Re: [opensuse] Ugly names for disks
On 11/04/13 12:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/04/13 01:10, Basil Chupin wrote: But your response did make me aware of what his original post was all about which is that he is talking about 12.2 where he has the USB showing in fstab. From *my* perspective the only reason why you would you would have a USB device listed in fstab is if it is always switched ON when the computer is booted. If he connects the USB when he really needs it then removing it from fstab would make it mount in /media which is what always happens in 12.2 (as I just proved).
<shampoo, snip and blow dry>
As I stated in another list, <sarcastic mode engaged> there is nothing like consistency between distros. And it's even better when it occurs within the same distro. <sarcastic mode disengaged>
The OP didn't mention that he was using Gnome. And I never used it except as an experiment many many years ago.
So it is interesting to learn what you just mentioned. Another "gotcha" to clear when someone asks a question: ask them if they are using KDE or Gnome.
This particular 12.2 machine is running xfce, so I assume it would be following GNOME's udisks rules by default? The forum post I linked to (https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/483...) explains my own use case and motives for wanting this arrangement. The external drive spends 90% of its time attached to the xfce box, and I want the files on it accessible to other users from a consistent location (i.e. not one with <username> in the path) as if it's a permanent storage location, and with control over the permissions. When I plug it into other machines, however, it's principally for my copying files and backing up and it's not so important that it be in the fstab as I'm the only one using it. The various responses so far still don't leave me clear what the 'proper' fix for this should be. I don't know if the suggestions offered are to be considered as 'workarounds' or the way I'm expected to do things forever more. I say this because the way it worked until a few weeks ago was the way it's been for a long time and it suited me fine and made sense. The forum posters advised me that this has occurred before, years ago, it was registered as a bug and fixed, and that fstab prefs should never be overridden, as though that's a fundamental principal. So I don't know if I should be expecting that this gets 'fixed', the bug report attended to and everything returned to how it was before, or I'm supposed to adapt to a new (if less satisfactory) solution? And is this an openSUSE way of doing things or a universal change that's occurring across Linux distros? (not having a dig, appreciate the help, just confused) Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Peter <gumb@linuxmail.org> wrote:
On 11/04/13 12:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/04/13 01:10, Basil Chupin wrote: But your response did make me aware of what his original post was all about which is that he is talking about 12.2 where he has the USB showing in fstab. From *my* perspective the only reason why you would you would have a USB device listed in fstab is if it is always
switched ON when the computer is booted. If he connects the USB when
he really needs it then removing it from fstab would make it mount in /media which is what always happens in 12.2 (as I just proved).
<shampoo, snip and blow dry>
As I stated in another list, <sarcastic mode engaged> there is nothing like consistency between distros. And it's even better when it occurs within the same distro. <sarcastic mode disengaged>
The OP didn't mention that he was using Gnome. And I never used it except as an experiment many many years ago.
So it is interesting to learn what you just mentioned. Another "gotcha" to clear when someone asks a question: ask them if they are using KDE or Gnome.
This particular 12.2 machine is running xfce, so I assume it would be following GNOME's udisks rules by default?
The forum post I linked to (https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/483...)
explains my own use case and motives for wanting this arrangement. The external drive spends 90% of its time attached to the xfce box, and I want the files on it accessible to other users from a consistent location (i.e. not one with <username> in the path) as if it's a permanent storage location, and with control over the permissions. When
I plug it into other machines, however, it's principally for my copying
files and backing up and it's not so important that it be in the fstab as I'm the only one using it.
The various responses so far still don't leave me clear what the 'proper' fix for this should be. I don't know if the suggestions offered are to be considered as 'workarounds' or the way I'm expected to do things forever more.
I say this because the way it worked until a few weeks ago was the way it's been for a long time and it suited me fine and made sense. The forum posters advised me that this has occurred before, years ago, it was registered as a bug and fixed, and that fstab prefs should never be
overridden, as though that's a fundamental principal. So I don't know if I should be expecting that this gets 'fixed', the bug report attended to and everything returned to how it was before, or I'm supposed to adapt to a new (if less satisfactory) solution? And is this an openSUSE way of doing things or a universal change that's occurring across Linux distros?
(not having a dig, appreciate the help, just confused)
Cheers, Peter
Peter, There are 2 issues you are apparently hitting: - fstab is being ignored - udisks2 defaults to /run/media/<user> The fstab issue is a bug and hopefully your bugzilla will be addressed. The new udisks2 default is a feature. The rules file that was recommended is a permanent change and will likely impact all distros. The ability to create the new shared rule is new, as in post 12.3 gold release from just a month ago. Distros like opensuse that have been shipping udisks2 for a while will be reluctant to ship that new rule automatically, so you will likely see the same default mount point of /run/... on numerious distros. Hth Greg -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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