This is a second and final plea for help! My video card is an NVidia FX5200 and the montitor is a 1024x768 15" TFT @75Hz. I have now spent over a week trying to sort out a severe video problem I have with SUSE10. With Brad's help, I thought that I had got round it, but it has gone again. After an installation, with the "nv" driver, the image does not fill the screen. There are wide black bands either side. Using sax to alter the dimensions and position, I can make the image fill the screen correctly - until after the next boot/restart, when sometimes it is still OK, but other times it has gone again. Following the installation of an NVidia driver (either using YaST or doing it manually), the image is well off centre, being shifted a long way to the left. Trying to centre it with sax is very hit and miss. When it looks correct in sax, it's not correct when I exit sax. After much fiddling around with the sax "change size/move screen" positioning, I can get it centred on the screen. However, the next time I boot, restart, or even just end session, it's usually well off centre again. I have tried several drivers, 7676, 7667, 7167. But all are the same. I know that 7167 works with my set-up, as it is the one SUSE9.3 uses and I have had no problems with that version. Nor have I had any problems after installing an NVidia driver in other distros I have tried. They've just worked. Following Brad's advice, I have tried putting Option "IgnoreEDID" "true" in the xorg.conf file, but that makes no difference. I have checked many times that the monitor settings are correct in sax. I have tried the monitor's specific driver as found in the installation, I have also tried running the monitor with the generic LCD and VESA drivers at various settings. All give the same results. This has not been mentioned in the list, so I must be the only one who is having this problem. Please, can someone give me some ideas to try? At the moment, my boxed version 10 is unuseable. I don't want to throw it away (having just paid £40 for it!) and go back to 9.3. Many thanks Keith
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 10:26 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
This is a second and final plea for help!
My video card is an NVidia FX5200 and the montitor is a 1024x768 15" TFT @75Hz.
I have now spent over a week trying to sort out a severe video problem I have with SUSE10. With Brad's help, I thought that I had got round it, but it has gone again.
After an installation, with the "nv" driver, the image does not fill the screen. There are wide black bands either side. Using sax to alter the dimensions and position, I can make the image fill the screen correctly - until after the next boot/restart, when sometimes it is still OK, but other times it has gone again.
Following the installation of an NVidia driver (either using YaST or doing it manually), the image is well off centre, being shifted a long way to the left. Trying to centre it with sax is very hit and miss. When it looks correct in sax, it's not correct when I exit sax. After much fiddling around with the sax "change size/move screen" positioning, I can get it centred on the screen. However, the next time I boot, restart, or even just end session, it's usually well off centre again.
Have you tried using the centering buttons on the monitor itself? Center using sax and then use the monitors buttons after exiting sax. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
My video card is an NVidia FX5200 and the montitor is a 1024x768 15" TFT @75Hz.
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Have you tried using the centering buttons on the monitor itself? Center using sax and then use the monitors buttons after exiting sax.
I'm thinking the exact same thing. I have that same nVidia video card and a 15" TFT, and using SUSE 10.0 and it's working perfect using the nVidia binary drivers from the YOU download. Every once in a while my monitor looses it's "home" when I turn it on... and the display is shifted far to the left. I just press the Auto button on the monitor and a few seconds later the monitor sorts itself out and displays correctly. With a TFT, I've never had to adjust the placement using SAX. C.
On Friday 28 Oct 2005 12:57 pm, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 10:26 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
My video card is an NVidia FX5200 and the montitor is a 1024x768 15" TFT @75Hz.
After an installation, with the "nv" driver, the image does not fill the screen. There are wide black bands either side. Using sax to alter the dimensions and position, I can make the image fill the screen correctly - until after the next boot/restart, when sometimes it is still OK, but other times it has gone again.
Following the installation of an NVidia driver (either using YaST or doing it manually), the image is well off centre, being shifted a long way to the left. Trying to centre it with sax is very hit and miss. When it looks correct in sax, it's not correct when I exit sax. After much fiddling around with the sax "change size/move screen" positioning, I can get it centred on the screen. However, the next time I boot, restart, or even just end session, it's usually well off centre again.
Have you tried using the centering buttons on the monitor itself? Center using sax and then use the monitors buttons after exiting sax.
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Ken and Clayton. Thank you both for your prompt replies. The reasons I have not suspected the monitor are: I have four hard drives on plug-in trays, as I don't like multiple booting and like to keep things separate. One drive has "that other operating system" on, but I rarely plug it in. Another hard drive has SUSE9.3 on and the third has PCLOS on. All these have no problems with the screen being off-set. They are correct every time I plug them in. The fourth hard drive is my "experimenting" one and it is on this I have reinstalled SUSE10 very many times. During my attempts to get 10 working, I have also installed 9.3 and Mandriva on this drive, just for checking. Again, no problems whatever with either. I am reluctant to alter the monitor's settings with its buttons, in case it messes the other distros up. Also, I have the situation where the image is correct in sax, but not when I exit sax. Before I do alter the monitor's centring with its buttons, I really would appreciate further comments on this problem, either from your selves or others. Thanks again for your help. Cheers Keith
I am reluctant to alter the monitor's settings with its buttons, in case it messes the other distros up. Also, I have the situation where the image is correct in sax, but not when I exit sax.
