How must different is SuSE from Redhat?
Ok, heres the problem. I am going to SANS Fire next month, and they strongly recommend Redhat 8.0 or less for a common model during the course. I went out and got Redhat 9.0, figured close enuf, but I really hate it. For one thing I cant get my PCMCIA NIC to load. So, I am planning on reloading SuSE 8.1 but wondering if that cud cause me problems. I did run into one problem with SuSE 8.1 and Yahoo messesgner. Instructions from teh Yahoo site, I d/l the rpm, but had to do a syslnk to a crytpo file to get it to work. No problem, but they did give me advice, I might not get that support as SANS. Shud I try and make Redhat work with my NIC, or chance SuSE? I am far more comfortable with SuSE, I know where things are, no need to hunt as with Redhat. I think any problems I might run into are slight, and problably do better with a distro I know. I have to learn Win2000, enuf new crap to worry about.... -- Best Regards, Bruce "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 23 June 2003 15:54, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
Ok, heres the problem. I am going to SANS Fire next month, and they strongly recommend Redhat 8.0 or less for a common model during the course. I went out and got Redhat 9.0, figured close enuf, but I really hate it. For one thing I cant get my PCMCIA NIC to load. So, I am planning on reloading SuSE 8.1 but wondering if that cud cause me problems.
I did run into one problem with SuSE 8.1 and Yahoo messesgner. Instructions from teh Yahoo site, I d/l the rpm, but had to do a syslnk to a crytpo file to get it to work. No problem, but they did give me advice, I might not get that support as SANS.
Shud I try and make Redhat work with my NIC, or chance SuSE? I am far more comfortable with SuSE, I know where things are, no need to hunt as with Redhat. I think any problems I might run into are slight, and problably do better with a distro I know. I have to learn Win2000, enuf new crap to worry about....
-- Best Regards, Bruce
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
Well Bruce, given that you are going to a "higher" level course ----- i.e. a computer security training course. You should be more than efficient utilizing your distribution for the purposes needed while performing the neccessary hands-on training needed at a SANS training course. No offense bud, but if you can't even get a card to work; how can you truly expect to keep abreast of the topic knowledge needed to successfully complete the course????!!! :( You may want to put off going until you get more acquainted with the operating systems and their functions; prior to diving in at this level. Of course, this is dependent on what track(s) your are there to take. As long as you are able to get the neccessary binaries compiled and are able to utilize them correctly; it shouldn't matter what distribution that you use. This may be a little awkward for the GCUX course though. Being that SuSE deviates from RH on placement of some libs and binaries. What track are you taking? Is it the GSEC? I am not able to go to the full-fledged training course myself ----- but am studying for the GCIA on my own time, and intend to take the "challenge" cert. I've got my 4 training books, and I can pretty much determine what the experience level is needed to get by in at least the GCIA. - -- Thomas Jones Linux-Howtos Network Administrator OpenGPG Key: 0x6A3DF6E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+93XAQT2komo99ukRAghZAKCOSKSDlshVJdENLcIWsn5iKQ03NwCgkkYO jg8qlj3ZSPgNheqgLpZR6tE= =pORZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Monday 23 June 2003 10:48 pm, Thomas Jones wrote:
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On Monday 23 June 2003 15:54, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
Ok, heres the problem. I am going to SANS Fire next month, and they strongly recommend Redhat 8.0 or less for a common model during the course. I went out and got Redhat 9.0, figured close enuf, but I really hate it. For one thing I cant get my PCMCIA NIC to load. So, I am planning on reloading SuSE 8.1 but wondering if that cud cause me problems.
I did run into one problem with SuSE 8.1 and Yahoo messesgner. Instructions from teh Yahoo site, I d/l the rpm, but had to do a syslnk to a crytpo file to get it to work. No problem, but they did give me advice, I might not get that support as SANS.
Shud I try and make Redhat work with my NIC, or chance SuSE? I am far more comfortable with SuSE, I know where things are, no need to hunt as with Redhat. I think any problems I might run into are slight, and problably do better with a distro I know. I have to learn Win2000, enuf new crap to worry about....
-- Best Regards, Bruce
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
Well Bruce, given that you are going to a "higher" level course ----- i.e. a computer security training course. You should be more than efficient utilizing your distribution for the purposes needed while performing the neccessary hands-on training needed at a SANS training course.
No offense bud, but if you can't even get a card to work; how can you truly expect to keep abreast of the topic knowledge needed to successfully complete the course????!!! :( You may want to put off going until you get more acquainted with the operating systems and their functions; prior to diving in at this level.
Of course, this is dependent on what track(s) your are there to take. As long as you are able to get the neccessary binaries compiled and are able to utilize them correctly; it shouldn't matter what distribution that you use. This may be a little awkward for the GCUX course though. Being that SuSE deviates from RH on placement of some libs and binaries.
