic Frontier Foundation has recommended KeePassXC as "an example of a password manager that is open-source and free."»
Loaded keepassxc, pulled in my keepassx 1 database, converted no problems. But for the same reason I never moved to KeePassX 2.X from 0.4.3, I just can't make myself like the interface where the tree disappears and the detail window takes the entire primary window instead of being a separate modless dialog. And I guess that's just the way I like it, because that is the way I would write the interface if it was my project. That way the remainder of the tree is visible and when updating the details of one, I still have access to the remaining info, if for instance I want to merge information from two keys, I can see both. Don't get me wrong, I like keepassxc with its Qt5 toolkit.... but I like KeePassX 0.4.3 with its Qt3 backend better ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 28/04/2019 16:11, George from the tribe wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has thoughts and experience in using password managers that are cross-platform and cross-device? I have 3 computers and an android phone, and mostly use google Chrome for a browser. The Chrome password manager has somehow completely messed up my entire password database so that nothing matches now. So I was thinking of looking at some other application to use.
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
I used to use 1Password on my macBook but was never impressed with it's non Linux application. So a friend recommended Bitwarden which I have been using for the last 6 months. No issues, easy to use. And largely free, Yo only pay for some of the advanced security login features. Has it's own TOTP also built in, which I don't use as I have Yubico keys Sean -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8alTjFdiqHf/9xvIdtqljnTz/qAFAlzLHuQACgkQdtqljnTz /qCcTQgAurWYn9WqnZeGoQd8cnWPki+RC+ZVa8wFf/03sWzomMinobtk/3eVX4od N/eYVGyMVJEKqnr+Usoqo828i2WFYGMfSaU1BFG6OXn+WQ7SmGDpwGmLRTYFPkWj Vg7JjcgiTcy9gvddM7kElAx4DvEr5jX15zUL9N4yi08WcynMjiniFir+6h86ixCw UGbcgiCwrLrvUtYv3/rAnSiOyc8p8YRBoVQsga+AdRaH9GrG+Y+QtZp59MJeFgCf u7YD4+0BAZcRIlwUZq94B7cAg6I/9DgP+GX9Airm5x3GhN8VV9C7+cryHLY3MauW zjAFEsz118v5ZweGPiCIHb4VcKvtKA== =I9BD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sun, 28 Apr 2019 10:11:33 -0500 schrieb George from the tribe <tech@reachthetribes.org>:
I read a little about LastPass, Universal Password Manager, Password Gorilla, KeePass, and KeePassX. All look ok, but I would be interested to know what other folks' experiences have been.
For anyone still looking for solutions, I stumbled across a recent test comparison by Linux Journal: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/password-manager-roundup Maybe that helps sorting out differences some more. Regards, vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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