Before I do alter the monitor's centring with its buttons, I really would appreciate further comments on this problem, either from your selves or others.
I've found that when switching between distros or even versions of the video driver, and/or switching between Linux and Windows that my display shifts far to the left... as in 1/3rd or more of the display is off the left side of the screen. This has only happened to me on a TFT, not a CRT. It happens while going from Linux rebooting to Windows, and vice versa. It doesn't happen every time... just sometimes. It also happens sometimes after I turn off the TFT overnight, and turn it on again in the morning... no reboot or change in OS. I've always just chalked it up to an idiosyncrasy of TFTs, or the particular low end 15" TFT (Acer) that I am using at home. It might be worth noting that it never happens with my dual Samsung TFTs at work (using SUSE 10.0 where I work). I don't know your specific situation regarding your monitor, but I've never been afraid to press the AUTO button on my TFT :-) It usually centres everything quite nicely within about 10 seconds. I don't find it necessary to adjust brightness or any of the other settings on any of the TFTs I use.. the Auto setting seem to set it about right for me. It is messes anything up for any other OS I boot, I just press AUTO again, and 10 seconds later all is right with the world again. I can't think of any other issue that would be causing the problems you've described - then again, I'm no expert. The nVidia FX5200 video card has always worked very well for me with SUSE (much better than the ATI9660 I'm burdened with on my work computer). C.
Solved!! I have done yet another fresh installation of sUSE10 and installed the NVidia driver using YOU. Again the image was off-centre so, following Clayton's and Ken's advice, I pressed the "Automatic set-up" button on the monitor. That solved it, and it hasn't affected the distros on the other hard drives. Never thought it could be the monitor which was causing it! Many thanks to all who have offered advice. I will thoroughly read your replies to learn a bit more about video and its problems. Now to put SUSE10 on my main hard drive and start using it. Cheers and thanks again Keith
On Friday 28 October 2005 08:35, Keith Powell wrote: <snip>
I am reluctant to alter the monitor's settings with its buttons, in case it messes the other distros up. Also, I have the situation where the image is correct in sax, but not when I exit sax.
Before I do alter the monitor's centring with its buttons, I really would appreciate further comments on this problem, either from your selves or others.
Hi Keith, I don't know the age or design of your monitor, but my NEC CRT seems to "remember" my customized adjustments for each mode (defined by unique horizontal, vertical and color bit-depth settings.) I'm constantly switching between OSs and display modes, too. My presets are 1600x1200, 1400x1050, 1280x1024, 1024x768 and 800x600. They are all fine-tuned using the built-in monitor controls. In particular, the 1280x1024 mode under Linux is accomplished differently than it is under M$, so when I adjust it on the one side, the other remains unaffected. This is not the case where the modes are accomplished using the same parameters. hth & regards, - Carl
hi,
My video card is an NVidia FX5200 and the montitor is a 1024x768 15" TFT @75Hz.
What monitor selection did you choose in sax2? Did you try selecting a standard LCD the manufacturer and model (correct or closest model?) was chosen by default?
After an installation, with the "nv" driver, the image does not fill the screen. There are wide black bands either side. Using sax to alter the dimensions and position, I can make the image fill the screen correctly - until after the next boot/restart, when sometimes it is still OK, but other times it has gone again.
Try commenting out (with a #) UseModes in Section "Monitor" of the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". After doing this you'll need to restart X ([CTRL] [ALT] [BACKSPACE]). If the problem does not re-occur then try a few reboots.
Following the installation of an NVidia driver (either using YaST or doing it manually), the image is well off centre, being shifted a long way to the left. Trying to centre it with sax is very hit and miss. When it looks correct in sax, it's not correct when I exit sax. After much fiddling around with the sax "change size/move screen" positioning, I can get it centred on the screen. However, the next time I boot, restart, or even just end session, it's usually well off centre again.
Is the problem only occurring when switching between operating systems? I noticed at least some older LCDs had problems when switching resolutions and had to be booted with a framebuffer value equal to the preferred resolution.. On the other hand, framebuffer can cause some problems with nvidia graphics cards. Check the output of "cat /proc/cmdline" for the boot options used. One of them may be vga=xxxxx (for example, vga=0x317 for 1024x768 or vga=normal to completely disable framebuffer). These values are set in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. -- /Paul "It's not about the ending, it's about the journey." - Lex Luthor
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