'Differs', surely, rather than 'deviates'?
What track are you taking? Is it the GSEC?
I am not able to go to the full-fledged training course myself ----- but am studying for the GCIA on my own time, and intend to take the "challenge" cert. I've got my 4 training books, and I can pretty much determine what the experience level is needed to get by in at least the GCIA.
- -- Thomas Jones Linux-Howtos Network Administrator OpenGPG Key: 0x6A3DF6E9
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Well Bruce, given that you are going to a "higher" level course ----- i.e. a computer security training course. You should be more than efficient utilizing your distribution for the purposes needed while performing the neccessary hands-on training needed at a SANS training course.
No offense bud, but if you can't even get a card to work; how can you truly expect to keep abreast of the topic knowledge needed to successfully complete the course????!!! :( You may want to put off going until you get more acquainted with the operating systems and their functions; prior to diving in at this level.
No offense taken. The issues is not so much getting the NIC to work, that will happen, but I am not real familar with RH, and finding where everything is to get things done is taking time. I am afraid there could be more problems down the road since I dont know RH well. I know I can get SuSE up and running faster and easier since I know it. I was just doing a sanity check to see I my train of thought was on track. TIA -- Best Regards, Bruce "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 June 2003 05:32, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
Well Bruce, given that you are going to a "higher" level course ----- i.e. a computer security training course. You should be more than efficient utilizing your distribution for the purposes needed while performing the neccessary hands-on training needed at a SANS training course.
No offense bud, but if you can't even get a card to work; how can you truly expect to keep abreast of the topic knowledge needed to successfully complete the course????!!! :( You may want to put off going until you get more acquainted with the operating systems and their functions; prior to diving in at this level.
No offense taken. The issues is not so much getting the NIC to work, that will happen, but I am not real familar with RH, and finding where everything is to get things done is taking time. I am afraid there could be more problems down the road since I dont know RH well. I know I can get SuSE up and running faster and easier since I know it.
I was just doing a sanity check to see I my train of thought was on track.
Well..... you can always email a SANS mentor and ask their take on it. That should help you a bit. If nothing else, you may be able to just email SANS at the registration address; and verify through them that it will be acceptable to utilize SuSE. They should have issued you an identification number upon getting the financial end taken care of. HTH.
TIA
-- Best Regards, Bruce
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 June 2003 03:44, Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Monday 23 June 2003 10:48 pm, Thomas Jones wrote:
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On Monday 23 June 2003 15:54, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
Ok, heres the problem. I am going to SANS Fire next month, and they strongly recommend Redhat 8.0 or less for a common model during the course. I went out and got Redhat 9.0, figured close enuf, but I really hate it. For one thing I cant get my PCMCIA NIC to load. So, I am planning on reloading SuSE 8.1 but wondering if that cud cause me problems.
I did run into one problem with SuSE 8.1 and Yahoo messesgner. Instructions from teh Yahoo site, I d/l the rpm, but had to do a syslnk to a crytpo file to get it to work. No problem, but they did give me advice, I might not get that support as SANS.
Shud I try and make Redhat work with my NIC, or chance SuSE? I am far more comfortable with SuSE, I know where things are, no need to hunt as with Redhat. I think any problems I might run into are slight, and problably do better with a distro I know. I have to learn Win2000, enuf new crap to worry about....
-- Best Regards, Bruce
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
Well Bruce, given that you are going to a "higher" level course ----- i.e. a computer security training course. You should be more than efficient utilizing your distribution for the purposes needed while performing the neccessary hands-on training needed at a SANS training course.
No offense bud, but if you can't even get a card to work; how can you truly expect to keep abreast of the topic knowledge needed to successfully complete the course????!!! :( You may want to put off going until you get more acquainted with the operating systems and their functions; prior to diving in at this level.
Of course, this is dependent on what track(s) your are there to take. As long as you are able to get the neccessary binaries compiled and are able to utilize them correctly; it shouldn't matter what distribution that you use. This may be a little awkward for the GCUX course though. Being that SuSE deviates from RH on placement of some libs and binaries.
'Differs', surely, rather than 'deviates'?
I used "deviates" to coincide with the topic at hand. SANS utilizes the Redhat distribution because it is more prevalent in the industry than any other distribution. As in devaition from the norm. Statistics, i guess.
What track are you taking? Is it the GSEC?
I am not able to go to the full-fledged training course myself ----- but am studying for the GCIA on my own time, and intend to take the "challenge" cert. I've got my 4 training books, and I can pretty much determine what the experience level is needed to get by in at least the GCIA.
- -- Thomas Jones Linux-Howtos Network Administrator OpenGPG Key: 0x6A3DF6E9
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