[opensuse] login screen changed after tumbleweed dup
Hi, since about 2-3 month, after a tumbleweed dup on my desktop computers (5 identical) (now on actual tumbleweed 20181122) the kde-xorg (ssdm?) - login screen has changed. graphic is opensurce drivers, card is amd (radeon pro wx 4100) it was exactly the same update, on a laptop with nvidia graphic card, (and opensurce driver) the kde-xorg login screen has not changed. a other different is, the laptop normally has only one screen attached, the desktop always 2 screens. and the laptop was about one year before updated from opensuse 13.1 (or so) to tumbleweed, the desktops has been installed one year before clean tumbleweed. - but both have made a lot of "zypper dup" before this happends. the "normal" and now only on laptop login screen i have here: http://susepaste.org/2005638 and the "new" "unwanted" loginscreen on desktop i have here: http://susepaste.org/94134292 i was always hoping it will change again back to normal, but up to now no. i checked in kde: systemsettings / loginscreen and laptop and desktop show both "breeze for opensuse" -> and this looks like it should, but as mentioned, it is on desktop not like this. so maybe there is a fallback to the unwanted login screen? how to found the problem to get the "normal" login screen back? simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, i found a different at my systems: /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager desktop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="sddm" laptop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" but still the question, why did both computers show systemsettings/start-end (loginscreen) "sddm" and the same (sample) screen. and if somehow it changed in tumbleweed from kdm to sddm, why it has not changed on laptop, and why it look in the systemsettings like it should, telling me it is sddm but did not show like this when booting the desktop? simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
desktop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="sddm" laptop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
I tried at the moment to change sddm to kdm made a reboot, but still the design is the same (unwanted) so this seems not be the reason. / did not help simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi,
i found a different at my systems:
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
desktop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="sddm" laptop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
but still the question, why did both computers show systemsettings/start-end (loginscreen)
"sddm" and the same (sample) screen.
and if somehow it changed in tumbleweed from kdm to sddm, why it has not changed on laptop, and why it look in the systemsettings like it should, telling me it is sddm but did not show like this when booting the desktop?
simoN I do not really understand if your laptop and you PC both run TW. Generally speaking: unless you have specific needs for compatiblity, the kdm loginscreen is deprecated and has been substituted by sddm. By compatiblity if, in a former system, you had kdm, or you did set kdm in yast esplicitly, it may be (also for updates with zypper dup from Leap15 to TW) that you did stay on kdm. The difference you encounter should be given AFAIR to an update or bugfix for
In data sabato 24 novembre 2018 17:05:21 CET, Simon Becherer ha scritto: the sddm screen. It is nothing else, but a branding to TW. By my experience, chances are good that these things "come and go" because they are subject to changes (branding). from the page: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/84668/how-to-change-kde-login-back... Changing the login's screen aka SDDM background is almost as easy (Menu -> Computer -> System Settings -> Workspace -> Startup and Shutdown -> Login screen (SDDM) -> Background). Hope that helps. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Ihre E-Mail-Postf�cher sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi,
I do not really understand if your laptop and you PC both run TW. both have tumbleweed
Changing the login's screen aka SDDM background is almost as easy (Menu -> Computer -> System Settings -> Workspace -> Startup and Shutdown -> Login screen (SDDM) -> Background).
i do not care about the background, i only wondering that in that settings both computers are set so the same BUT are NOT the same (telling sddm) i care about the boxes to login and the other functionality's they are different. could you tell which one is (sddm or kdm, or something else?) http://susepaste.org/2005638 http://susepaste.org/94134292 simoN -- www.becherer.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zaterdag 24 november 2018 17:05:21 CET schreef Simon Becherer:
Hi,
i found a different at my systems:
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
desktop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="sddm" laptop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
but still the question, why did both computers show systemsettings/start-end (loginscreen)
"sddm" and the same (sample) screen.
and if somehow it changed in tumbleweed from kdm to sddm, why it has not changed on laptop, and why it look in the systemsettings like it should, telling me it is sddm but did not show like this when booting the desktop?
simoN Needs to be changed using update-alternatives --config displaymanager instead of /etc/sysconfig
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Hi,
Needs to be changed using update-alternatives --config displaymanager instead of /etc/sysconfig i tried this at the desktops (where it was changed after update)
update-alternatives --config displaymanager update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for displaymanager did i have misunderstand you, and i should be changed for the laptop (who has the login screen as i like it to the unliked (changed) screen? (laptop at the moment not available, so at the moment i am not able to test.) what picture i posted, is the "normal" loginscreen at the moment for tumbleweed? this http://susepaste.org/2005638 or this http://susepaste.org/94134292 simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, 27 November 2018 10:37:07 GMT Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi,
Needs to be changed using update-alternatives --config displaymanager instead of /etc/sysconfig i tried this at the desktops (where it was changed after update)
update-alternatives --config displaymanager update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for displaymanager
try it via GUI in yast/miscellaneous/alternatives - if you have it installed.
did i have misunderstand you, and i should be changed for the laptop (who has the login screen as i like it to the unliked (changed) screen?
(laptop at the moment not available, so at the moment i am not able to test.)
what picture i posted, is the "normal" loginscreen at the moment for tumbleweed? this http://susepaste.org/2005638 or this http://susepaste.org/94134292
simoN
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On 24/11/2018 17.05, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi,
i found a different at my systems:
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
desktop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="sddm" laptop has here DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
That method is deprecated, changes there would do nothing. <https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html> Seek this section: 5.2 Use update-alternatives to Set Login Manager and Desktop Session YaST has an optional module to check/change alternatives. I have not verified this currently, but in the past changing the display manager while one was running was problematic: on restart of the service, it would try to close the new one, while the old one was running, not the new one, and then try to start the new one, conflicting with the old one still running. The trick, back then, was to do the change on runlevel 3. Or to reboot. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Hi,
YaST has an optional module to check/change alternatives. at desktop i see in yast:
default-displaymanager /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm auto if i go to change i see 3 more: ....console 5 ....lightdm 35 ....ssdm 25 ....xdm 10 so, if i understand it correct, the design of the loginscreen (not speaking from background picture) will be changed if i change to a nother displaymanager. and the prority is what would be automatically set? then the http://susepaste.org/94134292 is lightdm?????? and this is now tumbleweed standard? (i have not manually changed to this) and on older installations (updated from other opensusesystems) it will stay on other things? (laptop not available at the moment, so i could not check there) simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
In data martedì 27 novembre 2018 11:51:34 CET, Simon Becherer ha scritto:
Hi,
YaST has an optional module to check/change alternatives.
at desktop i see in yast:
default-displaymanager /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm auto
if i go to change i see 3 more: ....console 5 ....lightdm 35 ....ssdm 25 ....xdm 10
so, if i understand it correct, the design of the loginscreen (not speaking from background picture) will be changed if i change to a nother displaymanager. and the prority is what would be automatically set?
then the http://susepaste.org/94134292 is lightdm??????
and this is now tumbleweed standard? (i have not manually changed to this) and on older installations (updated from other opensusesystems) it will stay on other things? (laptop not available at the moment, so i could not check there)
simoN AFAIK, when you did set kdm and kdm is not available, then you get lightdm as some have experienced problems when sddm supersedes to kdm. But I am not sure of this. My loginscreen is as follows in TW when set to sddm normally (which is the default for me since I installed TW: https://susepaste.org/2005638 So this is how it should look like by default.
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Hi,
AFAIK, when you did set kdm and kdm is not available, then you get lightdm as
mh, i have never set anything special for login for my tumbleweed it WAS also for me the normal loginscreen up to one of the zypper dup updates
some have experienced problems when sddm supersedes to kdm. But I am not sure of this. My loginscreen is as follows in TW when set to sddm normally (which is the default for me since I installed TW: https://susepaste.org/2005638 So this is how it should look like by default.
will try so set explicit sddm simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 27/11/2018 à 12:14, Simon Becherer a écrit :
Hi,
AFAIK, when you did set kdm and kdm is not available, then you get lightdm as
mh, i have never set anything special for login for my tumbleweed it WAS also for me the normal loginscreen up to one of the zypper dup updates
me think one of the updates failed partially :-( jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi,
me think one of the updates failed partially :-(
sure not, i updated 5 pc's, on all all the same. (all hard + software + zypper-dup) identical) only the laptop did not change loginscreen (different hard and different insatllation) simoN -- B e c h e r e r GmbH Sondermaschinenbau Mauermatten Strasse 22 79183 Waldkirch Germany Tel.: (+49) (0)7681 3134 Fax: (+49) (0)7681 4378 Mail: info@becherer.de Web: www.becherer.de USt-ID-Nr.: DE 814912198 Registergericht: Freiburg HRB 701860 Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. (FH), EWE Simon H. Becherer Gerichtsstand / Sitz: Waldkirch Es gelten ausschließlich unsere allgemeinen Liefer- und Zahlungsbedingungen / Einkaufsbedingungen: www.becherer.de/AGB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 27/11/2018 à 17:32, Simon Becherer a écrit :
Hi,
me think one of the updates failed partially :-(
sure not, i updated 5 pc's, on all all the same. (all hard + software + zypper-dup) identical)
only the laptop did not change loginscreen (different hard and different insatllation)
simoN
of course I mean failed only on the problematic computer, not everywhere! I already got some such problem (unfinished update) with random results jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ok, i am able to change inside the yast module "alternatives" from "auto" to manual to get sddm-loginscreen back. is here anybody who knows what a clean tw install with kde and xorg normally should have? is this sddm or lightdm? and how is the priority? my yast-alternatives-modul shows: dbus-launch /usr/bin/dbus-launch.x11 auto default-displaymanager /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm auto default-xsession.desktop /usr/share/plasma5.desktop auto easy_install /usr/bin/easy_install-3.6 auto gtk-update-iconm-cache /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0 auto kdesu /usr/lib64/libexec/kf5/kdesu auto libblas.so.3 /usr/lib64/blas/libblas.so.3 auto liblapack.so.3 /usr/lib64/lapack/liblapack.so.3 auto mt /usr/bin/smt auto rmt /usr/bin/srmt auto and if i try to edit "displaymanager", it shows me: select priority /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/console 5 /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm 35 /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/ssdm 25 /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/xdm 10 for me it looks like if set to auto (i never touched before) it will select lightdm because of priority (i also never touched priority) is lightdm the (new) tw standard for kde and xorg because of an update who has changed priority?? simoN -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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